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seeric 12-16-2005 04:29 PM

100


i miss woj.

After Shock Media 12-16-2005 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internext-Renee
When attendees register online there is a field marked with a handicap sign that reads 'If you are disabled and require special services please provide the details in the space provided'. All attendees with special needs or requests are encouraged to fill in this area and show management will take care of them. If there is any technical difficulty with the form or anyone has questions - please contact me directly at
renee at avn.com
Additionally, if anyone has issues on show-site please ask for me at the registration area.

And walla taken care of for the future.
Now Renee please make sure this remains a policy and those that answer emails at AVN know this, specially for on site registration (reasons above in the thread).

Anal Hobbit 12-16-2005 04:41 PM

I hope the rules change and people pushing wheelchairs get in free.

That way I can add it to one of my tips in getting people in free to Internext.

See sig.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-16-2005 04:42 PM

Make that a lesson for all shows for that matter.

AVN was the first to put Handicap fields and informaiton on there registration pages and have been doing so for years appearently while no other has.

I think someone had an agenda here.

NaughtyAce 12-16-2005 04:45 PM

Man, I only go through the first page, but Jim way to step it up man.
That was very considerate of you, wish I had seen it sooner.

Farley 12-16-2005 04:46 PM

Contact Me!
 
If anyone has any questions or concerns regarding anything AVN, AVN Online or Internext, PLEASE feel free to contact me directly. I will be happy to answer all questions and save everyone a lot of time.
Thanks,
Farley

[email protected]
AIM= AVNFarley
818-718-5788

jonesy 12-16-2005 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
I Am Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo Looking Forward To

Phoenix Forum

And

Costa Rica

And Webmaster Access L.a.

I Will Do Hollywood Internext Next Year Though.

same here ...

GonZo 12-16-2005 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I do not understand how ya folks would expect AVN to know who is Handicapped and who is not, with exception of LF.

But hell bring out the torches to make sure they are guilty regardless?
On the form it does have a Handicapped box and reads:

"If you are disabled and require special services, please provide the details here."

Was that ever explored AfterShock?
Go through the ticket registration and see it.

http://www.internext-expo.com/attendees/index.shtml

... and you wonder why other designers are busy as fuck yet you are scrambling for work.

After Shock Media 12-16-2005 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Make that a lesson for all shows for that matter.

AVN was the first to put Handicap fields and informaiton on there registration pages and have been doing so for years appearently while no other has.

I think someone had an agenda here.

I just had started to like you again and then you go and do this.
Now please point out the agenda. I made the initial post in a contest thread about why I deserved one as per the contest rules. Baddog had issue with it and decided to make the thread questioning AVN.

So I am guessing the Agenda would of been that braincash decided to assist in making AVN look bad by giving away 25 passes they bought, then it was my turn to post why I deserved one that would bring in some pity and hate from some gfy readers, and thus baddog stepped up and quoted what I wrote in a new thread asking AVN, and thus several of us wheelchair bound people would all go in together to attempt to give AVN a black eye publically. Knowing full well they did have an options box on their site.
Then of course we need to make sure several people would offer up passes so that they could look good to everyone else and assist in the thread growing.

TinaBallina 12-16-2005 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Hustler
Sly and After Shock Media

If you would like a pass for your needed people Hustler would be happy to take care of you please send me names [email protected]

we will provide you both with one pass...

and i know you are not looking for this....we have a very profound understanding of your situation

You Rock!

seeric 12-16-2005 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNFarley
If anyone has any questions or concerns regarding anything AVN, AVN Online or Internext, PLEASE feel free to contact me directly. I will be happy to answer all questions and save everyone a lot of time.
Thanks,
Farley

[email protected]
AIM= AVNFarley
818-718-5788



thats what i do.

RING RING

"yo, farley, this is dj airek"

"yo man, whats up"

"hey farley, can i get extra hot chicks to walk me around the convention?"

"for you man, you got it!"

"yo, thanks farley! you're on it man!'

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


in all seriousness, farley has always gone out of his way for me and i thank him for that. for someone at the highest level to contact an individual advertiser to make experiences turn out right is appreciated.

i wish i was going to internext, i'm just not gonna pay abhorent expenses because of the supply and demand in vegas that week. 600+ dollars a day for a hotel room that i will only see for 2 hours a day, not likely.

next year i hope that something can be done to not have this show during the circus that is CES. please listen to us farley, i'm pretty upset that i can't go.

:thumbsup

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-16-2005 05:04 PM

Well, appearently AVN has had that field form box on there registration process for some time, several years infact.

Thats alot more effort than any other trade show or event.
I understand alot of webmasters are hating on AVN these days. I really do, and I understand some of the reasons.

AVN been around so long they are becomming the Christ on the cross.

Not even I have been one of AVN's biggest supporters in the past, infact I was one of thier first critics and was bashed for it hand over fist. But times are different now with a whole new set of agenda's and angles from many in the biz.

I can see that they put in the effort and do there part for the business in news, articles writings and publishings for many of our industry and the video side. I have come to recognise the emense responsibility they have.

I am just slow on the matter, maybe not informed but I do know that as of late they have been very generous to me behind the scenes, I have had alot of dialog with some of there folks as of late. They work just like we do and seldomly get everything perfect.

Regarding the Handicap issue, they are the only ones I have seen that even put in an effort above any other gathering or industry event.

On a larger scale many companies relie on AVN for the publishing of video companies and industry news. They sit in a precarious position that is easy to attack and it could not be easier to describe than to say it like it is.

"You can not please everyone."
And being a long poster here on GFY, that is the truth.

You can not please everyone thats the bottom line, ya always will have your haters.
Thats just the way it is.


Aftershock this thread proved the haters and the local bandwagon as of late that has found that XBIZ is the "New Angel" for our information and news. I say hardly would that be the case, all industries need trade publications and news and I would urge webmasters to realise that before drawing a line in black and white in the sand.

QuaWee 12-16-2005 05:06 PM

well now thats fucked up

C H R I S 12-16-2005 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Well, appearently AVN has had that field form box on there registration process for some time, several years infact.

Thats alot more effort than any other trade show or event.
I understand alot of webmasters are hating on AVN these days. I really do, and I understand some of the reasons.

AVN been around so long they are becomming the Christ on the cross.

Not even I have been one of AVN's biggest supporters in the past, infact I was one of thier first critics and was bashed for it hand over fist. But times are different now with a whole new set of agenda's and angles from many in the biz.

I can see that they put in the effort and do there part for the business in news, articles writings and publishings for many of our industry and the video side. I have come to recognise the emense responsibility they have.

I am just slow on the matter, maybe not informed but I do know that as of late they have been very generous to me behind the scenes, I have had alot of dialog with some of there folks as of late. They work just like we do and seldomly get everything perfect.

Regarding the Handicap issue, they are the only ones I have seen that even put in an effort above any other gathering or industry event.

On a larger scale many companies relie on AVN for the publishing of video companies and industry news. They sit in a precarious position that is easy to attack and it could not be easier to describe than to say it like it is.

"You can not please everyone."
And being a long poster here on GFY, that is the truth.

You can not please everyone thats the bottom line, ya always will have your haters.
Thats just the way it is.


Aftershock this thread proved the haters and the local bandwagon as of late that has found that XBIZ is the "New Angel" for our information and news. I say hardly would that be the case, all industries need trade publications and news and I would urge webmasters to realise that before drawing a line in black and white in the sand.

Nicely said Alien.

Marshal 12-16-2005 05:09 PM

veeeery long thread... :D

baddog 12-16-2005 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
I think someone had an agenda here.


Would you mind explaining what you mean by that?

After Shock Media 12-16-2005 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Aftershock this thread proved the haters and the local bandwagon as of late that has found that XBIZ is the "New Angel" for our information and news. I say hardly would that be the case, all industries need trade publications and news and I would urge webmasters to realise that before drawing a line in black and white in the sand.

I am one of those that still preferes AVN Online to Xbiz.
Then like I said I did not want AVN to get much flak on this issue. AVN as a trade show has plenty of its own issues that are more pressing. I still love the AVN show in Vegas and it still is my primary show. I know there can always be problems and situations. Emails get lost, wrong answers get pushed out, and so on. There is a lot of stuff that goes into a show and I understood this from the get go.

baddog 12-16-2005 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
. . . . but I do know that as of late they have been very generous to me behind the scenes


Don't even need to read any further to understand why you don't see a problem with them charging attendants.

baddog 12-16-2005 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ
Aftershock this thread proved the haters and the local bandwagon as of late that has found that XBIZ is the "New Angel" for our information and news. I say hardly would that be the case, all industries need trade publications and news and I would urge webmasters to realise that before drawing a line in black and white in the sand.


WTF are you talking about?

Sly 12-16-2005 05:17 PM

ASM I think you would get more out of Phoenix than Vegas for future reference. It would be easier for you to get around and meet people. Probably cheaper, too.

seeric 12-16-2005 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
ASM I think you would get more out of Phoenix than Vegas for future reference. It would be easier for you to get around and meet people. Probably cheaper, too.

yeah that hotel is definitely wheelchair friendly. i remember that. even had a lift to the tennis courts from the pool deck.

After Shock Media 12-16-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
ASM I think you would get more out of Phoenix than Vegas for future reference. It would be easier for you to get around and meet people. Probably cheaper, too.

I plan on trying to attend more shows this year.
Everything just must fall into the correct places. Sometimes shit just happens that prevents everything.

Sly 12-16-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
yeah that hotel is definitely wheelchair friendly. i remember that. even had a lift to the tennis courts from the pool deck.

Are you shitting me? We couldn't find one so just went up the stairs, haha. You should see security freak when I do things my way.

Oh, I think they choose a different location every year, but 2004 was fine too.

TheWylders 12-16-2005 05:25 PM

I personaly didn't see this as an attack on AVN, and I will be the first to tell you this isn't isolated to AVN whatsoever. I've got no problems with AVN, but I credit baddog for pointing out an issue that was brought up in an effort to get some free tickets in a contest. I applaud AVN for stepping up to the plate and taking notice and offering to make sure these issues wouldn't be a concern in the future. Believe me, things like this get lost in the shuffle all the time because it isn't seen as big of an issue as it really is. Unfortunately it takes people hearing things like this and realizing the problems that exist before it's noticed. The disabled community is a very small one, especially in the adult industry and it's nice to see people take notice of some of the small things that can really be big problems for some of us.

seeric 12-16-2005 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly
Are you shitting me? We couldn't find one so just went up the stairs, haha. You should see security freak when I do things my way.

Oh, I think they choose a different location every year, but 2004 was fine too.

really? i thought there wasnt a lift right next to those stairs. i must have been seeing things. i remember the elevator going form the courtyard to the pool level. maybe i was too drunk on jaeger.

my bad. well, no matter, i will personally volunteer to help get you guys up there. :thumbsup

from what i hear its at the same place this year.

MJ_AVN 12-16-2005 05:31 PM

Hey, problems with AVN, Internext, women, making rent or anything else, I am always available. In fact, I rarely leave the office for that very reason.
MJ McMahon - 277753354 on your FM dial.

baddog 12-16-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheWylders
I personaly didn't see this as an attack on AVN, and I will be the first to tell you this isn't isolated to AVN whatsoever. I've got no problems with AVN, but I credit baddog for pointing out an issue that was brought up in an effort to get some free tickets in a contest. I applaud AVN for stepping up to the plate and taking notice and offering to make sure these issues wouldn't be a concern in the future. Believe me, things like this get lost in the shuffle all the time because it isn't seen as big of an issue as it really is. Unfortunately it takes people hearing things like this and realizing the problems that exist before it's noticed. The disabled community is a very small one, especially in the adult industry and it's nice to see people take notice of some of the small things that can really be big problems for some of us.


Contrary to the insinuations of some, the only agenda was to rectify what I (and apparently others) felt was a wrong.

TinaBallina 12-16-2005 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
thats what i do.

RING RING

"yo, farley, this is dj airek"

"yo man, whats up"

"hey farley, can i get extra hot chicks to walk me around the convention?"

"for you man, you got it!"

"yo, thanks farley! you're on it man!'

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


in all seriousness, farley has always gone out of his way for me and i thank him for that. for someone at the highest level to contact an individual advertiser to make experiences turn out right is appreciated.

i wish i was going to internext, i'm just not gonna pay abhorent expenses because of the supply and demand in vegas that week. 600+ dollars a day for a hotel room that i will only see for 2 hours a day, not likely.

next year i hope that something can be done to not have this show during the circus that is CES. please listen to us farley, i'm pretty upset that i can't go.


:thumbsup

You are so right babe, Farley Far does go above and beyond and that is why we love him so........he is professional and just a sweetheart inside and out.

hugs,
tina

Farley 12-16-2005 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K
thats what i do.

RING RING

"yo, farley, this is dj airek"

"yo man, whats up"

"hey farley, can i get extra hot chicks to walk me around the convention?"

"for you man, you got it!"

"yo, thanks farley! you're on it man!'

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


in all seriousness, farley has always gone out of his way for me and i thank him for that. for someone at the highest level to contact an individual advertiser to make experiences turn out right is appreciated.

i wish i was going to internext, i'm just not gonna pay abhorent expenses because of the supply and demand in vegas that week. 600+ dollars a day for a hotel room that i will only see for 2 hours a day, not likely.

next year i hope that something can be done to not have this show during the circus that is CES. please listen to us farley, i'm pretty upset that i can't go.

:thumbsup

Thanks A1R3K-
I just had a great conversation with Jim from Hustler. We cleared up the fact that in all the years of all the shows no one has ever had a problem with hadicapped access. In addition, he was supportive and helpful in giving me the attendee's info. so that I could be sure he would be taken care. Thanks for being a real gentleman Jim.
Again, if anyone has any concerns or problems, please contact me personally.
Thanks

[email protected]
AIM= AVNFarley
818-718-5788

tranza 12-16-2005 06:29 PM

that's definitely not cool

Mr. Jim 12-16-2005 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVNFarley
Thanks A1R3K-
I just had a great conversation with Jim from Hustler. We cleared up the fact that in all the years of all the shows no one has ever had a problem with hadicapped access. In addition, he was supportive and helpful in giving me the attendee's info. so that I could be sure he would be taken care. Thanks for being a real gentleman Jim.
Again, if anyone has any concerns or problems, please contact me personally.
Thanks

[email protected]
AIM= AVNFarley
818-718-5788

My pleasure Farley...I have known this crew (AVN)for a very long time...Farley is hands on if you bring it to his attention he will roll up his sleeves and make it happen...as he has just done

Some personal biz was aired out... that can be uncomfortable I am sure your badge is handled with AVN based on my conversation with Farley (always the stand up guy I might add)

Nothing to see here folks keep it moving....

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-16-2005 06:49 PM

Leave it to Jim. You are one Class Act Guy. Thank you Jim on behalf of our Industry.
Kudos to everyone that stepped up.

baddog 12-16-2005 06:51 PM

Mission: Accomplished.

All is well that ends well.

Mr. Jim 12-16-2005 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave
Leave it to Jim. You are one Class Act Guy. Thank you Jim on behalf of our Industry.
Kudos to everyone that stepped up.

Thanks bro Until next time Up Up and away.... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/20...superman,0.jpg

TreasureBucks 12-16-2005 08:40 PM

Wait a second,

Content/promo girls get into the show floor free now???

I remember Roger V bringing this issue up awhile ago.

From the first post in this thread "Baddog" said promo girls get in free???

Is this true??

Fletch XXX 12-16-2005 08:41 PM

where all the generous when its needed?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=553202

Redrob 12-16-2005 09:14 PM

I like the AVN and AVN-Online crews. I have every AVN going back to '82 or so.

I find them to be excellent references for movie and legal matters. Mark Kernes is a great investigative reporter with a wonderful sense of wit and Clyde De Witts legal advice has kept us all out of trouble at one time or another. The rental and sales charts are used like Bibles by many companies.

AVN has also been very generous in its support of FSC and other special projects.

Thank you, Paul, thank you. :thumbsup

baddog 12-16-2005 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreasureBucks
From the first post in this thread "Baddog" said promo girls get in free???


I challenge you to show me where I said that.

Marshal 12-16-2005 09:27 PM

bump for the answer... ;)

TreasureBucks 12-16-2005 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I challenge you to show me where I said that.





In your first thread you posted....


Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
I am saddened that you guys would do that. Special passes for "content" but charge full price for an attendant that is obviously needed?

Give me a break.


.....I am curiuos about these "special passes for content"

baddog 12-16-2005 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreasureBucks
In your first thread you posted....





.....I am curiuos about these "special passes for content"


and you said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreasureBucks
Wait a second,

Content/promo girls get into the show floor free now???

I remember Roger V bringing this issue up awhile ago.

From the first post in this thread "Baddog" said promo girls get in free???

Is this true??

Where did I use the word free?

CamRabbit 12-16-2005 09:45 PM

Quote:

Of course AVN could give a rats ass about this so I must still get a badge for someone that will just be helping me out and pushing me. This is almost like them charging a blind guy for an extra ticket for his seeing eye dog.
It nice of you to compare your attendant to a dog :1orglaugh

davethetruth 12-16-2005 09:48 PM

I guess this got resolved, I still see this thread going another 2 pages tho lol.

TreasureBucks 12-16-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog
and you said:



Where did I use the word free?

I was waiting for you say that.

Correction, you did not say "free"

Do you care to comment on these special passes for content? It would be interesting to hear some more info on that.

V_RocKs 12-16-2005 11:31 PM

Damn... that just blows...


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