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V_RocKs · 12-14-2005, 11:09 AM

WOJ!!!!!!! This...

Nifield · 12-14-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

Calm down a bit Reilly, everybody was treated quite fair in this thread, so there's no need to start some mud-wrestling just because you want to sell a copy of DS. You know quite well that's not true

I'm not trying to start any mud wrestling dude, this was one of the main reasons i originally decided to create DS, because i used to use AS and was sick and tired of it being a guessing game whether a submit went through to certain sites. It would say it went through, even though sometimes it wouldnt.

hjnet · 12-14-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nifield

I'm not trying to start any mud wrestling dude, this was one of the main reasons i originally decided to create DS, because i used to use AS and was sick and tired of it being a guessing game whether a submit went through to certain sites. It would say it went through, even though sometimes it wouldnt.

That must have been in 2003 then, don't you think AS has improved a bit since then?

Nifield · 12-14-2005, 12:04 PM

actually someone just a few months ago had told me this was still the case.. shrug

kenny · 12-14-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hjnet

tool, and it's the only one that can handle linklists to.

This isn't true

Harmon · 12-14-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

5 sales per day per gallery with their dbase untouched by you?

BS.

Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

Dirty F · 12-14-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

Aight, cant wait to see it

Dirty F · 12-14-2005, 12:22 PM

Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated.

My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.

Harmon · 12-14-2005, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Aight, cant wait to see it

woo hoo!

sfera · 12-14-2005, 12:27 PM

damnit where was this 3 years ago !!

Nifield · 12-14-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated.

My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.

well, basicly functions that allow you to customize what sites get and what sites dont get and maximize the profit and traffic from all of it. Also dreamsubmitters error checking is second to none. But like i said, id rather just do a 1 on 1 walkthrough with you, and show you as we go so you can see for yourself.

Dirty F · 12-14-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nifield

well, basicly functions that allow you to customize what sites get and what sites dont get and maximize the profit and traffic from all of it. Also dreamsubmitters error checking is second to none. But like i said, id rather just do a 1 on 1 walkthrough with you, and show you as we go so you can see for yourself.

Keep in mind that im totally not bashing your product. Its an awesome product. Im just saying it might be a bit over the top where its not needed. But still i can recommend it to people who want TOTAL SUPER UBER control over everything in detail. Personally i dont really see the point since most stuff can be done without.

And once again your customer support is so good i feel bad not using your product

Tapaz · 12-14-2005, 12:48 PM

we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?

shuki · 12-14-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapaz

we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?

That is a cool idea.

Tapaz · 12-14-2005, 02:57 PM

yeah a comparation would be huge

Jarmusch · 12-14-2005, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

I wouldn't do that if I were you. You seem to have your gallery building technique down, post them here and watch them get stolen by lazy fucktards.

BTW, I believe 5 sales a day are very possible with the stock CS database. There's no such thing as shitty traffic if you know what you're doing.

Ace_luffy · 12-14-2005, 06:17 PM

Dream Submitter... the best

Basic_man · 12-14-2005, 06:21 PM

Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D

Doctor Dre · 12-14-2005, 06:45 PM

Nifield you almost got me sold ... I might try this now

JD · 12-14-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D

I'd like to hear why also

Babagirls · 12-14-2005, 09:37 PM

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER TUTORIAL

Marshal · 12-14-2005, 10:02 PM

I'm familiar with Chameleon, though those two has increased features... ;)

hjnet · 12-15-2005, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

Now I'd like to see that too, Frank said 5 Sales per submitted gallery, and of course full sales where a CC is used (either Trials or monthly memberships), not some email sales etc.
With an unedited stock CS database, without partner accounts or any paid spots/PAs, and without the unusual usage of traffic from sites you or some of your friends own (maybe they own a 1M TGP and give you top spots just for this competiton).

So considering a month has 20 workdays, that should be easily 100 sales if you just submit 1 per day, or 200 if you submit 2 per day, etc.

I say that's impossible with CS stock Database, most CS users that contact me are happy if they make 10 sales per month.

And to make sure that you're not wasting your time, I'm willing to pay you $100 if you'd prove me wrong, and I'm sure some others would do the same

hjnet · 12-15-2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D

As I said, in the end it's just a matter of personal preferences, AS and CS exist since 3.5 years, and DS since 2 years, and all of them are under constant development. So they're all good in what they've specialized on.

We could also discuss about "the best car", "the hottest babe", etc.

Violetta · 12-15-2005, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER TUTORIAL

that one needs an update!

Nifield · 12-15-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Keep in mind that im totally not bashing your product. Its an awesome product. Im just saying it might be a bit over the top where its not needed. But still i can recommend it to people who want TOTAL SUPER UBER control over everything in detail. Personally i dont really see the point since most stuff can be done without.

And once again your customer support is so good i feel bad not using your product

Thanks Franck, I appreciate those comments. We are on the verge of releasing version 2.0 which will win you over i believe

Nifield · 12-15-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Nifield you almost got me sold ... I might try this now

Hi me up and I'll hook you up with a free subscription and teach you how to use the software. What more could you ask for

Nifield · 12-15-2005, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D

If you're using advanced submitter, try dream and you will be absolutely amazed.

shuki · 12-15-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nifield

Hi me up and I'll hook you up with a free subscription and teach you how to use the software. What more could you ask for

Is this offer available for everyone? I am willing to pay and am more after the tutorial than the free ride.

Tapaz · 12-15-2005, 07:06 PM

some one have to made 5 sales STILL

dissipate · 12-15-2005, 07:21 PM

Reilly gave me the walk through of dream submitter today, it was very helpfull. After seeing all the advanced features... many of which i'll admit CS has, i'm sold on dream submitter. It's template parsing is going to make my life 20 times easier without having to go through and hand edit html all day when i can update things with the click of a button. I'll be the first to admit the learning curve of DS is higher, its probly going to take me a few fucked-up submissions to get things tweaked to the way i need them, but I think im going to get butter results with a well maintained database. Submitting to the default database MGP's is just a good way to burn through 10GB a day in bandwith.

Just my

Marshal · 12-15-2005, 08:08 PM

i've got 30 day trial with Dream Submitter, but i was not able to manage it... it is great, yet t too confusing! can someone make it more simple?

Nifield · 12-16-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shuki

Is this offer available for everyone? I am willing to pay and am more after the tutorial than the free ride.

Yes this offer is open to anyone and everyone. Please hit me up in icq or email if interested:

icq9635421
reilly at dreamsubmitter dot com

Nifield · 12-16-2005, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

i've got 30 day trial with Dream Submitter, but i was not able to manage it... it is great, yet t too confusing! can someone make it more simple?

Please hit me up for a 1 on 1 walkthrough of the program, i can take you step by step through the program to teach you how to use it for free!

Mighty Chin · 12-16-2005, 11:01 AM

There ya go Reilly!

Truly DS is amazing and I don't even tap into all of its features and I'm impressed.

Dirty F · 03-08-2006, 01:12 PM

Good thread!

volante · 03-08-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal?

It's now three months later - what happened with this?

da man · 03-08-2006, 05:08 PM

Franck, thanks for great reading and being objective.

Dirty F · 03-08-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by da man

Franck, thanks for great reading and being objective.

dissipate · 03-08-2006, 05:32 PM

I'm curious to see if harmon really tried to pull 5 sales a day with CS's default database. I'll have to admit that at first I agreed with Franck's original post in this thread - but then i took the time to learn DS and now I honestly can't see myself using anything else and getting the same results. It's still 90% about your databsae, which DS gives you a reason to keep clean and current, but the other 10% to me is customizing pages for certain TGP's and thier requirements. DS just keeps adding in new and better features every day and it's far and ahead better than anything else i've ever used.

SomeCreep · 03-08-2006, 05:41 PM

Interesting review. Thanks for the info.

Nifield · 03-09-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dissipate

I'm curious to see if harmon really tried to pull 5 sales a day with CS's default database. I'll have to admit that at first I agreed with Franck's original post in this thread - but then i took the time to learn DS and now I honestly can't see myself using anything else and getting the same results. It's still 90% about your databsae, which DS gives you a reason to keep clean and current, but the other 10% to me is customizing pages for certain TGP's and thier requirements. DS just keeps adding in new and better features every day and it's far and ahead better than anything else i've ever used.

Thanks for the kind words, we at DS try our best to come out with the most innovative ideas to keep submitters on the cutting edge with great features and technology!

tornell · 03-09-2006, 02:26 PM

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated. My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.

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Tapaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CamCity Posts: 1,745	we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?

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Tapaz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CamCity Posts: 1,745	yeah a comparation would be huge

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dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	Reilly gave me the walk through of dream submitter today, it was very helpfull. After seeing all the advanced features... many of which i'll admit CS has, i'm sold on dream submitter. It's template parsing is going to make my life 20 times easier without having to go through and hand edit html all day when i can update things with the click of a button. I'll be the first to admit the learning curve of DS is higher, its probly going to take me a few fucked-up submissions to get things tweaked to the way i need them, but I think im going to get butter results with a well maintained database. Submitting to the default database MGP's is just a good way to burn through 10GB a day in bandwith. Just my Last edited by dissipate; 12-15-2005 at 07:22 PM..

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dissipate The Dirty Frenchman Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 8,904	I'm curious to see if harmon really tried to pull 5 sales a day with CS's default database. I'll have to admit that at first I agreed with Franck's original post in this thread - but then i took the time to learn DS and now I honestly can't see myself using anything else and getting the same results. It's still 90% about your databsae, which DS gives you a reason to keep clean and current, but the other 10% to me is customizing pages for certain TGP's and thier requirements. DS just keeps adding in new and better features every day and it's far and ahead better than anything else i've ever used.

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