Nice read! I have tried them all, and my conclusion is that it is harder to make money now with submitting than it was one year ago. There are too many gallerysubmitters now, and too few good tgp's that dont require $ for galleryspots

Adding epass is on my list of things to do, we also take paypal and wire or you can send us a check in snail mail.

you say free, yet if i were to use one of the sponsors you dont list on your site how much would it cost me per submission?

I find this pretty funny. DS is not complicated at all and I'm pretty much legally retarted. I figured it out pretty quickly and If I ever had an issue I would just hit Nifield or Tom up and they would show me the way.

Just wait until 2.0 it will blow you away.

i call bullshit. you start someone off with no partner accounts and chameleon database and they wont get anywhere near that. You wont get anywhere near that with any submitter right off the bat.

And this is why dreamsubmitter is more accurate, this will not happen with DS, it is the most accurate submit software on the market. (i've heard of the same problem happening with advanced submitter)

Yes

this wasn't a matter of not being listed, it's just that the url never went through the submit page correctly

I dont think DS is so complicate to use, at least fopr the basis. I didnt tried all functions yet, but it works fine for me and i learned how to use it from the first day. They have good people helping out by icq. About data base... yes, if someone give you a data base is good, but these days with all the shit of partners accounts you need to update you data base by yourseld. I started with the DB that they gave me and i modiffied to my neededs and i submit my galleries to lots of sites with no problems and much faster than before use it. So i think is a good idea get dream submitter if you are goiong to do galleries

Calm down a bit Reilly, everybody was treated quite fair in this thread, so there's no need to start some mud-wrestling just because you want to sell a copy of DS. You know quite well that's not true :)

I like em both and for the same reasons as the thread starter.

WOJ!!!!!!! This...

I'm not trying to start any mud wrestling dude, this was one of the main reasons i originally decided to create DS, because i used to use AS and was sick and tired of it being a guessing game whether a submit went through to certain sites. It would say it went through, even though sometimes it wouldnt.

That must have been in 2003 then, don't you think AS has improved a bit since then?

actually someone just a few months ago had told me this was still the case.. shrug

This isn't true

Hey, I'm totally not trying to troll your thread man, but 5 sales is definitely possible with the stock database (unless something has changed within the last 2 motnhs or so from when I last used it... I let my subsciption expire due to current projects).

I am going to go ahead and order me up a one month subby to CS and show you what I mean. I will post the galleries submitted along with the stats. Just give me through the weekend and let me get my ducks in a row and make time for this. Should actually be fun... no partner accounts will be used... just the stock database... deal? :)

Aight, cant wait to see it :)

Ok ok, Dreamsubmitter isnt THAT hard to understand. Just compared to CS it is way more complicated.

My question to Nifield. All those options you dont want to talk about here. What exactly are they good for. I can do basically anything i need to submit using CS. I mean its not rocket science. You can only manage lists and submit to tgps in a few ways. I mean exactly how much tools do you need for that. CS does it all and i honestly dont have a clue what else i need.

woo hoo! :thumbsup

damnit where was this 3 years ago !!

well, basicly functions that allow you to customize what sites get and what sites dont get and maximize the profit and traffic from all of it. Also dreamsubmitters error checking is second to none. But like i said, id rather just do a 1 on 1 walkthrough with you, and show you as we go so you can see for yourself.

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Keep in mind that im totally not bashing your product. Its an awesome product. Im just saying it might be a bit over the top where its not needed. But still i can recommend it to people who want TOTAL SUPER UBER control over everything in detail. Personally i dont really see the point since most stuff can be done without.

And once again your customer support is so good i feel bad not using your product :)

we should really have some pratict example here SLURP! Like a gallery submision and related results only with original database.. some one can do it?

That is a cool idea.

yeah a comparation would be huge

I wouldn't do that if I were you. You seem to have your gallery building technique down, post them here and watch them get stolen by lazy fucktards.

BTW, I believe 5 sales a day are very possible with the stock CS database. There's no such thing as shitty traffic if you know what you're doing.

Dream Submitter... the best

Why not use Advanced Submitter? :D

Nifield you almost got me sold ... I might try this now

:thumbsup I'd like to hear why also

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER TUTORIAL


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I'm familiar with Chameleon, though those two has increased features... ;)

Now I'd like to see that too, Frank said 5 Sales per submitted gallery, and of course full sales where a CC is used (either Trials or monthly memberships), not some email sales etc.
With an unedited stock CS database, without partner accounts or any paid spots/PAs, and without the unusual usage of traffic from sites you or some of your friends own (maybe they own a 1M TGP and give you top spots just for this competiton).

So considering a month has 20 workdays, that should be easily 100 sales if you just submit 1 per day, or 200 if you submit 2 per day, etc.



I say that's impossible with CS stock Database, most CS users that contact me are happy if they make 10 sales per month.

And to make sure that you're not wasting your time, I'm willing to pay you $100 if you'd prove me wrong, and I'm sure some others would do the same :pimp

As I said, in the end it's just a matter of personal preferences, AS and CS exist since 3.5 years, and DS since 2 years, and all of them are under constant development. So they're all good in what they've specialized on.

We could also discuss about "the best car", "the hottest babe", etc.

that one needs an update!

Thanks Franck, I appreciate those comments. We are on the verge of releasing version 2.0 which will win you over i believe :)

Hi me up and I'll hook you up with a free subscription and teach you how to use the software. What more could you ask for :)

If you're using advanced submitter, try dream and you will be absolutely amazed.

Is this offer available for everyone? I am willing to pay and am more after the tutorial than the free ride.

some one have to made 5 sales STILL