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"OMG Hustler is really tanking or so and so is totally doing better than Hustler, Hustler is this Hustler is that...... Hustler has never been doing better....Hustler is throwing a party in Vegas....Hustler will have its best year in 2006 to date. Do I think it is becuae we throw parties... no not at all...do I think we benefit from the parties we throw...sure to an extent... I think it can be a solid move for a young company looking to reach the next level from a marketing position but I do think that sponsoring the same gigs year in and year out can be a waste of time and will eventually make your brand invisible... RonC does this well by only throwing things here and there... |
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I am good sport about things and know when people have earned it. You have earned it all the way. Which is why I love doing biz with ya:) So any time yer rdy :thumbsup |
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another Great example with RonC he still gives back and trust me he doesnt need anything :) |
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Mark can you design box covers???
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throwing parties or having a board presence does not qualify as "giving back". some of the best sponsors do neither of these things and i hope they never do. they need to spend their money on their content.
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Someone posted on the weekend about an 80% recurring payout and I almost fell off my chair laughing.
If you believe anything over 70% you are an idiot. We offer 70% and it's very close after costs, almost not worth it. LOL |
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Hit me up. No one is buying shit as they scramble for Internext and Chrismas. |
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They're too busy making people money to worry about stupid board games and silly iPod contests. |
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Roger, you rock but long contest threads on GFY are not giving back. $50 days get people to try your program but if it does not convert, no one keeps the links up for long. |
Oh, and actually, David from PG posts here quite often and offers a plethora of knowledge on a regular basis. I'd much rather have his knowledge than a few free drinks at a loud party where I can't hear myself think. I should be buying him the drinks, rather.
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Shit this might be my last thread LOL I'm already doing fine I guess I like to do contest to help the little guys out if I can. trust me I dont get anyhting out of it
but from what I'm reading I'm done doing it now |
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if I dont I will pay you double what they would have made you I call BS |
Nah, Roger I think Contests and stuff are cool.
It is a part of branding and when ya get a gift from someone and they use that gift, they remember ya. It is important people remember since they change sponsors go to another sponsor and maybe come back etc. Most people got the memory of a hamster so... It's part of the treadmill to remind em. |
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Help me think of a cool contest :winkwink: |
Personally I always thought it odd that affiliate programs do not give away software packages or scripts that could be useful for a traffic genmaster.
Servers, Computers etc. If I had a program thats what I would do. Or even vacations. |
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I'll start sending you traffic if you pay $35 per trial. Conversions can not be any worse than 1:400, second page is fine. No need to pay double, just match. I don't send massive traffic, but it is consistent, meaning you can expect to send me a new check every 2 weeks from my start til my end. |
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thats not the point I already do everyhting else and I'm done with the extra shit that nobody cares about like diners,contest etc. :) this thread was real informative |
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Is the bonus a one time deal or does it renew after every 100 joins? |
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But as the party lists get smaller - the people I talk to - seem to take more notice of the companies that are always involved in helping organize/get people together. Platinumbucks, Lensmans' Projects, Topbucks, CCBill - seem to be on the top of the list of companies that are continually sponsoring events. I still don't do nearly enough with the companies I just mentioned - but I definately notice the effort they put out. Everybody else would too - if they dried up. |
We try to mix things up as much as possible. We do contest / giveaways, raise payouts and play host to gatherings. You just have to be as smart and as optimal as possible when you do them.
The contest are a double-edge sword in a way, as most of the time the winner isn't your affiliate and will never send traffic, however, you really just exposed your product, for whatever that is worth (something of which you may never know). With gatherings, you just have to be methodical and insure that both non-affiliates you have never met and current affiliates show up. We try to do this by teaming up with other non-competing programs. At the end of the day, you will be judged by your product: the content, the billing schematics, the support, etc. The financials in an IPOD giveaway in no way effect payout raises. We will always raise payouts before doing a contest, I think most programs would. You have a great product Roger and you obviously care about it, I wouldn't read too much into events and IPOD giveaways. I would also not allow one thread to set the tone for all your future marketing, IMO. I need a new ad from you when you get an opportunity :) |
What an ignorant post. I would and always will do business people that put their monies back into their company rather then blowing it on a bunch of snot nosed 18 year old kids or a 33 year old that feels he is owed somethng. Un fucking real. How is investing money back into their company in lue of throwing bs parties where 90% of the people there never send them traffic anyways, "sucking money out of the industry"?. Its the total opposite. Fuck the parties, give us more content, more galleries, higher payouts, more site options. Let the kiddies buy their own damn bear. I send my clients a nice Christmas gift every year. I dont have to get them all fucked up and put a titty in their face to keep their business. Glad I dont either.... cuz the day after the show, they have forgot your name. Contest can be cool, if they are planned and targeted, but my god.. using parties and give aways as a buisness plan is just dumb. Service should win everytime and in the end.. it always does.
I didnt read this whole thread... maybe it was a joke thread by your Roger and if so, im sorry. If its not a joke, then its the dumbest thing you have ever said. :2 cents: |
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I didnt realize you guys think a program is hurting when they give back shit I should go stealth hell Might just buy me something with the money. At least i understand now I was wasting my time and money it was fun though :winkwink: call me sometime and I will set you up |
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your telling me programs like Silvercash,topbucks, hustler,Adult.com I can go on and on dont put there money back into the company and give you everyhting you just mentioned and more? |
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this thread just proves most dont care they just like to complain and it has swayed me since nobody came in to even appreciate the give backs. that make this industry fun . But I will support thse that continue too :thumbsup |
Suck money out of the industry and never give it back? If you're paying affiliates you're "giving" it back to the industry. Throwing parties, sponsoring contests, etc.. are all marketing to drive more business to your company. Advertising.
It sounds like you're putting yourself on a pedastool Roger. :2 cents: |
Didnt mean to be all harsh there Roger... Just seen to many new companies more concerned about the "party" then the product. The serious people here only care about the product. Getting together now and then is cool and everyone likes that, but to cater to a bunch of kids who has no clue on who you are or what you do is pointless and theres no finanical reward, longterm in doing so. However, the serious kids understand the value of increased sales tools and better content and day to day support and service that will help put food on their tables. Dont go after the kid looking for beer money for the weekends... those are the pricks that show up at those parties anymore. Go for the kids that wanna eat and ask questions, proving they are in it for more then the beer and peaks at some tits. Those people will come find you if your product is strong. Put the money into the company. Few on here have the resources to do it right. Ron and ccbill is one that does and has always put on parties that were benefical for all those that attended.
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one of the worst..threads..ever
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Hit me up tomorrow for the ad and It bugs me but I will prob. continue to mix it up like you guys do. :thumbsup |
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But I understand and agree with most of what you said |
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why it hits home? |
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not at all..it just shows me how much I really value low key sponsors.Customer service and good content is king |
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Have I not always answered you but you never follow thru with me. maybe cause I'm white who knows. but i bet I convert well for you |
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At the end of the day, the product is what will sell the webmaster, how you get there is a different story. Bang Brothers and Nastydollars have a great product and word of mouth attracts tons of business for them. That is their marketing and that is where most any program strives to be. You have a great product as well and you work hard at marketing it, it will pay off, seems it already has. People just misread they way you communicated the thread's contents, it actually is informing. Have a nice night man. |
bump for you! :)
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Basically it comes down to how much a sponsor makes me every month. I personally dont care if they throw parties or do contests. If i send sponsor A 30k hits and that makes $2500 and i send sponsor B 30k hits and that only makes $1000 and they throw parties who do you think i am going to send more traffic to next month? :)
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so I'll probbably take a break from the boards unless I get to bored LOL wonder if I can be a lerker like I used to be in the past |
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I bet you go to the shows to get free shit and never sent a hit to anyone or maybe you still live at home with mom :2 cents: |
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what if sponsor c 30k hits and make you $3000 and does contest, sponsors parties and bars and gives away free shit who are you going to send all your traffic too? |
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What you should have said was: if Sponsor A and B make you $3k but Sponsor B has parties and contests, who would you pick? For me it would still be a toss up unless one offer rewards. |
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hit me up this week to chat when you have time |
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