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Old 03-30-2002, 05:17 PM   #1
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Is anyone else making mad cash with...

ThugCash???
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Old 03-30-2002, 05:21 PM   #2
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I dont like that name very much
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Old 03-30-2002, 05:24 PM   #3
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most of the silver-backs on this board will know what I am talking about
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:40 PM   #4
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is that a hint that you think the diamonbacks are gonna win it next year?

should i place my bets?
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Old 03-30-2002, 06:59 PM   #5
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LOL...

meant Old-timers by gorilla standards

although the DB's did win last year

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Old 03-31-2002, 01:38 AM   #6
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Thugcash works well if you suse Louie or Three Finger Petey, but sucks total ass if you use Pepe or Big Ass Ned,,,,but your mileage may vary........
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Old 03-31-2002, 01:55 AM   #7
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you should use mafiabucks instead and let it snow
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Old 03-31-2002, 02:49 AM   #8
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It converts good just like freeezinebucks did huh? give it another couple weeks and it will be so saturated that conversions will be shit!

---- Edited just for Snow ----
FreeEzineBucks was converting extremely good too. I think mafiabucks is doing so well because it is a new program.. I'm betting as soon as more webmasters start promoting it the conversions won't be as good because there will be a smaller piece of the pie for everybody.

Does that make it more clear for you snow? sheesh.

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Old 03-31-2002, 03:24 AM   #9
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No it does not.. I don't think it's cool when a designer comes in here who doesnt even have a portfollio making accusations like that..

Gee maybe I should say something like Your design sucks it's all over the place.. Someday you will learn..I'm fair to everyone and NEVER knock anyone down.. Everyone deserves a shot incuding all the new content providers whom I always give support..I could have easily supported you but you stepped on your dick.
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Old 03-31-2002, 03:29 AM   #10
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Snow I'd think you'd have more of an idea how the adult industry works. You don't seem to be getting the point I've been trying to make to you.

IT HAPPENS TO EVERY ADULT SITE ON THE INTERNET.

Too many webmasters use it and the piece of the pie that each can take home gets smaller and smaller.

Just for reference I'll post our ICQ conversation in which you acted very professionally. Don't try to bully me, I won't stand for your shit.

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SNOW(02:09 AM) :
who are you taliing about?

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:10 AM) :
huh?

SNOW(02:10 AM) :
Your jeff?

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:10 AM) :
yeah

SNOW(02:10 AM) :
It converts good just like freeezinebucks did huh? give it another couple weeks and it will be so saturated that conversions will be shit!

SNOW(02:10 AM) :
Who are you talking about here

SNOW(02:11 AM) :
On GFY

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:11 AM) :
I'm saying mafiabucks converts really good now but I bet once a bunch more webmasters start promoting it the conversions will drop (as is the case with ANY program on the internet)

SNOW(02:11 AM) :
You better change that post and say it wasnt about me? If it was then I will deal with it my way

SNOW(02:11 AM) :
Well we dont nee dyour bullshit negativity nor do i need yours

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:11 AM) :
please... don't try to make some big deal out of the obvious

SNOW(02:12 AM) :
Oh i will edit the post and were cool

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:12 AM) :
it happens to every program as more webmasters promote it

SNOW(02:12 AM) :
I dont need you putting this down.. this is my life you idiot..

SNOW(02:12 AM) :
I can easily say something about your design site

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:12 AM) :
How is it putting it down? Use common sense

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:13 AM) :
And you'd be correct, the more design sites there are the harder it will be for individual designers to make money

SNOW(02:13 AM) :
edit it or i will say something about you.. thats the way it works

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:13 AM) :
I don't think you're reading the post right which would in fact make you the idiot.

SNOW(02:15 AM) :
I just launched.. I dont need negativity from anyone.. Especially people who don't even promote me.. I take this very serious..

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:15 AM) :
Whatever you want to do, I don't see your problem, I didn't say in any shape or form that your site sucks. FreeEzineBucks is an excellent program but once hundreds of webmasters start promoting it, it loses its value for each individual. Its a smaller piece of the pie for everybody

SNOW(02:16 AM) :
I would NEVER put anyone down nor your design..Weather I thought your designs sucked or not, I would never put you down.. Your stepping on your dick

SNOW(02:16 AM) :
please make the post nicer.. Thats not cool

XXXPaysiteDesign(02:19 AM) :
There, if thats not good enough for you than post all you want, there is no bashing in that post at all to begin with but maybe that makes it a little more clear for you

SNOW(02:22 AM) :
well you mad it even worse.. so i have nothing more to say
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Old 03-31-2002, 03:39 AM   #11
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pornopete - can you tell me what will happen when hundreds of other webmasters start promoting mafiabucks? Do you think you'll keep your 1:100 ratios? good luck.

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Old 03-31-2002, 04:05 AM   #12
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Snow dont act like mafia boss.

Jeff posted his opinion about how paysites become overpromoted through time and convertions become worse. It wasnt a personal attack. Better get used to the idea of being a sponsor, because you're gonna see way worse posts like this. That's breakfast for sponsors
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Old 03-31-2002, 04:08 AM   #13
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it's a fact of the adult internet. i've seen it happen a hundred times. sites *definitely* get oversaturated the longer they are exposed.
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Old 03-31-2002, 11:48 AM   #14
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never heard of em..

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Old 03-31-2002, 11:58 AM   #15
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I agree.

The quickest way to kill a program is to get every god damn gallery kid and tgp cockholster promoting your program.
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Old 03-31-2002, 11:59 AM   #16
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and I have seen the effects of it on FreeEzineBucks just in this week.
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Old 03-31-2002, 12:07 PM   #17
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Back in 97, I learned that email and other non-message board communications should remain private. Did anyone else learn that? And is it only newbies who run around copying and pasting email/icq chats?

Or maybe im wrong and no communication is private.
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Old 03-31-2002, 12:10 PM   #18
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Gary -

The reason I posted the ICQ conversation was to show that I tried to explain to snow what I was talking about but he either didn't understand or chose not to read what I was typing.
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Old 03-31-2002, 02:03 PM   #19
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Old 03-31-2002, 02:19 PM   #20
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some things are just better left unsaid.

It's true that paysites get oversaturated with time, but there are ways to minimize this effect.

Snow has launched a new program, he has worked very hard to institute this program and from day 1 he has been there for me ( on icq) letting me Know whats happening. All this going on and he is taking time out of his work to talk to me and keep me informed.

All I can say is give it a chance and don't knock it until you've tried it.
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Old 03-31-2002, 02:24 PM   #21
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See when you support people and not put them down this is the reslult you get..
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Old 03-31-2002, 03:21 PM   #22
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I dont think it will get oversaturated till you have many
thousands of webmasters pushing it.


Look at amatuerpages most people do better then 1 in 800
with it...

and they have 10' of thousands of webmasters
That doesnt stop them from converting.


I dont think there really is a oversaturation
everyday there are thousands of new surfers to
the internet and they have never seen the site

same with many other programs out there its not
oversaturation its shitty sites that cause convertions
to go down the tubes things like useing the same
content thats on every other site or not updating
the members areas often that cause the site to be shit


I think the best descision Snow made was to open his
own production studio and shoot for his sites exclusivly.
That will be what make his sites excell after he gets going.

I think saying a program is oversaturated and thats why
it doesnt sell is just an excuse at poor affiliate webmaster
skills. I have had people tell me my program was
oversaturated, after a few minutes of asking what they are
doing to promote it made me realize they just didnt know
what they were doing.

Yeah building galleries is probably the fasted way to make
some money. But what did you do with that gallery after
you submitted it?

Did you combine it with a few others from the site and make
a Free site? then did you submit that to the search engines?
what about getting it listed on a link list?

did you then take that same free site and turn it into an AVS
site? How about making it an avs site on all the good avs sites?


It goes on and on people that think something is oversaturated
just dont maximize the potential

If your gallery doesnt convert it might be you dont know how
to make it convert!

Just ASK people will help

Just my Now make sure you attend
The Phoenix Forum next
weekend so you can take some notes in the classes
and make some money and not wonder why things
are oversaturated....
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