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			 Snow's Parole Officer 
			
		
			
			
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				Is anyone else making mad cash with...
			 
			ThugCash??? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I dont like that name very much   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 Snow's Parole Officer 
			
		
			
			
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		 most of the silver-backs on this board will know what I am talking about 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 is that a hint that you think the diamonbacks are gonna win it next year? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			should i place my bets? 
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			 Snow's Parole Officer 
			
		
			
			
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		 LOL... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	meant Old-timers by gorilla standards although the DB's did win last year ![]()  | 
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		 Thugcash works well if you suse Louie or Three Finger Petey, but sucks total ass if you use Pepe or Big Ass Ned,,,,but your mileage may vary........ 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 you should use mafiabucks instead and let it snow 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It converts good just like freeezinebucks did huh? give it another couple weeks and it will be so saturated that conversions will be shit!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	---- Edited just for Snow ---- FreeEzineBucks was converting extremely good too. I think mafiabucks is doing so well because it is a new program.. I'm betting as soon as more webmasters start promoting it the conversions won't be as good because there will be a smaller piece of the pie for everybody. Does that make it more clear for you snow? sheesh. [signature edited out]  | 
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		 No it does not.. I don't think it's cool when a designer comes in here who doesnt even have a  portfollio  making accusations like that..  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Gee maybe I should say something like Your design sucks it's all over the place.. Someday you will learn..I'm fair to everyone and NEVER knock anyone down.. Everyone deserves a shot incuding all the new content providers whom I always give support..I could have easily supported you but you stepped on your dick.  | 
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		 Snow I'd think you'd have more of an idea how the adult industry works. You don't seem to be getting the point I've been trying to make to you.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	IT HAPPENS TO EVERY ADULT SITE ON THE INTERNET. Too many webmasters use it and the piece of the pie that each can take home gets smaller and smaller. Just for reference I'll post our ICQ conversation in which you acted very professionally. Don't try to bully me, I won't stand for your shit. Quote: 
	
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		 pornopete - can you tell me what will happen when hundreds of other webmasters start promoting mafiabucks? Do you think you'll keep your 1:100 ratios? good luck. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Snow dont act like mafia boss.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Jeff posted his opinion about how paysites become overpromoted through time and convertions become worse. It wasnt a personal attack. Better get used to the idea of being a sponsor, because you're gonna see way worse posts like this. That's breakfast for sponsors  | 
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		 it's a fact of the adult internet. i've seen it happen a hundred times. sites *definitely* get oversaturated the longer they are exposed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 never heard of em.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	The quickest way to kill a program is to get every god damn gallery kid and tgp cockholster promoting your program.  | 
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		 and I have seen the effects of it on FreeEzineBucks just in this week. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Back in 97, I learned that email and other non-message board communications should remain private. Did anyone else learn that? And is it only newbies who run around copying and pasting email/icq chats? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Or maybe im wrong and no communication is private. 
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		 Gary - 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The reason I posted the ICQ conversation was to show that I tried to explain to snow what I was talking about but he either didn't understand or chose not to read what I was typing.  | 
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		 ******s. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 some things are just better left unsaid. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	It's true that paysites get oversaturated with time, but there are ways to minimize this effect. Snow has launched a new program, he has worked very hard to institute this program and from day 1 he has been there for me ( on icq) letting me Know whats happening. All this going on and he is taking time out of his work to talk to me and keep me informed. All I can say is give it a chance and don't knock it until you've tried it.  | 
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		 See when you support people and not put them down this is the reslult you get.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I dont think  it will get oversaturated till you have many 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	thousands of webmasters pushing it. Look at amatuerpages most people do better then 1 in 800 with it... and they have 10' of thousands of webmasters That doesnt stop them from converting. I dont think there really is a oversaturation everyday there are thousands of new surfers to the internet and they have never seen the site same with many other programs out there its not oversaturation its shitty sites that cause convertions to go down the tubes things like useing the same content thats on every other site or not updating the members areas often that cause the site to be shit I think the best descision Snow made was to open his own production studio and shoot for his sites exclusivly. That will be what make his sites excell after he gets going. I think saying a program is oversaturated and thats why it doesnt sell is just an excuse at poor affiliate webmaster skills. I have had people tell me my program was oversaturated, after a few minutes of asking what they are doing to promote it made me realize they just didnt know what they were doing. Yeah building galleries is probably the fasted way to make some money. But what did you do with that gallery after you submitted it? Did you combine it with a few others from the site and make a Free site? then did you submit that to the search engines? what about getting it listed on a link list? did you then take that same free site and turn it into an AVS site? How about making it an avs site on all the good avs sites? It goes on and on people that think something is oversaturated just dont maximize the potential If your gallery doesnt convert it might be you dont know how to make it convert! Just ASK people will help Just my    Now make sure you attend The Phoenix Forum next weekend so you can take some notes in the classes and make some money and not wonder why things are oversaturated....  | 
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