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time to strike back at the religious right
I was reading online some of the woes that are be-setting us all.. from Jennas problems with her club in AZ to the 38yr old goody goody running the FCC, who is trying to extort the cable companies from putting any more adult stars or HBO racy stuff on. Even late at night the plugs is being pressured to be pulled by churchers who in thier infinte wisdom know whats good for everyone else.
EA is having setbacks with its courtcase, and a LOT of us don't seem to be paying attention. I for one am starting a - your cross annoys me email and letter blitz... If we offend them THEY offend me and by george its gonna hurt them as well. those HUGE stories high crosses on i-80 and 70 have got to go first.... but there needs to be a reason.. freedom of religion and all... if everyone started to get off thier duffs and spoke out somehow we wouldnt be backpeddling in whats a good business. Is adult going to go back to dark alley production and sales? looks that way. While things are going strong, I see some dark clouds that are getting to close for comfort. I want to be able to CHOOSE what I want to see and do. I will not let some knee jerk bible thumper allow the forces that be penalize us for free thinking. but the forces that be operate by who has the most money. We squabble over little bits of money here and there... we hoard it like spoiled little kids who cant see the mighty developer is coming to take their sandbox; its time to get pro active like the family coalitions do. Do NOT be ashamed of what you choose to do. the very act of being ashamed in your body language when you DO tell someone, tells them that even though your saying one thing. you yourself dont believe it. adults getting the piss knocked out of it. it doesnt LOOK like it here in cali or vegas, but the other 28 states say otherwise. billborads by the dozens saying pornagraphy kills and mains... are everywhere in the midwest. full billboards. its time to step up and fight. |
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GOOD luck.
People in this biz are too bust stabbing each other in the back to get togather and do something about it.
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It all starts by doing something small. You know, it's like who can save the earth from global warming? Well you can by taking your old newspapers to the recycling box. It's like that.
So to get back at them, start by doing something small. A gift subscription to Hustler or if you know that they swing the other way, Bear magazine. Email them with a free password to your paysite. Soon, they will indulge in masturbation and start to pay for your service, thus fattening your wallet and saving many choir boys from the inevitable anal stretch that those hypocrites would have otherwise given them.
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FSC as Vanguard in Cultural War.
As you know, we of the Free Speech Coalition (FSC) are on the frontline of a culture war that will define the individual freedoms Americans enjoy for the next century: erotica vs censorship, evolution vs biblical truth, reproductive rights vs abstinence, gay rights vs immorality, universalism vs fundamentalism, etc. By working together, we can make a difference.
I, personally, don't believe that the FSC has maintained a low profile as a matter of choice. The FSC has been the vanguard of the adult industry for facing legal challenges and governmental regulations for many years. The boardmembers of the FSC come from a mix of adult-related businesses and associations. We are a dedicated, hard-core, group of free speech advocates who are willing to put our money and time "where our mouths are." The reason that we are perceived by the adult internet segment as low-profile are threefold: 1. The lack of resources. We are limited by our ability to raise funds. We operate on our membership dues and whatever benevolent patrons are willing to donate. We are not like the NRA with millions of members (but, we are working on it.) As our membership grows, so does our ability to be an effective trade association thru legal challenges, lobbying, and dissemination of information. We encourage, appreciate and solicit participation of the adult internet industry segment. By coming together in our common cause, we can accomplish great things. 2. The lack of interest. Most adult webmasters had never heard of the FSC or sought out a trade association to represent their interest prior to last June's issue of new 2257 regulations. The overwhelming attitude until then was that the problems of the "old videostores, video manufactures, and magazine publishers" had nothing to do with the internet and were irrevelant. When it became apparent the DOJ didn't care what your medium is, if your content falls under their regulations, you must submit to their arcane and unconstitutional regulations. Only then, most webmasters realized the cultural battle being fought is directly concerned with "the content" and they are sitting on "ground zero" in the cultural war. 3. The lack of an extended organizational structure. Like the NRA, we need to reach out to our customer base and get them involved in protecting their right to view erotica in the privacy of their homes. We need to organize local and regional chapters to address local concerns and counteract pro-censorship groups that are organizing through local church groups. Local politicians tend to address the concerns of the most vocal proponents of a particular issue and the procensorship groups are very vocal. If YOU expect to have a right of privacy, you have to realize that it begins with YOUR home in YOUR hometown. If you want to start an FSC Chapter in your area, feel free to contact us as we are currently working on organizing local chapters and would appreciate your participation. I wouldn't expect everybody to agree with me. We, the adult industry, are notoriously independent and free thinkers. Our independence is both our blessing and our curse. We are blessed in that we know the difference between independent thinking and "governmental-orchestrated, religious-based" censorship. We are cursed in that our independent natures make us not want to be involved in organized activities that require we spend time, energy, and money on a common goal. A blessing and a curse..... However, survival in the USA as a viable industry requires we get involved. To that end, I'd suggest you take time to write a letter to a Congressman, call into a local radio show, attend a FSC meeting or visit the booth at a tradeshow, post free speech messages in other forums, put a FSC logo and link on your websites, etc. Collectively, individual efforts will make a huge difference in which side wins this cultural war. Will it be us? or them? |
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Good luck with your struggles.
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If the FSC had more money, I'm sure they could do more. But even if they have millions of dollars, with the anti-free speech Bush administration, they can't even get into the government meetings on pornography.
The problem is bigger than just porn, the right wing is waging a war on civil rights in America. Right wingers are going to make the Patriot Act permanent. |
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I always thought a smart move would be to joe-job the religious freaks... someone needs to start a crazy ass church that tells people to pray to santa or some shit so it just reduces their credibility even more....
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One of the problems is the racial christians know how to organize , Ford recieves 1000 letters and shits in their pants. What they dont realize is there are only 500 of them. Porn will never organize, its laziness , cheapness for anything thats not showy and like little kids if they arent looking directly at me I will ignore it .
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Couch potatoes, it's time to drop the remote. E-mail the FCC. Stop the Parents Television Council before it gets beyond the TV.
Tim Goodman Monday, December 13, 2004 FCC Chairman Michael Powell. Associated Press photo by Jo... John Hawkes, Timothy Olyphant, Keith Carradine in "Deadwo... * Printable Version * Email This Article Tim Goodman My vote for best media/television story of the year goes to one you may have missed. Mediaweek reported on Dec. 6 that of all the "indecency complaints" to the Federal Communications Commission in 2003, a startling 99.8 percent of them came from one conservative group, the Parents Television Council. And through October of this year, apart from complaints over Janet Jackson's infamous "wardrobe malfunction," a full 99.9 percent of the complaints about indecency have again come from the Parents Television Council. That means a small group of highly mobilized conservative watchdogs has essentially driven the "moral values" campaign directed at the FCC. Hey, blue staters, this is a much smaller picture than you ever imagined. Forget about looking at that depressing election map and feeling overwhelmed, like you're on a cultural island apart from the rest of the country. The sad fact is, while you've been pouting -- and prior to that, when you were watching Jon Stewart and gloating -- you let a small group of reactionary conservatives set the agenda. In short, you've fallen asleep at your Mac, friends. In the land of the tech savvy, you've been e-mailing among yourselves instead of sending off missives to FCC Chairman Michael Powell. You've missed a chance to say, "Hey Mike, I'm an adult who knows how to work my television's remote control. I may not like everything I see, but I want you to know that I am disinterested in creating some McCarthyesque chill factor in the creative community. Yours sincerely." What's the use of all that wireless capacity, that lust for cool tech, if you're going to surf EBay instead of, say, dictate the national debate on indecency? The Mediaweek story, a beautiful pinprick into the hype-filled balloon of rampant American worries about morality, can be read by clicking here. Or just type this into your search engine: "Mediaweek, incompetent Michael Powell, gutless FCC, Parents Television Council killing the First Amendment, much ado about people who don't like nipples or gays or art." That might get you some hits to start with. If 2004 was the year the Culture War became a scene out of "The Lord of the Rings," we now know that scare tactics and chest-pounding about moral values came from the finger-clicking of a relative few and found their way up through the FCC and out of the mouth of President Bush. Just remember, you might feel like you're in Helms Deep right now, but when you look out at the vanquishing horde of conservative watchdog goons, it's really just a CGI illusion. Which means there's hope in beating back the censorship rampage of a very tiny minority. The Mediaweek story said that the number of complaints to the FCC in 2003 totaled 240,000, which was up from a mere 14,000 in 2002. People complaining to the FCC in both 2001 and 2000 numbered about 350 in each year. So, let's see, that's roughly the amount of people in three BART train cars on your morning commute. Representing the entire country. Until the Parents Television Council got wise to the Internet, of course. The Mediaweek story said Powell went to Congress in 2003 and played the town crier, saying there was "a dramatic rise in public concern and outrage about what is being broadcast into their homes." Except there wasn't. The FCC -- no surprise to anyone who knows this bunch of Play-Doh-spined public servants -- were used. Now the PTC and Powell have responded to the Mediaweek story by saying, "Hey, it doesn't matter where these complaints about indecency came from. These are still Americans being outraged." But you know what? Yes, it does matter. Because the FCC is supposed to be a sounding board for people who view a TV show, are upset about the content and seek a place to complain outside of the network that aired it. But the process is being hijacked by people who in all likelihood aren't even watching the shows but are responding to a group that tells them the content is wicked. Meanwhile, thinking people with minds that actually open and function are not sending in e-mails to Powell that say, "I saw something I didn't think was appropriate for my kids, so I changed the channel. I handled it. No need to start a holy war about it. I'm looking forward to 'Deadwood' on HBO. You should TiVo it if you haven't already. Anyway, have a nice day." If the FCC takes action only after the public complains -- and it's clear now that only members of the Parents Television Council are complaining -- then to counterbalance their worries about what constitutes indecency, less reactionary viewers will now have to rise from the couch and join the debate. So much for television being passive, escapist entertainment. And goodbye to the quaint notion that you can vote with your remote. Apparently, freedom of choice is out of vogue. Using the government to tell everyone else what they can and can't watch is the new black. I loathe politics. On all sides. I'd rather do almost anything than involve myself in that tainted, broken process. But neither do I want the Parents Television Council wagging the tail of the dog that bites the writer's hand in Hollywood. So I'm going to write an e-mail to Michael Powell (you can, too, right here) and tell him these things: -- "I'm a relatively upstanding citizen. I have two small kids. They only watch what I let them. -- "I know how to use my TV remote. I know how to turn my television off. -- "On my television, I like violence. I like nudity. I like guns going off. I like people having sex. I like swearing. I like shows with gay people in them. I like shows where gay people have sex. I like shows where gay people shoot guns. And swear. I like stuff that blows up. -- "I also like 'Little Bear.' And shows about architecture and design. And C-SPAN. If that helps. -- "I hope this e-mail offsets another from the Parents Television Council. I hope you get a lot more just like this. Because I want the PTC out of my living room. I've got a sneaking suspicion they're going to end up in my bedroom. "Yours sincerely." |
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Very interesting article tony404. Not really surprising, but a good read nonetheless.
Again, a reminder of the censorship episode of WKRP in Cincinnati of years past, where the religious right was ultimately made out to look bad...not the other way around. For those that don't know the episode... http://zvbxrpl.blogspot.com/2004/06/...ght-on-tv.html The only show in the early '80s that dealt with the issue in this way was WKRP In Cincinnati, which had been on Falwell's list, probably the presence of then-sex-symbol Loni Anderson. The creator of WKRP, Hugh Wilson, co-wrote an episode called "Clean Up Radio Everywhere," the third-season finale, which featured Falwell-lookalike Richard Paul as a preacher, Dr. Bob Halyers, leading an organization called CURB: Clean Up Radio Everywhere. When WKRP refuses to let CURB dictate its playlist, Halyers organizes a boycott, causing WKRP to lose most of its regular advertisers. What makes the episode work is that it's actually balanced -- not in the sense of being neutral or having no point of view, but in the sense of taking other points of view seriously. Halyers is not a bad guy; he's far more likable than Jerry Falwell (not hard, of course). Moreover, the episode is told from the point of view of station manager Mr. Carlson (the late, great Gordon Jump), a conservative, religious man who doesn't like songs with dirty words or sexual content any more than Halyers does. When Carlson later confronts Halyers, the preacher makes a serious and very plausible argument about why CURB's mission is acceptable: he's representing a group of concerned citizens who are exercising their right to express their opinions about the contents of the public airwaves; why should one man (a station manager, a program director) be invulnerable to the complaints of a segment of the public? Then, in the most famous part of this scene, Carlson shows the lyrics of John Lennon's "Imagine" to Halyers, who pronounces them blasphemous ("Imagine there's no heaven"). Everyone who's seen this episode remembers that part, but not a lot of people seem to remember that that's not the point of the scene. This is the climax of the scene: Mr Carlson: On the list or not? Dr Bob: I have no choice but to say on. Mr Carlson: That decision was made by one man. What gives Halyers' game away is not that he doesn't like the lyrics to "Imagine," but that he alone is making the decisions about what goes on the list; instead of helping a group of people express their opinions, as he claims he's doing, he's actually using the grassroots argument as an excuse for enforcing his own personal opinions, and passing them off as the opinions of his flock. In other words, the episode actually leaves open the possibility that it would be OK to have a genuine protest by a segment of the public against something that offends them; what it condemns, and what such "protests" usually turn out to be, is one person's attempt to gain an dangerous amount of power (over the people he claims to speak for and the people he speaks against). |
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