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Old 12-08-2005, 08:41 AM   #1
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How much dicipline is the right amount of dicipline?

You see parents all the time these days in the news for child abuse, excessive punishment, etc etc. So where is the line drawn? Kids these days are weak. Seems they are all either wannabe punks with 0 respect for anything or anyone or some super complex emo kid who cuts himself a lot. Growing up, I understood that if I fucked up, and my dad found out, my ass was going to experience some serious pain in belt form. If he did that shit today, he'd end up in jail, BUT, I am a better person for it. I understand right and wrong. I open doors for women. I say yes ma'am and no sir to persons older than myself. I am generally polite and respectful when the situation calls for it. Call it old fashioned, but that's how I was raised. Nowadays, you can't raise your kid like that. Is that a bad thing? Or is it doing some good for society? What's better? Raising your kids with a tougher brand of parenting? Or bending to them...being a touchy feely parent?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:46 AM   #2
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So true,

Kids these days get away with anything and everything. I seen a group of 15yo's down my local shops today smashing a car window to try and steal something. i ran over and they fucked off, and the thing is alot of there parents dont give a flying fuck. Its bullshit, if i ever fucked up and my parents found out i was dead meat. i would cop a fucking belting.... these little fuckers of today need some harsh dicipline by the parents are the cops.

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Old 12-08-2005, 08:56 AM   #3
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Whoah! I am mixed Old School and New School.. depends on the crime and either you're getting a long assed speech and writing some lines or you did something worse in which case, you're getting a couple of smacks on your hand/butt AND writing some lines or being grounded.

Parents today are afraid to smack their kids, now I'm referring to smacks on the bum.. not abuse but old school "pick up the slipper" and smack the butt (not head or anything else for that matter). It's just a wakeup call that you're not just going to get a little 'talk' and all is fine.

I've only smacked my 7 year old once on his butt and he was shocked, it did not hurt him but the fact that I did that I know it worked and got to him the point of how important it was to me that he not run across the damn street without looking both ways. Since then, he's never done it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:07 AM   #4
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You know, I just don't know. This is something I struggle with on a daily basis. I have 2 boys (12 & 8). My oldest just started middle school which is a serious wake up call for me, its like he changed over night.

I was raised the old fashion way as well and I think that is callled fear parenting, which I feel worked because I am good person and was never in trouble as child or teen, but then I think is having your children fear you the best thing? Its very hard to find that balance and get the respect you need. As always respect needs to be earned, but it seems with a child they need just need to give it to a parent no matter what.

Like most of us these days, I have given my kids basically everything, and sometimes I wonder if that was wrong of me because today I am starting to see the negative results of that. I always thoughts when my son turns 16 I am giving him brand new car, a fantasy that I never received. However, know I am singing a different tune, I really think he is going to have earn it himself and work for it.

Ok, I am babbling on, but this subject gets me going LOL
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:08 AM   #5
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Discipline gotta be strict from day 1. That's it and that's all. You can't wake up when your girl is 14 years old and fucking the whole neighbor asking yourself what you did wrong.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:10 AM   #6
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You know, I just don't know. This is something I struggle with on a daily basis. I have 2 boys (12 & 8). My oldest just started middle school which is a serious wake up call for me, its like he changed over night.

I was raised the old fashion way as well and I think that is callled fear parenting, which I feel worked because I am good person and was never in trouble as child or teen, but then I think is having your children fear you the best thing? Its very hard to find that balance and get the respect you need. As always respect needs to be earned, but it seems with a child they need just need to give it to a parent no matter what.

Like most of us these days, I have given my kids basically everything, and sometimes I wonder if that was wrong of me because today I am starting to see the negative results of that. I always thoughts when my son turns 16 I am giving him brand new car, a fantasy that I never received. However, know I am singing a different tune, I really think he is going to have earn it himself and work for it.

Ok, I am babbling on, but this subject gets me going LOL
He has to fear you because you are the AUTHORITY. If he got bad grades, you will remove his video games. If he spends too much time on the internet and not enough on what matters, you will remove his computer screen ... etc etc etc.

They gotta constantly earn what they have... unless they wake up and start working on their stuff proprely.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:12 AM   #7
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i agree, discipline must begin at an early age. society really is changing that's why parents should cope up and try to find the best way to discipline their children.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:17 AM   #8
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Oh yea he get stuff taken away for grades, etc. I am not saying I don't discipline him because I do, I am questioning whether having them fear you is the best method.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:18 AM   #9
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i cant even tell my daugther no without feeling like shit lol

she just looks at me and starts crying and i give in :D
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:25 AM   #10
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Spare the rod, spoil the child.

Its quick and effective. That does not mean you beat their ass till the cant walk, god no.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:27 AM   #11
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:37 AM   #12
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we were at frontera the other day and i heard this guy talking to the waitress about the exact same thing. i totally agreed with what he said. she was saying that if her son was bad in a store, she'd wait til they got home to punish him. he said. don't do that. you need to correct them immediately. give him a spanking at the store. it will embarrass him and he probably won't do it again.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:49 AM   #13
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The key to having good kids is CONSISTENCY. If you say 'if you don't do your homework, you're grounded' then GROUND him when it's not done. If you say 'if you lie you're getting a spanking' then SPANK him when he lies. It's parents who scream out empty threats and never follow through who have rotten kids with no respect. They won't believe a word you say if you never follow through with your word.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:54 AM   #14
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fuck that shit, my kids will be getting the same crap i grew up with...belt on the ass, soap in the mouth (for swearing), and everything else. teaches respect, disclipline and right from wrong.

kids these days mouth off and disrespect everyone, and i will be damned if i find out one of those kids is my own offspring. i'll be the crazy mom hunting down her son at the Mall in her pj's & curlers, beating the shit out of him for not coming home on time lol
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