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Old 12-04-2005, 07:46 PM   #1
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Clickcash, I realy need a Christmas present this year.

I know, i know, they never posted here but i'm sure they read everything related to them.

I'm doing fucking good with you since 2 months or so and my account have not been canned. That mean you are doing great with me.

I need a tv, playing games (i got an xbox but could use something different), a car (even used), computer (would love a laptop), free traffic (winner winner situation)and/or laser eye surgery (i plan to pay it myself anyway).

I wont tell others see sig for account code and a big thank you.
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Old 12-05-2005, 07:43 AM   #2
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I know, i know, they never posted here but i'm sure they read everything related to them.

I'm doing fucking good with you since 2 months or so and my account have not been canned. That mean you are doing great with me.

I need a tv, playing games (i got an xbox but could use something different), a car (even used), computer (would love a laptop), free traffic (winner winner situation)and/or laser eye surgery (i plan to pay it myself anyway).

I wont tell others see sig for account code and a big thank you.
Sorry man, they are not like the other affiliate companies here who try to attract the newbies with gifts and shit. ClickCash gives you a present every week with the payout. I do really well with them and I get a card each year, which I think is a nice gesture on their part.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:11 AM   #3
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:15 AM   #4
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Why don't your promote me ;)
you'd make a lot more money at 30% recurring over the lifetime of the membership. Our per member value is around $250. @ 30% that is pretty good money especially when you get a whale. With that kind of money you can afford to buy a new car. And, if your traffic ever stops you will continue to make money for a while.
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Clickcash are a bunch of amateurs.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:23 AM   #6
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You should try our affiliate site www.otcash.com.

If you do you will recieve 50% recurring of every membership you sell which means you will get 50% of the signup fee and continue to get 50% of the monthly membership fee every month that that person stays a member.

doesnt that sound good
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this thread is fucking funny....
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:27 AM   #8
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Why don't your promote me ;)
you'd make a lot more money at 30% recurring over the lifetime of the membership. Our per member value is around $250. @ 30% that is pretty good money especially when you get a whale. With that kind of money you can afford to buy a new car. And, if your traffic ever stops you will continue to make money for a while.
30% of $250 is $75.

So I need to get someone to spend $250 for me to make $75 or I get someone to spend $0 and I make $55....

From my experience, I can get 4x more free signups (w/credit card) from the same traffic then I can get someone to pay for a membership ($20 month ect). If you factor in I need the person to spend $250+, I might get 10 free signups to every $250 customer.

now if clickcash was offering me 30% I would jump on it, hell I would do it with them for 20%. They have the most chathost online (very large variety to choose from), several different ways to upsell the user, and lots of features that none of the other cam sites have. ClickCash can pay $40+ a free signup because they are making a lot more then that.
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Old 12-05-2005, 09:29 AM   #9
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Clickcash are a bunch of amateurs.
yeah amateurs that make more then any other adult site and have been doing it since 96'.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:01 AM   #10
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You should try our affiliate site www.otcash.com.

If you do you will recieve 50% recurring of every membership you sell which means you will get 50% of the signup fee and continue to get 50% of the monthly membership fee every month that that person stays a member.

doesnt that sound good
Oh, is that how a recurring percentage program works?

Damn I always wondered.

lol ...

this thread got spammmy real quick

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Old 12-05-2005, 10:05 AM   #11
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30% of $250 is $75.

So I need to get someone to spend $250 for me to make $75 or I get someone to spend $0 and I make $55....

From my experience, I can get 4x more free signups (w/credit card) from the same traffic then I can get someone to pay for a membership ($20 month ect). If you factor in I need the person to spend $250+, I might get 10 free signups to every $250 customer.

now if clickcash was offering me 30% I would jump on it, hell I would do it with them for 20%. They have the most chathost online (very large variety to choose from), several different ways to upsell the user, and lots of features that none of the other cam sites have. ClickCash can pay $40+ a free signup because they are making a lot more then that.
Will, you are a smart guy. You've been in doing cams for a very long time from what I know. You can get 4x more free signups from Ifriends however in the long term you still would make more money from Ifriends if they offered you a revshare option. I think revshare is good for people with traffic that don't want to put all their eggs in one basket. When you promote revshare you are a partner with the company you promote. It may take longer to make money, but after a month or two it's worth it. It's a sigh of relief knowing that after sending traffic to a program for a short while your members will keep coming back and depositing money into their account. It really does add up and I can prove it. Another plus is if someone looses their ranking on google, or something happens and they loose their traffic. No matter what happens, you will continue to make good money on your following sales for a very long time and some of your free members will come back and become paying members. I wouldn't stop sending all traffic to a PPS model, but it is very smart to invest your traffic in different payment structures. I think PPS along with revshare is a smart idea. I've done cams for 5 years now. I've launched, promoted and built some very big cam programs. I know PPS and revshare like the back of my hand. In my opinion Revshare is the best bet along with some traffic going to PPS.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:35 PM   #12
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You should try our affiliate site www.otcash.com.

If you do you will recieve 50% recurring of every membership you sell which means you will get 50% of the signup fee and continue to get 50% of the monthly membership fee every month that that person stays a member.

doesnt that sound good
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:43 PM   #13
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in sooooooooo many ways.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:55 PM   #14
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Why don't your promote me ;)
you'd make a lot more money at 30% recurring over the lifetime of the membership. Our per member value is around $250. @ 30% that is pretty good money especially when you get a whale. With that kind of money you can afford to buy a new car. And, if your traffic ever stops you will continue to make money for a while.
your cam site does not even compare to click cash, what good is revshare when conversions & retention suck. they're so good they dont even have to spam threads.
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Old 12-05-2005, 01:58 PM   #15
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I used to be #1 in sales for them way back for weeks. I never got a gift. So I don't see it happening. Sorry.
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:03 PM   #16
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clickcash sounds good !!!
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30% of $250 is $75.

So I need to get someone to spend $250 for me to make $75 or I get someone to spend $0 and I make $55....

From my experience, I can get 4x more free signups (w/credit card) from the same traffic then I can get someone to pay for a membership ($20 month ect). If you factor in I need the person to spend $250+, I might get 10 free signups to every $250 customer.

now if clickcash was offering me 30% I would jump on it, hell I would do it with them for 20%. They have the most chathost online (very large variety to choose from), several different ways to upsell the user, and lots of features that none of the other cam sites have. ClickCash can pay $40+ a free signup because they are making a lot more then that.

Pfff, I just caught a whale this past weekend. He spent 500.00 and now I have for life. 40 PPS is good but 30% through out the lifetime of a member would make you more over the long run.

I use to promote IFRIENDS and got hooked at 10 PPS back in the day and all the way up to 40 PPS. I just weened myself these past couple of months and it hurt for awhile until the follow up sales from BIG CASH CREW started kicking in.
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your cam site does not even compare to click cash, what good is revshare when conversions & retention suck. they're so good they dont even have to spam threads.
haha, did the click cash gods come down and preach to you?
Let me see here...
Who's conversions and retention suck? You can't be talking about my site because I don't know you.

They are good. They've been around for a long time. However, I know about 40 people who promote them and only 3 have someone from CC on their ICQ list. LOL That's great.
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Old 12-06-2005, 07:34 PM   #19
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Will, you are a smart guy. You've been in doing cams for a very long time from what I know. You can get 4x more free signups from Ifriends however in the long term you still would make more money from Ifriends if they offered you a revshare option. I think revshare is good for people with traffic that don't want to put all their eggs in one basket. When you promote revshare you are a partner with the company you promote. It may take longer to make money, but after a month or two it's worth it. It's a sigh of relief knowing that after sending traffic to a program for a short while your members will keep coming back and depositing money into their account. It really does add up and I can prove it. Another plus is if someone looses their ranking on google, or something happens and they loose their traffic. No matter what happens, you will continue to make good money on your following sales for a very long time and some of your free members will come back and become paying members. I wouldn't stop sending all traffic to a PPS model, but it is very smart to invest your traffic in different payment structures. I think PPS along with revshare is a smart idea. I've done cams for 5 years now. I've launched, promoted and built some very big cam programs. I know PPS and revshare like the back of my hand. In my opinion Revshare is the best bet along with some traffic going to PPS.
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I agree that people should diversify their income with some rebilling stuff. Rebilling is good incase you get sick, have a hurricane hit you LOL etc... pps sales stop but your rebilling stuff can cover your bills while you are down. Unless you own a great type-in domain name or a year long ad spot on a good site, all other advertising will dwindle if you go off line for a long time. I only suggest sending just enough traffic to a rebilling program to pay your bills, about 10% of your traffic would be a good target number.

Why I don't like rebilling. Make less, and you have to trust a comany long term with your money, and you have to wait a long time to make it. If ifriends offered it I would jump on it because I know they make a lot of money from their program. I would rather make 10% rebilling off of ifriends then 30% off of any other cam site. Even then I wouldn't send all traffic rebilling for reasons stated above.

I started with membership sites. I built my first membership site back in 99, built it myself, advertised it myself, and it generated over 100K the first year it was up and running. I created several other membership sites after that and did well with all of them, and it was all from my sales. I know both models very well. Nothing beats making $55+ a free signup. I can offer someone more content then an AVS site, more live girls then any other cam site, more features then all cams sites put together, and even free live nude shows, all for a free signup and I can market it to every niche out there about 10 diferent ways.

I also recommend loss of income insurance to everyone out there and disability insurance. If you make more then 100K a year you need these 2 things as well.
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I used to be #1 in sales for them way back for weeks. I never got a gift. So I don't see it happening. Sorry.
hunh ?? you were #1 for clickcash when ?
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hunh ?? you were #1 for clickcash when ?
Back in 2000ish when they would list the top affiliates in their showcase - how I wish the payouts were what they are now.
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Pfff, I just caught a whale this past weekend. He spent 500.00 and now I have for life. 40 PPS is good but 30% through out the lifetime of a member would make you more over the long run.

I use to promote IFRIENDS and got hooked at 10 PPS back in the day and all the way up to 40 PPS. I just weened myself these past couple of months and it hurt for awhile until the follow up sales from BIG CASH CREW started kicking in.

Pfff, congrats you caught a whale. Please explain to me how you know you get to "have him for life". Did this whale tell you that he is going to spend this $500 every week forever? LOL. come on man, you sound like you have been around for a long time but you talk like a newbie. How many "whales" spend way too much money the first couple weeks they signup and then either max out their card or shit a brick when the bill comes in the mail.

So you got a whale, how many sales did you miss because they had to spend money? You missed a lot of people who where not willing to spend $20 that would have spent $0 and made a Free membership.

Just wait till you spend YEARS building up that % deal so it surpases what you were making pps and then the company goes out of business
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Back in 2000ish when they would list the top affiliates in their showcase - how I wish the payouts were what they are now.
I must have started right after that. So how many signups were you doing a week, people back then were doing like 800++ a week.
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haha, did the click cash gods come down and preach to you?
Let me see here...
Who's conversions and retention suck? You can't be talking about my site because I don't know you.

They are good. They've been around for a long time. However, I know about 40 people who promote them and only 3 have someone from CC on their ICQ list. LOL That's great.

ICQ contacts does not equal money. Shit if I can make 2x more from a company and I never get to talk to them i would be fine with that. If you follow the rules and can have a little common sense and do things for yourself, there is no need to talk to the company.
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I know, i know, they never posted here but i'm sure they read everything related to them.

I'm doing fucking good with you since 2 months or so and my account have not been canned. That mean you are doing great with me.

I need a tv, playing games (i got an xbox but could use something different), a car (even used), computer (would love a laptop), free traffic (winner winner situation)and/or laser eye surgery (i plan to pay it myself anyway).

I wont tell others see sig for account code and a big thank you.
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Hey I heard some other cam companies were giving that away as prizes, maybe you can get lucky.
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Quit bumping this thread since i'm woring my sig this month!


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