How is it possible for new _unreleased_ albums to leak to p2p? - GoFuckYourself.com

mrthumbs · 12-03-2005, 02:26 PM

This puzzles me.. im sure there are a lot of people involved in producing a new album for Artist X. But i assume these people who have the privilige to be in that circle have better stuff to do than sharing their work / albums on kazaa.

Also i cant imagine established record labels leaking things on purpose specially before official release. Perhaps a few songs but not a full high quality album.

So what group of people that are not directly affiliated with the artist/producer/recoprd company get their hands on an album months before release and can 'afford the risk' to publish it?

Chio · 12-03-2005, 02:28 PM

People at recod companies get them way in advance. so do radio stations, etc.

After Shock Media · 12-03-2005, 02:31 PM

My guess would be the cd's need to be duplicated at a mass scale, packaged ect. and this would or more than likely does happen overseas. Despite the location that is a lot of hands on the products before it ever hits the streets.

Sebastian Sands · 12-03-2005, 02:33 PM

Record companies do it themselves. Release a few songs of the new album on a p2p network and it will create a small hype.. I think they call it marketing

After Shock Media · 12-03-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

Record companies do it themselves. Release a few songs of the new album on a p2p network and it will create a small hype.. I think they call it marketing

May want to re-read the initial post. He said he can understand a few songs but not entire albums.

Chio · 12-03-2005, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

My guess would be the cd's need to be duplicated at a mass scale, packaged ect. and this would or more than likely does happen overseas. Despite the location that is a lot of hands on the products before it ever hits the streets.

Thank you. I've been up far too long to formulate a simple sentence, let alone spell correctly. RECOD!?? WTF!

Well said.

sonofsam · 12-03-2005, 02:37 PM

I think it has to do with the theory that the outer rigid layer of the earth (the lithosphere) is divided into about a dozen " plates" that move across the earth's surface relative to each other, like slabs of ice on a lake

Sebastian Sands · 12-03-2005, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

May want to re-read the initial post. He said he can understand a few songs but not entire albums.

My bad, haven't had my coffee yet.. lol

Young · 12-03-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands

Record companies do it themselves. Release a few songs of the new album on a p2p network and it will create a small hype.. I think they call it marketing

nope. artists who have anticipated albums dont need this kind of attention, and those who don't have anticipated releases...well no one cares. Very rarely will an A&R make this slip.

The main culprit is pre-releases to radio stations. Next in line is lifted copies right out of the studio or record company. I know a couple of people from RNS...they have some connections you wouldn't believe.

Fletch XXX · 12-03-2005, 02:42 PM

i get albums months before they even come out.

Wiggles · 12-03-2005, 02:48 PM

alot of record companies will put them out with those beeps and bells in them so its not a great listen but gives a sample of the song, they are all over kazaa, not too bad on limewire.

toddler · 12-03-2005, 03:30 PM

radio stations, producers, engineers, the artist's 'friends'. about what you would expect.

E Guru · 12-03-2005, 03:32 PM

the cd goes out to friends / familys / dj's / producers / lots of people
Retards

disregard · 12-03-2005, 03:33 PM

A sony rep came into a club where I was engineering and handed me a copy of Mezmerize .. probably about 3 months before it came out. I've also got an unreleased version of OK computer with a different track order.. it's one of only 200 hand-numbered copies.

For them, it's worth giving me the copy cause I can get it spun in front of the right audiences.. but then, what's my motivation to keep it to myself?

Young · 12-03-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by E Guru

the cd goes out to friends / familys / dj's / producers / lots of people
Retards

o'rly? thank you. i feel 1000x smarter now.

BlackCrayon · 12-03-2005, 03:39 PM

whoever does it, does it with every single release by a major recording company and has been for years.

divinity · 12-03-2005, 06:39 PM

albums go through quite a few hands before they hit stores. all it takes is one person.

Martin3 · 12-03-2005, 07:03 PM

It's the 50yr old asian lady working at some sweat shop making 20 cents a day stamping out copies for the record labels.

DBS.US · 12-03-2005, 07:40 PM

50yr old asian lady

MikeVega · 12-03-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiggles

alot of record companies will put them out with those beeps and bells in them so its not a great listen but gives a sample of the song, they are all over kazaa, not too bad on limewire.

I think the labels started doing that to make it harder to get a good copy ... once it's leaked they dump a million bad copies with similar titles on the P2P to mask the good ones .. this way you have to download 30 copies to find a good one ... most people give up

wedouglas · 12-03-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

My guess would be the cd's need to be duplicated at a mass scale, packaged ect. and this would or more than likely does happen overseas. Despite the location that is a lot of hands on the products before it ever hits the streets.

what he said. they have to start pressing and such months in advance.

kane · 12-04-2005, 03:08 AM

It's really pretty simple how it happens. The record companies start sending out the albums to radio stations for play and magazines/newspapers for reviews a while before the come out to help create a buzz. If it's a major artist they could easily send out seveal thousand advance copies to these places. All it takes is a couple of people ripping it to MP3 and putting it up.

I used to write for a music magazine and I would get 20-40 CD's a week in the mail from record companies wanting me to review them. Funny thing was I would maybe review 2 a month. Many of these record companies would send a copy to everyone on the staff at the magazine hoping someone would write about it. I would keep the ones I want and once a month take the extra crap to a record store and sell it. So often time the record store would get my "advanced" copies and sell them used before the actual album came out.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It's really pretty simple how it happens. The record companies start sending out the albums to radio stations for play and magazines/newspapers for reviews a while before the come out to help create a buzz. If it's a major artist they could easily send out seveal thousand advance copies to these places. All it takes is a couple of people ripping it to MP3 and putting it up. I used to write for a music magazine and I would get 20-40 CD's a week in the mail from record companies wanting me to review them. Funny thing was I would maybe review 2 a month. Many of these record companies would send a copy to everyone on the staff at the magazine hoping someone would write about it. I would keep the ones I want and once a month take the extra crap to a record store and sell it. So often time the record store would get my "advanced" copies and sell them used before the actual album came out.