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Matt 26z 12-03-2005 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sltr
this is a classic gfy post :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/nation...age041029.html

Yes, I know of that tape.

I'll repeat it again, Al-Qaeda has never claimed responsibility for 9/11.

His words in that tape were taken by some that he was implying they did 9/11, but he was very far from coming right out and saying it. They have in fact denied it all along.

Until he comes out and says "We were responsible for 9/11" I will believe others may have been involved along with members of Al-Qaeda.

Basic_man 12-03-2005 11:08 AM

This is still a shitty story ! Bush should deserve to die !!!!!!

Matt 26z 12-03-2005 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck
Just because you dont understand why certain glass doesnt break or why a plane can disintegrate doesnt mean something is wrong and the goverment is lying.

Please, clue us in.

Does ANYONE here have a link explaining why glass to the left of the hole didn't break when that is the exact spot the wing should have smashed into?

I don't see how that can be explained.

I have read many sites trying to debunk the conspiracy theories, and many do a pretty good job..... But they leave out the fact that the hole at the Pentagon wasn't big enough to swallow up the wings also. The wing debris should be on the outside of the building, yet there is nothing there and there is no wing damage to the building.

MattO 12-03-2005 11:21 AM

People who believe in these crackpot conspiracies are complete idiots. It's always gotta be some fuckin' X-files shit, "ooo it's not a fucking plane, it's a secret missle, ooo, I saw a video on the net made by a guy with a degree so it's gotta be true" (degree in assfuckery, most likely)

It's a slap in the face to the people who died on Flight 77 and in the Pentagon.

sltr 12-03-2005 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Yes, I know of that tape.

I'll repeat it again, Al-Qaeda has never claimed responsibility for 9/11.

His words in that tape were taken by some that he was implying they did 9/11, but he was very far from coming right out and saying it. They have in fact denied it all along.

Until he comes out and says "We were responsible for 9/11" I will believe others may have been involved along with members of Al-Qaeda.

Bin Laden: Yes, I did it
By David Bamber
(Filed: 11/11/2001)

OSAMA BIN LADEN has for the first time admitted that his al-Qa'eda group carried out the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the Telegraph can reveal.
Osama bin Laden with journalist Hamid Mir during the interview for a Pakistani newspaper

In a previously undisclosed video which has been circulating for 14 days among his supporters, he confesses that "history should be a witness that we are terrorists. Yes, we kill their innocents".

In the footage, shot in the Afghan mountains at the end of October, a smiling bin Laden goes on to say that the World Trade Centre's twin towers were a "legitimate target" and the pilots who hijacked the planes were "blessed by Allah".
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne.../11/wbin11.xml

sltr 12-03-2005 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Please, clue us in.

Does ANYONE here have a link explaining why glass to the left of the hole didn't break when that is the exact spot the wing should have smashed into?

I don't see how that can be explained.

I have read many sites trying to debunk the conspiracy theories, and many do a pretty good job..... But they leave out the fact that the hole at the Pentagon wasn't big enough to swallow up the wings also. The wing debris should be on the outside of the building, yet there is nothing there and there is no wing damage to the building.

please explain the physics of a 50 ton airplane loaded with jet fuel going 600 mph crashing into one of the most fortified buildings in the world then

crowkid 12-03-2005 11:33 AM

ahhh, good comedy for a Saturday, thanks kooks! :1orglaugh

Matt 26z 12-03-2005 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sltr
Bin Laden: Yes, I did it
By David Bamber
(Filed: 11/11/2001)

OSAMA BIN LADEN has for the first time admitted that his al-Qa'eda group carried out the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the Telegraph can reveal.
Osama bin Laden with journalist Hamid Mir during the interview for a Pakistani newspaper

In a previously undisclosed video which has been circulating for 14 days among his supporters, he confesses that "history should be a witness that we are terrorists. Yes, we kill their innocents".

In the footage, shot in the Afghan mountains at the end of October, a smiling bin Laden goes on to say that the World Trade Centre's twin towers were a "legitimate target" and the pilots who hijacked the planes were "blessed by Allah".
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne.../11/wbin11.xml

Nowhere in that video does he claim responsibility. What you are seeing is him praising the destruction. Not an admission that he did it.

Matt 26z 12-03-2005 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sltr
please explain the physics of a 50 ton airplane loaded with jet fuel going 600 mph crashing into one of the most fortified buildings in the world then

What are you getting at?

If it was a plane, then obviously the building wasn't as fortified as you think. I believe documentaries have all stated that the Pentagon wasn't all that strong since it was built in a hurry so long ago.

Besides, the fuel is stored in the wings. While it has been proven that the body could have fit through that hole, nobody has explained how the wings could have.

rip raster 12-03-2005 11:48 AM

you will probably never know the whole truth, speculation is all you will ever have.

woj 12-03-2005 11:48 AM

50........... :)

sltr 12-03-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
What are you getting at?

If it was a plane, then obviously the building wasn't as fortified as you think. I believe documentaries have all stated that the Pentagon wasn't all that strong since it was built in a hurry so long ago.

Besides, the fuel is stored in the wings. While it has been proven that the body could have fit through that hole, nobody has explained how the wings could have.

simply getting at the fact that you really have absolutely no idea what you are talking about-
1. the pentagon is completley fortified with concrete and stone and was designed and built to withstand bomb blasts

2. educated people who understand science have agreed that the structure of the plane did relatively zero damage to the pentagon- the majority of the damage was from the mass moving at high velocity.

"At that speed, the plane itself is like a sausage skin," Sozen said. "It doesn't have much strength and virtually crumbles on impact."

The plane's structure caused relatively little damage, and the explosion and fire that resulted from the crash also are not likely to have been dominant factors in the disaster, Sozen said.

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/html4....Pentagon.html

DaddyHalbucks 12-03-2005 11:57 AM

So, a bunch of online pornographers are suddenly forensics experts?

pornguy 12-03-2005 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Manowar
There is always the theory that the US govt. didn't actually orchastrate it, they just knew about it and let it happen.



And this is the theory that I believe.

This goes right along with the bombing or pearl. They new it was comming, and even made sure that it could happen. Did nothing, and walked thier declaration of war right through congress.

pornguy 12-03-2005 12:01 PM

The only thing that I question about the Pentagon being hit, is that there are surface to air missles there. I know that for a fact, because a friends fathers company installed them.

broke 12-03-2005 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Please, clue us in.

Does ANYONE here have a link explaining why glass to the left of the hole didn't break when that is the exact spot the wing should have smashed into?

I don't see how that can be explained.

I have read many sites trying to debunk the conspiracy theories, and many do a pretty good job..... But they leave out the fact that the hole at the Pentagon wasn't big enough to swallow up the wings also. The wing debris should be on the outside of the building, yet there is nothing there and there is no wing damage to the building.

Christ -- have you ever seen what happens to the structure of an aircraft at high speed when it hits a concrete wall? Pick out the large pieces...

http://www.sandia.gov/videos2005/F4-crash.asx

sltr 12-03-2005 12:18 PM

quick question to conspiracy theorists-

If American Airlines Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did happen to the jetliner and all its passengers?

broke 12-03-2005 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr
If American Airlines Flight 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, what did happen to the jetliner and all its passengers?


I'm sure AA as well as the spouses I've met personally would like to know too...

sltr 12-03-2005 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by broke
I'm sure AA as well as the spouses I've met personally would like to know too...

whatever happened to flight 77- they grabbed the black boxes from it and stashed them at the crash site
http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn...5FAPboxes.html

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2005 12:43 PM

To explain the "strange" things like unbroken glass you have to examine each discrepancy by itself instead of wrapping 20 unknown questions into 1.

The pentagon uses bullet proof glass , and is designed to withstand a hurricane.. Thats one possible explanation.. plus theres a video of the plane hiting the pentagon..

SmokeyTheBear 12-03-2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
So, a bunch of online pornographers are suddenly forensics experts?

Some people have 2 jobs, or a hobby.

Jay_StandAhead 12-03-2005 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
plus theres a video of the plane hiting the pentagon..


just post the video so everyone can shut up and admit a plane hit the pentagon

SilentKnight 12-03-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
The pentagon uses bullet proof glass , and is designed to withstand a hurricane.. Thats one possible explanation.. plus theres a video of the plane hiting the pentagon..

Wouldn't mind seein' that - got a link?

SilentKnight 12-03-2005 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks
So, a bunch of online pornographers are suddenly forensics experts?

Yeah, really. Gawd forbid any of us have college and/or university degrees on here. We'd have our porn union memberships revoked.

xcitecash 12-03-2005 01:00 PM

Has anyone read David Icke's Book on 911

The guy is seen here in UK as a real nutter
all he does is accumilate different facts (if you believe) but makes a good read and very believable

anyone read the thermite story ????

baddog 12-03-2005 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man
This is still a shitty story ! Bush should deserve to die !!!!!!

Are are Quebecites so ignorant?

Young 12-03-2005 03:31 PM

I didnt' have time to read this whole thread.

I don't believe the U.S. carried out the attacks....I simply believe they new about it. and let it happen.

broke 12-03-2005 03:32 PM

I'd love to know how many of these conspiracy twits have had family members from AA 77 burst into years on their shoulders...

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Young 12-03-2005 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by broke
Chicago Bears 8-3

Overrrrraaaatteeeeeeeed.

broke 12-03-2005 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Young
Overrrrraaaatteeeeeeeed.

I didn't rate them, asshat.

:winkwink:

That's their record. You must be a Seahawks fan....

broke 12-03-2005 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
the Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling


Next time you add something of value will be the FIRST time, Donnie.

Young 12-03-2005 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by broke
I didn't rate them, asshat.

:winkwink:

That's their record. You must be a Seahawks fan....

nooo patriots fan. and i know you didn't rate them. I'm just saying...everyone is over rating them.

split_joel 12-03-2005 03:58 PM

missles no a small f15 or f18 yes

broke 12-03-2005 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
nooo patriots fan. and i know you didn't rate them. I'm just saying...everyone is over rating them.

The NFC isn't all that deep... we shall see.
(I know they'd kick the shit out of the Pats.)

;)


Ya'll in any position to make a playoff run?

CheeseFrog 12-03-2005 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Please, clue us in.

Does ANYONE here have a link explaining why glass to the left of the hole didn't break when that is the exact spot the wing should have smashed into?

I don't see how that can be explained.

I have read many sites trying to debunk the conspiracy theories, and many do a pretty good job..... But they leave out the fact that the hole at the Pentagon wasn't big enough to swallow up the wings also. The wing debris should be on the outside of the building, yet there is nothing there and there is no wing damage to the building.

Just out of curiosity, what kind of wreckage are you expecting to see? Complete chunks of wing? Maybe fragments of fusalage that resemble pieces of an airplane? How many actual plane wreckages hae you seen?

Most of the conspiracy theory subscribers I've talked to seem to have a "Tom & Jerry" mentality when it comes to objects striking a wall. Ie. When Tom goes flying through a wall, there's a cat-shaped hole in the wall. Sorry folks, but that's not how things work in the real world.

BTW, do you honestly think that a facility like the Pentagon uses regular glass for windows?

Dirty F 12-03-2005 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseFrog
Just out of curiosity, what kind of wreckage are you expecting to see? Complete chunks of wing? Maybe fragments of fusalage that resemble pieces of an airplane? How many actual plane wreckages hae you seen?

Most of the conspiracy theory subscribers I've talked to seem to have a "Tom & Jerry" mentality when it comes to objects striking a wall. Ie. When Tom goes flying through a wall, there's a cat-shaped hole in the wall. Sorry folks, but that's not how things work in the real world.

BTW, do you honestly think that a facility like the Pentagon uses regular glass for windows?


They use special coated glass, expensive as fuck that stays together in 1 piece rather than a million small pieces.
The window could be completely broken but the coating simply keeps it together. Its no secret. You can read about it anywhere but these idiots dont want to know that shit.

Machete_ 12-03-2005 04:13 PM

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CheeseFrog 12-03-2005 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck
They use special coated glass, expensive as fuck that stays together in 1 piece rather than a million small pieces.
The window could be completely broken but the coating simply keeps it together. Its no secret. You can read about it anywhere but these idiots dont want to know that shit.

I always hear from foreigners about "stupid Americans" and I really never gave it much thought. I just passed it off as jealousy :P But after reading these threads about people asking "Why aren't there holes in the building where the wing supposedly struck?" I can fully unstand why they think Americans are stupid *sigh*

Dirty F 12-03-2005 04:18 PM

Isnt it sad that people base conpiracy theories on idiotic things like the window didnt break. The reason why is totally explainable but they simply refuse to read about this. They dont bother thinking of a reason why or searching it up. Crazy. Instead they prefer to scream and yell about conspiracy crap.

shatter-resistant glass. Bomb proof glass. Please search it up these terms and then slap yourself in the face for being so ignorant.


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