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Old 12-02-2005, 12:40 PM   #1
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SEO Tip #4 n/c

No "shotgunning" of clicks:

source > free site > gallery > sponsor = BAD

blog-to-blog links are double-plus-good

if you were a spider, with an eye for "value-add" what would you make of the above?

A: "nothing to index here"

better this:

source > blog post > blog page > off-blog gallery > [insert affil ref link] > sponsor



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Old 12-02-2005, 01:18 PM   #2
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domain with an fpa going straight to sponsor works for me.
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Old 12-02-2005, 01:29 PM   #3
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No "shotgunning" of clicks:

source > free site > gallery > sponsor = BAD

blog-to-blog links are double-plus-good

if you were a spider, with an eye for "value-add" what would you make of the above?

A: "nothing to index here"

better this:

source > blog post > blog page > off-blog gallery > [insert affil ref link] > sponsor



2hp

Trying to make friends or make money?
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Old 12-02-2005, 01:39 PM   #4
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No "shotgunning" of clicks:

source > free site > gallery > sponsor = BAD

blog-to-blog links are double-plus-good

if you were a spider, with an eye for "value-add" what would you make of the above?

A: "nothing to index here"

better this:

source > blog post > blog page > off-blog gallery > [insert affil ref link] > sponsor



2hp
thanks for the tip yo.
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Old 12-02-2005, 01:46 PM   #5
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Old 12-02-2005, 01:52 PM   #6
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I'm convinced there should be an SEO subforum on GFY
there are a million other forums for that.

nice post. valuable for new sites....but for my existing traffic ill stick with method #1
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Old 12-02-2005, 02:59 PM   #7
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:16 AM   #8
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Trying to make friends or make money?
lol -- neither, not directly, anyway --

funny thing happens when you raise up an idea above all other things, betraying it neither for money nor because "friends" ask you to -- you find yourself wanting for neither friends nor money --- and -- without (karmic) debt --


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Old 12-03-2005, 01:04 AM   #9
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:00 AM   #10
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where's #1 #2 #3 tips? i missed it.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:45 AM   #11
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Not really bad. It works, just not as well.
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Old 12-03-2005, 06:49 AM   #12
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where's #1 #2 #3 tips? i missed it.
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=SEO+Tip
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=SEO+Tip
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...hlight=SEO+Tip
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:05 AM   #13
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No "shotgunning" of clicks:

source > free site > gallery > sponsor = BAD

blog-to-blog links are double-plus-good

if you were a spider, with an eye for "value-add" what would you make of the above?

A: "nothing to index here"

better this:

source > blog post > blog page > off-blog gallery > [insert affil ref link] > sponsor

2hp
I guess that tip is okay if you're a stupid ass noob trying to jack $3 worth of clicks from search engines with your fake blogs.

If a site got good content, spiders don't give a how deep it's burried. They gonna index it and put a good value on it.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:08 AM   #14
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I guess that tip is okay if you're a stupid ass noob trying to jack $3 worth of clicks from search engines with your fake blogs.

If a site got good content, spiders don't give a how deep it's burried. They gonna index it and put a good value on it.
I think you agree with me. But the spider cannot go to pages you don't link to, and will not see that "good content". The only exception I have found to that is if you link to an object (like an image, or any file that cannot be internally crawled), Google will check to see if there is an index file in that folder.

For example, I hot link to apple.jpg which sits in a folder called /ROP1/ on domain 7angel.com -- the spider will look for an index.html or an index.php in 7angel.com/ROP1/ to see if the information on that page (if it is there) can tell it anything about the nature of 7angel.com/ROP1/apple.jpg.

Google needs your help. When you tell it something it doesn't know it rewards you. The reason to avoid "shotgunning" (and again, this is ONLY if SE traffic is important to you) is as follows:

1. Google craves description so that it might confidently deliver well-described items to searchers and improve relevancy and therefore user satisfaction.

2. If you are like most porn webmasters, with a dinky little site and a folder full of images that Google has no reason in the world to trust are what you say they are, you are going to be ignored. Simple as that.

3. When you "shotgun", which is:
A searcher for XYZ clicks on your site in the SERP, and 2 clicks later he is on XYZ.com
you are USELESS to Google. You have added ZERO DESCRIPTION. There is no reason in the world Google shouldn't simply BYPASS you and deliver that searcher directly to the thing he wants.

If, on the other hand, you have hotlinked an image about which Google already knows something (because it is indexed) and you tell the spider something it does not know, it's going to like you, it's going to crawl more of your pages, to see if you are performikng that service for any other objects.

The spider is stupid. The spider is an alien.


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Old 12-03-2005, 11:16 AM   #15
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The spider is stupid. The spider is an alien.
That's my favorite part. Thanks for the tip, I agree with you
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