designers black list or don't work with such people

[mammy]

ok little drama
i know i am not perfect and there are delays in my work
but i am tired of those fuckers who don't pay for the work that have been done
telling " u will have money tomorrow tomorrow" and so on

so i have done different work for the guy U5A aol nickname
we were doing www.discountmags.com

we were doing design and putting design in his programming
we have delays
but then when work was done he told he will pay on monday
then on monday told in couple of days
then in couple of days that he will pay on thursday
then on thursday he didn't appear online
and only appeared in a week or so
telling that he will not pay full amount


price for additional work wasn't so much 100 usd

but i see no reason when people trying to be assfuckers to save 50usd
work was estimated
price was ok
he accepted work
tell he will pay
and then after couple of weeks he told that he will not pay

i disagreed to take half amount
and now i have no cash from him

so the person must be blacklisted
and i suggest all designers not to work with him
any other designers who have problems with some clients can post here
so the thread will have black list of such people

thanx

[EdgeXXX]

That sucks, sorry to hear that. That's why we usually require 50% up front.

[BlueWire]

you need a better payment system

[jack.nasty]

this guy make your looks like a little child.
His name is Michael, he lives in philadelphia and his ICQ is:94882468
Look for the search and you will see how far this bitch went.

;)

[mammy]

thing is i take payment upfront
full project costed bout 600 usd
so the 100 usd was the last payment for small design improvements and programming things

and this part wasn't paid

[EdgeXXX]

Oh..... well, at least you got the other $500, right?

[ChewbaCreative]

bmp for you, man!
let's stop these motherfuckers!

[$tandaman]

U5A asked me to get work done on that site too.. guess he ended up with you.. F Him!

[mammy]

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Oh..... well, at least you got the other $500, right?

yeah
i could have 550
cause he offered to pay half of he had too
but i prefer to loose 100 usd
but to blacklist such people
then take the half and shut my mouth

[shima]

Thanks Mammy. Name added.

[mammy]

ok he sent cash
so we can


CLOSE THE TOPIC

problem is solved

as always after dramas on boards
thanx everyone

[galleryseek]

actually mammy you're completely fucking wrong. i know U5A and I know the story.

you even admitted you didn't complete the work on time. it was requested to be done on MONDAY, YOU AGREED, and it wasn't done till FRIDAY. he wanted to push a THANKSGIVING campaign but you fucked him over by not finishing it the date you SAID YOU WOULD.

So he doesn't owe you SHIT, and you should have been happy with the $50 you got.

Learn how business works before you start shit and act tough, ok idiot?


fucking moron.

[mammy]

fucking moron?
may be u will have to read the whole chat ha?
all programming and design was done
onl;y couple of tables didn;t have background color
i don't think it was reason not to start promo company

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by mammy

fucking moron?
may be u will have to read the whole chat ha?
all programming and design was done
onl;y couple of tables didn;t have background color
i don't think it was reason not to start promo company

it's not finished until it's fully finished. finish the work completely on time, and you wouldn't have problems like this.

[mammy]

galleryseek
if u are trying to teach me biz
make sence for u to start doing it yourself
making portfolio site in flash 8
when not so many people have the plugin is the good way to find clients

[mammy]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

it's not finished until it's fully finished. finish the work completely on time, and you wouldn't have problems like this.

make sence for u to teach reading
i posted that we have delay in work
yes we have some fault
but when work was done and accepted
i was told i will recieve money
tomorrow
then in two days
then tomorrow again
and then hiding for a week and no news bout cash

so after delay there was sence for him before sending cash to tell that he was going to cut part because if delay
but when he told he will pay all
and then hiding for couple of weeks
starting telling bout delays
how poor he is and so on is not a good way of making biz

[NickPapageorgio]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

it's not finished until it's fully finished. finish the work completely on time, and you wouldn't have problems like this.

Your logo work is tight dude. I dig that shit.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by mammy

galleryseek
if u are trying to teach me biz
make sence for u to start doing it yourself
making portfolio site in flash 8
when not so many people have the plugin is the good way to find clients

oh so you want to make it personal now eh? first off, my main portfolio site isn't in flash 8, second off my extended logo portfolio IS because I just got it and wanted to start messing around with it. doesn't matter much to me because I get enough logo requests as is.

now here's a critique for you... my buddy U5A showed me the pizza site you made for his sister.. http://www.pizzeriazia.com/

LOL, after looking at it again, you know what, I'm not even going to bother ripping it to shreds because it's that pathetic. but let me say this, don't start talking shit to someone who could school you in a second. jesus christ that site is ugly.

[dig420]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

oh so you want to make it personal now eh? first off, my main portfolio site isn't in flash 8, second off my extended logo portfolio IS because I just got it and wanted to start messing around with it. doesn't matter much to me because I get enough logo requests as is.

now here's a critique for you... my buddy U5A showed me the pizza site you made for his sister.. http://www.pizzeriazia.com/

LOL, after looking at it again, you know what, I'm not even going to bother ripping it to shreds because it's that pathetic. but let me say this, don't start talking shit to someone who could school you in a second. jesus christ that site is ugly.

I have to say, that's not too damn impressive.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by mammy

make sence for u to teach reading
i posted that we have delay in work
yes we have some fault
but when work was done and accepted
i was told i will recieve money
tomorrow
then in two days
then tomorrow again
and then hiding for a week and no news bout cash

so after delay there was sence for him before sending cash to tell that he was going to cut part because if delay
but when he told he will pay all
and then hiding for couple of weeks
starting telling bout delays
how poor he is and so on is not a good way of making biz

you're going to tell me iiii need to learn how to read? you can hardly put together sentances that make any sense...

and let me ask you a question, why is it that he reacted that way? it's because of your fuckup, your 5 day delay, your fault, YOU caused it. be a man and accept that you didn't fully finish the project on the agreed upon time. he sent you half of the $100 for that fuck up. you certainly didn't deserve all of it, that's for sure.

[mammy]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

and let me ask you a question, why is it that he reacted that way? it's because of your fuckup, your 5 day delay, your fault, YOU caused it. be a man and accept that you didn't fully finish the project on the agreed upon time. he sent you half of the $100 for that fuck up. you certainly didn't deserve all of it, that's for sure.

so if i delayed and done the work
he can hide and don';t send me cash for weeks or what?
i don't see any sence

cause of delay price of work hadto be agreed when he was going to pay

not after hiding for a week

and i don't have 5 day delay

only 2 persons know the truth
its him and i
eveyone has its own vision of a problem
so u can't argue cause u don't know everything
u have only his words
we were doing work
we haven't done background tables on one page
and different things he find out then
after delay - on saturday and told us to fix
but my programmer ddidn't work on weekend so we have fixed on monday
so not all our fault in delay

many things were told us to be fixed after delay
so i suggest u not to say things u don't know for sure, ok?

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by mammy

so if i delayed and done the work
he can hide and don';t send me cash for weeks or what?
i don't see any sence

cause of delay price of work hadto be agreed when he was going to pay

not after hiding for a week

and i don't have 5 day delay

only 2 persons know the truth
its him and i
eveyone has its own vision of a problem
so u can't argue cause u don't know everything
u have only his words
we were doing work
we haven't done background tables on one page
and different things he find out then
after delay - on saturday and told us to fix
but my programmer ddidn't work on weekend so we have fixed on monday
so not all our fault in delay

many things were told us to be fixed after delay
so i suggest u not to say things u don't know for sure, ok?

if you didn't halfass shit, there would have been no need for him to tell you to fix things.

stop being a cry baby, crying over a fucking measily $50 on a msgboard you didn't even deserve.

the initial agreement was for you to do the WHOLE site, and he was being nice offering you another $100 because you forgot to do the members area.

[mammy]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

oh so you want to make it personal now eh?

u are telling that i am idiot and fucking moron and don';t want to make it personal? its really strange

Originally Posted by galleryseek

now here's a critique for you... my buddy U5A showed me the pizza site you made for his sister.. http://www.pizzeriazia.com/

LOL, after looking at it again, you know what, I'm not even going to bother ripping it to shreds because it's that pathetic. but let me say this, don't start talking shit to someone who could school you in a second. jesus christ that site is ugly.

again
if u don';t know situation than keep silence

my version was such www.reflectedideas.com/works/temp/5b.jpg
and work was accepted and i have done html

then i recieved instructions to redo whole site according to his siter psd

so its not my layout and u can't critique it ok?
u can take any work from my portfolio and try to tell that is bullshit
we will see what GFY will tell bout it

[mammy]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

if you didn't halfass shit, there would have been no need for him to tell you to fix things.

stop being a cry baby, crying over a fucking measily $50 on a msgboard you didn't even deserve.

the initial agreement was for you to do the WHOLE site, and he was being nice offering you another $100 because you forgot to do the members area.

additional 100 usd was not for design thing
but some design work was involved but in programming also
i paid programmer 100 usd for this work from my own cash
so i have reasons to cry over 100 usd not 50

again situation is solved and i got my cash now
so don't think that it make sence to bump this thread again and again

[neverlearn]

it's not finished until it's fully finished. finish the work completely on time, and you wouldn't have problems like this.


Best point, shit happens.

[Mister B]

bump here for end of drama ;)