Is it normal/legal for a host to ask for a Photo ID? - GoFuckYourself.com

SeniorX · 12-01-2005, 04:41 AM

I've been an EV1 client for years... so I ordered a new server with them this week, but this time they suddenly asked for Photo ID to activate it.

Usually this wouldn't be a problem, but I've a been good client of EV1/rackshack for over 3 years and this made me feel both disappointed.... and also worried, cuz I remembered how the photos of people arrested for using prostitutes were posted on internet in some US state - maybe Bush wants to do same with adult webmasters followed by a list of domains they run? Or is this a normal requirement by hosts and I'm overreacting?

FlogTheLog · 12-01-2005, 04:43 AM

never happened to me

SeniorX · 12-01-2005, 04:52 AM

hasn't happened to me neither... that's why it's kinda scary... specially as I verified the account by phone at first and everything was ok, but when I added a domain containing "sex", I got an e-mail asking to send Photo ID for verification or the whole account will get closed in 24 hours.

Nookster · 12-01-2005, 04:55 AM

ya i'de bet they will start a type of online mugshot database of pornographic related webmasters and shit for sure.

diggy · 12-01-2005, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SeniorX

hasn't happened to me neither... that's why it's kinda scary... specially as I verified the account by phone at first and everything was ok, but when I added a domain containing "sex", I got an e-mail asking to send Photo ID for verification or the whole account will get closed in 24 hours.

Vlad · 12-01-2005, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SeniorX

hasn't happened to me neither... that's why it's kinda scary... specially as I verified the account by phone at first and everything was ok, but when I added a domain containing "sex", I got an e-mail asking to send Photo ID for verification or the whole account will get closed in 24 hours.

Photo ID for verification or the whole account will get closed in 24 hours. ?!

you better leave them ASAP

SeniorX · 12-01-2005, 05:14 AM

I'll try to get to the bottom of the reason first... but the 24 hour deadline is certainly forceful tactics as the DNS can take 72 hours to redirect, so they know most existing clients would prefer sending the ID to getting downtime.

woj · 12-01-2005, 05:23 AM

first time I heard of a host doing something like that...

V_RocKs · 12-01-2005, 05:25 AM

Some places do it... Others do not... Usually it is only when you want shell/root access because they are supposed to keep those records when you do... (thanks to Kevin Mitnik)...

chodadog · 12-01-2005, 05:25 AM

Scan your ID, but photochop some random face into it.

DutchTeenCash · 12-01-2005, 05:28 AM

some do

if you got nuffin to hide ynot

Dirty Dane · 12-01-2005, 05:44 AM

Can understand showing photo ID makes sense with bigger payments, but that should not have anything to do with what kind of website you run, only the payment. Thats odd.
Its not legal either to keep photo IDs without your acceptance... at least not here. I'd back off, if I were you.

Grapesoda · 12-01-2005, 05:45 AM

getting that way with so much CC fraud . . . . no big deal

cool1 · 12-01-2005, 05:48 AM

Its never happened to me either.
I can see why they would ask though,
with so many asshole crooks out there.

And I don't see a problem with giving them a copy of my photo ID.
I have nothing to hide, this is after all a business.

xclusive · 12-01-2005, 06:04 AM

very strange that they did it right after you added a sex domain maybe an extra layer of age verification?

12-01-2005, 06:22 AM

Hell, I had a registrar ask me to do that.

I opened up an account and bought 7 or 8 domains within a week and they locked my account for fraud. They wanted to call the number I had on my account, but trouble is I am hardly ever home, so I kept missing their call. They would not specify a time they would call, so I'm sure as fuck not going to sit around all day waiting for namecheap to call me over $80 worth of domains. And they won't let you call them, which is bullshit. They don't even provide a phone number for support.

So I asked if there was any other way to do it, so I had to send in a copy of my driver's license. Pain in the ass. Apparently lots of other people get hit with that too.

Screaming · 12-01-2005, 07:13 AM

Never heard of anything like that before.

spacedog · 12-01-2005, 07:21 AM

webair asked for mine initially when they thought I was purchasing a dedicated server. I didnt have to furnish it, because I got a virtual account, but I think it's only required for those buying dedicated servers

bigdog · 12-01-2005, 07:27 AM

first time i have heard of that, move to a new host if you don't want to give your id

rowan · 12-01-2005, 08:53 AM

I had the same happen when I wanted to order a second server at servermatrix. I'd say it's more to do with preventing CC fraud.

Quickdraw · 12-01-2005, 09:01 AM

I think you will see a lot more of this. When my card numbers were taken, the first thing they bought were domains and hosting, lots of domains and various hosting from around the world.

JD · 12-01-2005, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by spacedog

webair asked for mine initially when they thought I was purchasing a dedicated server. I didnt have to furnish it, because I got a virtual account, but I think it's only required for those buying dedicated servers

weird. I got virtual from webair and had to send in mine

IceMaster · 12-01-2005, 09:23 AM

Some hosting sites asked mine too. Webair for example.

directfiesta · 12-01-2005, 09:34 AM

ISPs Fear Porn Regulations

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Suddenly, ISPs are beginning to fear they may be caught in the middle, despite the protection they should receive under due process.
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the new law may allow ISPs to be held accountable for age verification as well, as Gonzales continues to demand that anyone touching a pornographic image must know the model's age.

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This documentation would then be subject to random government searches. If the site came under federal scrutiny, its ISP may be required to release identity information for the site?s owner.

They are going a step further to protect their asses ... can't blame them

fallenmuffin · 12-01-2005, 09:56 AM

Hmm, I had to give photo id to webair when setting up my hosting..

EDIT: Webair has been good so far I run clean adult sites and have nothing to hide. I found it odd but whatever it takes to keep my sites up and the money rolling ;)

ionic · 12-01-2005, 10:01 AM

I had to do the same thing when i ordered an EV1 server, my site is mainstream and has no adult content but they still required photo ID.

Its just a preventative measure for credit card fraud, porn doesnt factor in it at all.

Adultnet · 12-01-2005, 10:05 AM

Just tell them that you are an old customer of them and you don't want to waste time on sending them a copy of your id.

Doctor Dre · 12-01-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by evildick

Hell, I had a registrar ask me to do that.

I opened up an account and bought 7 or 8 domains within a week and they locked my account for fraud. They wanted to call the number I had on my account, but trouble is I am hardly ever home, so I kept missing their call. They would not specify a time they would call, so I'm sure as fuck not going to sit around all day waiting for namecheap to call me over $80 worth of domains. And they won't let you call them, which is bullshit. They don't even provide a phone number for support.

So I asked if there was any other way to do it, so I had to send in a copy of my driver's license. Pain in the ass. Apparently lots of other people get hit with that too.

TY ... I'l move all my domains out of namecheap asap

split_joel · 12-01-2005, 10:08 AM

The reason why they ask for a photo ID is to pervent frud and spam. its not that big of a deal.

Martin3 · 12-01-2005, 10:15 AM

I had to send Webair a copy of mine for SSH access on a virtual account once.
It's for fruad and security measures, nothing to really worry about. Bush isn't going to come to your door and hand you a bible or anything

Ycaza · 12-01-2005, 10:30 AM

Guys, I have been in this business for some time. I have had friendly relations with FBI, local authorities and the Secret Service. None of them has asked me to provide any info like this to them. I would not see a need to ask you for it.

Quickdraw · 12-01-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ycaza

Guys, I have been in this business for some time. I have had friendly relations with FBI, local authorities and the Secret Service. None of them has asked me to provide any info like this to them. I would not see a need to ask you for it.

Maybe ev1 and others feel a need to know who is really using their servers.
In case you missed it, EV1 was the spot that a huge keylogging network was uploading everyones credit card info among other personal information

12-01-2005, 04:41 AM	#1
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	Is it normal/legal for a host to ask for a Photo ID? I've been an EV1 client for years... so I ordered a new server with them this week, but this time they suddenly asked for Photo ID to activate it. Usually this wouldn't be a problem, but I've a been good client of EV1/rackshack for over 3 years and this made me feel both disappointed.... and also worried, cuz I remembered how the photos of people arrested for using prostitutes were posted on internet in some US state - maybe Bush wants to do same with adult webmasters followed by a list of domains they run? Or is this a normal requirement by hosts and I'm overreacting?

12-01-2005, 04:55 AM	#4
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12-01-2005, 05:23 AM	#8
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	first time I heard of a host doing something like that... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

12-01-2005, 05:25 AM	#10
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Scan your ID, but photochop some random face into it. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1

12-01-2005, 05:28 AM	#11
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12-01-2005, 04:43 AM	#2
FlogTheLog CuriousToyBoys Little Bitch Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 3,842	never happened to me

12-01-2005, 04:52 AM	#3
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	hasn't happened to me neither... that's why it's kinda scary... specially as I verified the account by phone at first and everything was ok, but when I added a domain containing "sex", I got an e-mail asking to send Photo ID for verification or the whole account will get closed in 24 hours.

12-01-2005, 05:14 AM	#7
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	I'll try to get to the bottom of the reason first... but the 24 hour deadline is certainly forceful tactics as the DNS can take 72 hours to redirect, so they know most existing clients would prefer sending the ID to getting downtime.

12-01-2005, 05:25 AM	#9
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,422	Some places do it... Others do not... Usually it is only when you want shell/root access because they are supposed to keep those records when you do... (thanks to Kevin Mitnik)...

12-01-2005, 05:44 AM	#12
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Can understand showing photo ID makes sense with bigger payments, but that should not have anything to do with what kind of website you run, only the payment. Thats odd. Its not legal either to keep photo IDs without your acceptance... at least not here. I'd back off, if I were you.

12-01-2005, 05:45 AM	#13
Grapesoda So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montana Posts: 46,238	getting that way with so much CC fraud . . . . no big deal

12-01-2005, 05:48 AM	#14
cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	Its never happened to me either. I can see why they would ask though, with so many asshole crooks out there. And I don't see a problem with giving them a copy of my photo ID. I have nothing to hide, this is after all a business. __________________

12-01-2005, 06:04 AM	#15
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	very strange that they did it right after you added a sex domain maybe an extra layer of age verification? __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

12-01-2005, 06:22 AM	#16
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Hell, I had a registrar ask me to do that. I opened up an account and bought 7 or 8 domains within a week and they locked my account for fraud. They wanted to call the number I had on my account, but trouble is I am hardly ever home, so I kept missing their call. They would not specify a time they would call, so I'm sure as fuck not going to sit around all day waiting for namecheap to call me over $80 worth of domains. And they won't let you call them, which is bullshit. They don't even provide a phone number for support. So I asked if there was any other way to do it, so I had to send in a copy of my driver's license. Pain in the ass. Apparently lots of other people get hit with that too.

12-01-2005, 07:13 AM	#17
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	Never heard of anything like that before. __________________

12-01-2005, 07:21 AM	#18
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	webair asked for mine initially when they thought I was purchasing a dedicated server. I didnt have to furnish it, because I got a virtual account, but I think it's only required for those buying dedicated servers

12-01-2005, 07:27 AM	#19
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	first time i have heard of that, move to a new host if you don't want to give your id

12-01-2005, 08:53 AM	#20
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I had the same happen when I wanted to order a second server at servermatrix. I'd say it's more to do with preventing CC fraud.

12-01-2005, 09:01 AM	#21
Quickdraw Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: → → → Posts: 1,717	I think you will see a lot more of this. When my card numbers were taken, the first thing they bought were domains and hosting, lots of domains and various hosting from around the world.

12-01-2005, 09:23 AM	#23
IceMaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,920	Some hosting sites asked mine too. Webair for example.

12-01-2005, 09:56 AM	#25
fallenmuffin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,170	Hmm, I had to give photo id to webair when setting up my hosting.. EDIT: Webair has been good so far I run clean adult sites and have nothing to hide. I found it odd but whatever it takes to keep my sites up and the money rolling ;) Last edited by fallenmuffin; 12-01-2005 at 09:58 AM..

12-01-2005, 10:01 AM	#26
ionic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 443	I had to do the same thing when i ordered an EV1 server, my site is mainstream and has no adult content but they still required photo ID. Its just a preventative measure for credit card fraud, porn doesnt factor in it at all.

12-01-2005, 10:05 AM	#27
Adultnet Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 8,713	Just tell them that you are an old customer of them and you don't want to waste time on sending them a copy of your id. __________________ TrafficCashGold Paying Webmasters Since 1996! Awesome Conversions! Fast Weekly Payments! Over 125 Tours!

12-01-2005, 10:08 AM	#29
split_joel Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,270	The reason why they ask for a photo ID is to pervent frud and spam. its not that big of a deal. __________________ E-mail marketing - Automation Scripting - IP Space AIM: splitjoelp ICQ: 254759453 skype - splitjoelp 702-941-6465

12-01-2005, 10:15 AM	#30
Martin3 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,529	I had to send Webair a copy of mine for SSH access on a virtual account once. It's for fruad and security measures, nothing to really worry about. Bush isn't going to come to your door and hand you a bible or anything

12-01-2005, 10:30 AM	#31
Ycaza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the 805 Posts: 4,290	Guys, I have been in this business for some time. I have had friendly relations with FBI, local authorities and the Secret Service. None of them has asked me to provide any info like this to them. I would not see a need to ask you for it. __________________ Caz Thrush Head Honcho [email protected] http://thrushtech.com ICQ: 304883574 do people still icq?