We will never win over terrorism in the middle east ,these people have been fighting each other for 1000's of years to think we are going to end that is stupid. You want to stop terrorism its easy give them lots of employment. When people have things to lose, they arent so quick to strap bombs on themselves or support those actions.

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Well they are but with his Dad's connections and lest we forget Dick Cheney's influence, they really didn't give a fuck because things were going to be run the way they wanted anyway. :winkwink:

Oh please, spare us the bs. As if GW got into Yale on his academic achievements. After his Daddy got him into Yale, GW spent years at Yale perfecting his drinking and becoming an anti-intellectual.

Here are some direct quotes from your "Yale MBA Grad":

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family."

"More and more of our imports come from overseas."

"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe ? I believe what I believe is right."

"I want to thank the astronauts who are with us, the courageous spacial entrepreneurs who set such a wonderful example for the young of our country."

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."

"There's an old saying in Tennessee ? I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee ? that says, Fool me once, shame on ? shame on you. Fool me ? you can't get fooled again."

We would literally have to go over there and change entire governments to change the way of life - things like employment and education.

yeah he was a war hawk who couldn't even fulfill his national guard obligations. Just like the rest of his cabinet.

Hey Kenny, we DID have a democrat in office. He balanced the budget, gave us a surplus, brought peace to Ireland and Kosovo and was in the process of settling the issues in the Middle East. He brought himself up from absolute poverty and became a Rhodes Scholar at an Ivy League institution, which he had to EARN admission to, unlike spoiled brat Georgie.

He liked blowjobs though, so he was no good to conservatives like theking.

I too think that he is the worst President (though it may be a toss up between him and President Reagan)...in my lifetime...but I also have found fault with every administrations policies in my lifetime...which includes President Clinton. I too have been around since Eisenhower.

He also didn't do a damn thing when terrorist attacked the WTC the first time.

Not to mention he also sold sensitive weapons technology to China

then why are you always hanging around defending him? Are you really that lonely and bored?

the world would be better if someone decided to get rid of the Bush family like they did the kennedys

Shit, you're getting old like me. :winkwink:

The difference is the Bushes are spoiled rich brats from whom nothing is expected and to whom everything is given. The Kennedys were expected to accomplish great things, and if they didn't they were cut off from the seat of power.

Check out the difference between JFK's war record and Bush's. Ever heard of PT109?

I can balance the budget too if you let me cut the military in half and sell stealth technology to the highest bidder - lol

I do not defend "him". I defend against the lies and misinformation spread against him and his administration. The truth will suffice...thank you very much.

Peggy Noonan was interviewed on the Daily show last night and even though she's a staunch Republican, she didn't have anything nice to say about the President.

then you're a Bush supporter, so shut the fuck up about not loving your mealy mouth anti-intellectual hero.

Be proud of who you are, quit trying to hide it, because you're not really fooling anyone in the first place.

Find anyone to talk to you at a convention yet?

Funny how you quote evreyone and rip them but pass over the FACTS StuartD kindly shared... I think you actually beat the high score in the "Moron test".




Oh and btw... Take one of these with you :321GFY

Here's some truth for ya.

6 BILLION a MONTH to keep our troops in Iraq.

Mid January FEMA will no longer pay for those displaced by hurricane Katrina.

Yep, he's a great president.

Hmm...so much for you being astute...Danny boy. I support the truth...not lies and misinformation...and to repeat the truth will suffice...thank you very much.

That's not necessarily true.

I can't stand Bush, but when people make up shit about him, I'll point it out. That certainly doesn't make me a Bush supporter. Objective, yes.

My feeling is that there's enough out there that he REALLY fucked up with that we don't need to make things up or distort the truth.

How much does it cost if those troops aren't in Iraq.

I mean say if we moved them all to North Carolina and Florida.

I've always wondered about that. Same thing with Jets and Aircraft carriers they aren't exactly setting under a tarp waiting for a war.

More misinformation. FEMA will not be paying to keep people in hotel rooms...but will be paying to keep them in trailers...reqular housing etc.

Ahh...you are astute.

I liked Clinton, but I seriously doubt all that. Clinton is an elite just like the Bush's. Poor boys from Arkansas don't meet Presidents (JFK) and become Rhodes Scholars. I suspect he was the bastard son of Lawrence Rockefeller or someone similar.

You know what. I dont have an MBA from an Ivy League school, but I can get one in about 45 min. And you wont be able to tell the difference between them.

On top of that, he bought his.

PS King. Why defend him?

Not many of them do, but he did. He EARNED his elite status, it wasn't his birthright.

because he's lonely and this is the only way he can get anyone to talk to him.

I don't.

Wrong on both counts. Danny boy...you just ain't got no astutness.

Problem there is no regular housing. I saw an interview with a family that was shipped to NYC. Now FEMA is cutting them off and telling them to get housing in NYC. Fucking brilliant. A studio apt in NYC goes for around $1500 - 2000.

Where are they gonna find housing in New Orleans you idiot. In case you haven't kept up with current events they are bulldozing neighborhoods.

Here you go, donut puncher:

Burt what the fuck do they know compared to you, strapped in your wheelchair in your lousy trailer, drunk as a skunk with your brother... :321GFY

None the less...they will be housed somewhere and FEMA (FEMA had ordered tens of thousands of trailers but I do not know what the status is on delivery of same)...or the local welfare services will continue to pay. They will not be put out on the streets just out of the hotels. Many...and maybe most...have said they do not want to go back to NO.

Hmm..."believed". FYI...I do not use a wheelchair...do not live in a trailer...and I very seldom get drunk...and my brother even less so. Feel free to :321GFY foreign trash.

From someone who was displaced by 9-11 with my wife and child, FEMA doesn't give a flying fuck if you have a place to go or not.

They don't give a shit about the people, they just want to clear up the paperwork.

You really don't have a grasp on reality, do you?

In answer to the question...yes...I do.

So he says, anyway.

I think he's someone's bastard.

Going there now to get them to sign a confession ....

Oh shit, they blew themselves up .... can't get that .... So it's false ....

Amazing how onn the other hand no proof is needed to invade a country ...

What motivates such an idiotic policy? The U.S. gets credit for giving out toys, and if insurgents attack U.S. soldiers they get blame for killing kids. It's win-win! Except that children get killed.
My brother said the military was using the kids as human shields.


Now go do a " lewinsky" to your president ...

Now THAT is the smartest thing I've heard in a while! I absolutely agree with you on this Tony.

haha woj got owned

Baah! Typical King thread! :1orglaugh

As though it matter a toss what Bush says. What Bush says and what Bush does are two totally different things. He loves talking the talk and sometimes does that coherently.

*Any* elected leader of the western world has more cred and background qualification than the Texas moron allegedly elected to lead the "most powerful country" - sheesh, that's a sad thought. :(

That "idiot" and "moron" will continue to screw the US till the end of his term and get that nation into deeper shit (like it ain't already?) than it has ever been - another sad thought :(

Totally agree Tony! :thumbsup

Ya can't "win" against people who have spent centuries defending themselves and use whatever strategies to achieve their ends. It was only recently they pushed back Russian forces inflicting serious casualties - then move to the hills and get ready for the next assault.

You ever see footage a few years back of em fighting in Afghanistan? Hell.. no way can "conventional armies" stand a chance. They have no hesitation flying low in copters at night talking bullet rounds from the ground - they just don't give a shit. Some know they are going to die in a skirmish, but accept that's what they have to do.

Most likely, it's these same people we now brand "terrorists". What are they? Sheep farmers. Some of their "projects" (between taking bullet rounds) include building school desks for their local schools and trying to educate their families. They are no different to anyone else in other countries.

With the exception of a minority of those who can be described as "extreme", they just want left alone and have peace to live their lives the way they want without external interference. They have their own culture going back 1000's of years and ain't interested in some tinpot ideas others may want to thrust on em.

It may not be the "modern" thing to do, but in several ways, ya gotta respect your "enemy" and not assume an arrogance with ideas they are inferior.

Who knows in Iraq, but suspect the current occupation will end up the same as all the others and the "invaders" will depart once more, leaving them to clean up the mess - once more.

A discharge under honorable conditions and an honorable discharge are 2 different things, so he would had to have done something that determined the type of discharge he got...

what does that have to do with anything? If u really love to know it, yes i have a degree for an information technology education, u can compare to US university.
And by the way, the education level in the US is overall lower and easier to do then around here; i got this from peeps who first went to college here and later in the US.
Happy?
For your other points, see everyone elses posts for the details, or just line up all the facts and use common sense instead of trying to obsesively defend your government, its sick. Are you on their payroll or something?

Roger too?

I know that...and I am not 100% certain what type of discharge he recieved...but it is my understanding that he recieved an under honorable conditions rather than an Honorable Discharge.

What it has "to do with anything"...is...you were calling an Ivy leaqer with an MBA...illiterate. BTW...I will continue to defend my government against lies and misinformation...the truth will suffice...thank you very much.