Silent, you have the right to celebrate. It is good that you got paid. But for people that are owed real money, your payment means nothing, except good PR for a company that owes millions, and is forcing them to use them again to get what was stolen.

People in your boat, owed 4 figures or less should probably scream about it here. For them your payment offers hope. It just needs to be said here, that it means nothing. Ibill can't pay 4 figures and then point to you as a webmaster being paid without major laughter from the community as a whole, IMO.

Rooftop? Naw, last time I checked my ip cable runs in to my 3rd-floor office, allowing me to post from the comfort of my workstation.

So... 4-digits represents only $1,000 to you.

Next time the phone rings - odds are its not Mensa.

Had you taken more than a brief moment before hitting send on your above comment - you might have considered all the issues concerning bankruptcy. In the case of iBill - bankruptcy isn't based solely on money owing. Any experienced webmaster will tell you about sales momentum - and what happens when you're forced to cut loose your recurring customer base when you switch to a different transaction processor. Effectively, a lot of wind spills from the sails. You're basically forced to start at ground-zero, enticing former customers back in to the fold.

When iBill stopped payments to us last Sept/'04 - we immediately dumped their service. And along with that...recurring memberships on all our sites. Not only were we not getting paid by iBill - we could no longer rely on income from recurring subscriptions.

Combined with the direct halt of iBill payments, that's what nearly bankrupted us.

But you would already know that, since you obviously assume to know everything in this thread.

SilentKnight

Kastle Archives Productions Inc.

Then my suggestion to you at this point is - redouble your efforts at getting YOUR money from iBill, if you haven't been paid. Sitting there bashing the fact that I got paid is accomplishing sweet FA for you. Hey, I'm still sympathetic to all my fellow colleagues in this industry who haven't been paid yet. And I'm not saying the fact that I got paid is anything more than just that. But instead of bitching about my recent good fortune, you should take my experience as some inspiration that payment does happen. Stop being a glass-half-empty individual, get motivated...and do the same as we did. Bash the shit out of iBill publicly. Take names and badger them relentlessly like we did. Email and call them daily. Make them look like bigger fools in public every time they post.

In our case - the key to it was perseverance. We never let up. Mostly we got paid because I'm assuming they simply got tired of hearing from me and reading my extremely negative public posts. I'm not saying this will work for everyone. But its certainly better than carping to someone like me as you've done for your last half-dozen posts.

Stop bitchin' to the choir here and work out your best tactical strategy against iBill for yourself.


SilentKnight

Kastle Archives Productions Inc.

Its more correct to say I earned the money back in Sept/'04 with the revenues my websites generated. You can't "earn" money that is already yours legally to begin with.

It would be more accurate to say we succeeded in getting the money that was owed to us.

But you're quite right by saying "kicking ass and taking names". That's what its all about.

This was a publicity coup for Ibill . . no question. Paid in full . . and there are many others with the same good story. Maybe this will be the turning point for Ibill.

It is time for us to reconsider and sign up as one of their returning customers. Then you wiil go to the head of the line when payment time rolls around!

You are right about some of that. I take his post as small hope that I might get paid as well. I believe his intentions were to give other webmasters hope, not to polish Ibill´s glory (in fact I know he has been very, very opposed to the way does "business"). I prefer to know what going on with the "Ibill situation" and Ibill´s not telling me jack shit. Therefore, as small a piece of the puzzle as it is, SK´s post does give me some information.

I don´t think his post gives Ibill any good PR, quite the opposite in fact.

You are such a moron..........

So the truck miss you i see ? Iball's turning point was in Sept 2004 when they stopped paying out webmasters and lost there merchant account and since then its all been all downhill....

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:thumbsup
Glad you got paid. Maybe the rest of us will someday.

They owe me 130,000.00$
 

This is Scotty JX owner of Actiongirls.com and Viewpornstars.com,

Ibill still owes me $130,000.00 which they say they will pay half of March 29, 2006. We will see

Hey webmeister!

What we got here is a claim of a payment in full.

Where the fuck do you get "many others with the same good story"?? Name them!

Who the fuck is "us" re comments on "reconsidering and sign up as a returning customers"?? Thanks... but exclude me from "us".

Now... shut the fuck up and :321GFY

Mmmm... nasty one Scotty! Hope ya get something at the end of the day! :thumbsup

Exactly - and Webmeister...I'll thank you not to purport to be speaking on our behalf, either.

As a merchant owner got everything paid from inteca, after 7 months... was a lot of headache to pay from own pocket to webmasters within that 7 months.
But anyhow was a good move from ibill to do not change the name and start from blank list and to pay to everybody.

But, wouldn't use ibill anymore... it was not that easy turn guys

all this over 4 figures, what a joke :1orglaugh

Webby,


You yourself admitted you had been paid in full. Why are you here with all the malcontents badmouthing Ibill??


Ibill is coming back strong . . you would be foolish to write them off!

fwiw, they keep ignoring us, and it's not some spare change, our lawyers are working on this but this shit is really fucked up :mad:

Asshole... I got paid by using a lot of effort and tolerating iBill's bullshit. I have NOTHING good to say about them and sure will never be associating with them again. It's too much trouble dealing with liars and incompetents.

Shut your stupid mouth talking about "malcontents" - these are the majority of the iBill client list in the US who still have not been paid.

iBill are going weaker by the day and it's very easy to write them off - I did this last year.

Now... finally.. Go fuck yourself :321GFY

BTW... Tell your friends at iBill they still owe money to webmasters outside the US as well.

If and when these people are ever paid - I'll be pleased to make this known. iBill know them very well and have lied and bullshitted them as well.

This shit needs a website or pdf book published with all the crappy communications along with the famous quotes from Galanis and co since they took over. And best places to send complimentary copies are the FTC and Florida Attorney Generals office.

For the first time in your limited post history you make one correct statement there are a lot of unhappy people posting about how Iball's fucked them over and continue to do so. But you are deluded if you think Iball's will recover from their latest fuck up. Iball's is going down and going down soon. These post will never stop until all webmasters and affiliates are paid in full with interest.

And as an Iball's lackey you know as well as i do that is never going to happen. CCbill and Epoch have acquired all the accounts Iball's had and Iball's offering 10% fees will not con people into sign up will them ever again. So face facts you are fighting a losing cause, Iball's is finished, a washed up, dried up husk that has coned people for the last time. If you hurry Mc Dees may still have an opening for you.


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100.......,

Let me make sure I have this straight. You say you were vocal in other threads bitching about Ibill. But now, since you got your 4 figures, we should stop "bitching to the choir here?"

For the money they paid you, most of the people that were truly screwed by ibill wouldn't even get out of bed, much less waste valuable time running after a few grand. Guess according to you, those owed hundreds of thousands should stop bitching, and just ask Ibill to pay, like you did. Thanks for the sage advice. :disgust

What he is saying is that you should stop bitching about HIM getting paid. He can´t do anything about the amount owed to you. He is opposed to the was Ibill does business, hence the sentence "Preaching to the choir".

He is only suggesting that you direct your attention to bitching about the amount owned to YOU and that you put more effort in that as well as an effort into going after Ibill.

You can lead a horse to water...but you cannot make him drink.

Nobody is bitching about him getting paid. We are bitching about what would be a great PR thread for Ibill, when people that are owed real money haven't been paid. He was owed a few grand. The people that are owed lots of money don't want the community to think that Ibill is really making good on what they owe, if they aren't. If a flood of other guys that are being paid the hundreds of thousands of dollars come here and say they were paid, then Ibill deserves some good PR. When that happens I will apologize to SK for my entries in his thread, and be the first to announce real money is being paid by Ibill.

Do you really think you would have been successful if they owed you over $100,000, and you were a paysite owner?

it's like he himself said, they paid him the chump change they owed just to shut him up. (4 figures :1orglaugh )

To him who was almost bankrupted by this, its a huge deal and we should all take note. Meanwhile people owed real money will never see a cent.

March 2006 ibill will close their doors.

The answer to this is moot - since its just a hypothetical amount.

Now MY question to YOU is: why waste your time bashing the fact that I got paid...instead of spending the time pursuing YOUR money from iBill?

Anyways, I'm done here. The stupidity factor is more than I care to waste any more of my time responding to.

No, the answer to this is NO.

You are right, there is a lot of stupidity involved in this thread, including its inception. Do I need to say again that it is good you got paid? Apparently you are reading every other line. I guess you think posting here is how most webmasters are trying to get paid? Now that is stupid. :)

Most people would rather post here and complain here than simply pick up the phone and call ibill and merely ASK for the money.

Guess its more fun to complain on this message board!

Ibill is turning it around. but you have to ask and you will be surprised how much money they send you!

We will all know soon enough. If they are still here in April 06, then that would be a good thing.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

God.. you are such a retard!

ibill... hmmm?

Good news! I have just received full payment for money owing from Ibill. The check was for $4.23.


Let's all celebrate! :drinkup


Ibill is really turning it around!

Your prowess for intellectual humor is unparalleled. Beyond doubt, you are a funny boy.

Iball's is dead, long live CCbill and Epoch !!!

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Who is this webmiester idiot? This has to be the alias of some regular GFY poster who is a known shit-disturber.

has to be.

No one else could be this stupid.

"simply pick up the phone and call ibill and merely ASK for the money."

Only a brain-dead idiot would say this, and really think that most people have't already called about their money a dozen times or more. You're going to sit there and defend Ibill when their reps are bold-faced telling people "your payment was sent this morning" and then they wait for weeks and no sign of it?

Whomever's behind the name webmiester needs a god damned bitchslap.

so, any conslusion?

Yeah ibill fucked up hired the wrong people they fuxed the company; now they are trying to fix it.. I've seen this shit before, i would almost put money on everyone being paid.

Only thing that can stop you from getting your money is hate; they can only pay if they got clients.

Was thinking the same! :1orglaugh

Else a troll from iBill, but got more faith in them to be a bit more credible (eh???) with the scam..