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Rictor 03-24-2002 10:13 PM

Death penalty for ALL crimes...ESPECIALLY jay-walking!

jennycards 03-24-2002 11:19 PM

<B><I>The death penalty is the ultimate cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment.

It violates the right to life.

It is irrevocable and can be inflicted on the innocent. It has never been shown to deter crime more effectively than other punishments.</I></B>

Go to http://web.amnesty.org/rmp/dplibrary.nsf/index?openview to read more facts about the death penalty.

- Otto -

Joe Blow 03-24-2002 11:27 PM

AFGHANISTAN, BAHAMAS, BELARUS, BURUNDI, CHINA, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, EGYPT, GUATEMALA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAPAN, JORDAN, KUWAIT, MALAYSIA, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, SAUDI ARABIA, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, TAIWAN, THAILAND, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN

Those are the countries, according to Amnesty International, that executed people in the year 2000. It is interesting to see the USA (& Japan) in that list of third world hell holes.

LiveDose 03-24-2002 11:43 PM

Jenny IT DETERS THAT INDIVIDUAL from every commiting a crime again. Why do we always have to talk about detering other people??? That isn't the point. If someone is a killer and you off them, I guarantee you they will never ever kill anyone again.

bunky 03-24-2002 11:55 PM

I say if u know they are gulity paint the fuckers up like 10 pointed deers and make em run through 500+ acres of woods during hunting seasons... make it sporty

my :2 cents:

bunky

Caroline 03-24-2002 11:57 PM

my dad likes the idea of keeping them for organ donors. like an organ farm. i like that idea too, but i dont think anyone would actually want a kidney from a rapist or a murderer.
personally, i figure if you break a law, you deserve to be punished. i used to be opposed to the idea of "an eye for an eye" but as i grow older... it's more like an eye, ear... and a few limbs for an eye. if someone ever harmed one of my loved ones... i just hope i never find out who it was.
torture is the way to go.
slow, deliberate and extremely painful.
people who do not respect life, deserve no respect in return.
and that woman, the one in texas... i hope god has a special place for her. :BangBang: :feels-hot
i cant really put all of my feelings into words about this whole topic.

i do think however, that the lord of the rings should have gotten the award for the best picture.

jennycards 03-25-2002 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bunky
I say if u know they are gulity ...
But how can you KNOW it? There are so many people found guilty in court and finally released from death row because they wer NOT guilty.
And only god knows how many innocent people have been killed on the e-chair.
(funny enough to write about "god" on this board)

- Otto -

kmanrox 03-25-2002 12:04 AM

hey otto, id love to see what you'd say if you found your sister and mother raped and killed and tortured, and they found the guy with lots of evidence....

youd prolly kill him yourself, so sit down, shut up, and GO FUCK YOURSELF

baddog 03-25-2002 12:05 AM

I am not aware of anyone that claims the death penalty is there as a deterrent. I believe it falls more appropriately under the classification of punishment.

The only people I hear discussing the death penalty as a deterrent, are those against it. they always say it is not a deterrent. Well, that is not really the purpose. There is no deterrent to crime, as long as there are webmasters, sponsors, Soviets, Republicans, Catholic priests, cops and Al Queda there will be crime. There is nothing that will deter any of them.

I have had an idea for an alternative to the death penalty for a long time. My idea would be to turn death row into a parts house for organ transplants. As science has progressed, my idea has gained additional benefits. The main one would be mandatory DNA testing which could assist in filtering through those wrongfully accused.

jennycards 03-25-2002 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Caroline
my dad likes the idea of keeping them for organ donors ...
This idea is nothing better than what the Nazis did when they performed "medical research" in the concentration camps. And they were also CONVINCED about the guilt of the Jews. They thought to KNOW it.

- Otto -

baddog 03-25-2002 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

This idea is nothing better than what the Nazis did when they performed "medical research" in the concentration camps.

well, there is one minor difference. In this country, one is entitled to a trial before a jury of their peers. There is no similarities.

Besides, today with DNA testing available, we could prove through blood, hair, or other trace evidence if the donor was really guilty or not. Also, do not knock medical atrocities committed during time of war. That is when the major surgical advancements have been made.

jennycards 03-25-2002 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
hey otto, id love to see what you'd say if you found your sister and mother raped and killed and tortured, and they found the guy with lots of evidence....

youd prolly kill him yourself, so sit down, shut up, and GO FUCK YOURSELF

K-Man,

This might be difficult to understand ... but killing someone who has killed your loved ones is a totally different story. It's NOT death penalty (comitted by your government).

To answer your question: If your government wants to raise taxes do they ask tax payers if they like to pay more? No, they don't ask them because they already know their (natural) answer. And because of the same reason you must not ask crime victimes if they favor death penalty.

Peace,

- Otto -

Jamie 03-25-2002 12:22 AM

I can tell you one thing, I would never commit a felony in Texas. Your guranteed to get the Death Penalty there..

I'm in favor of the death penalty... and castration of rapists.

jennycards 03-25-2002 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamie
I can tell you one thing, I would never commit a felony in Texas. Your guranteed to get the Death Penalty there..

I'm in favor of the death penalty... and castration of rapists.

And the Mormons or Amish would probably add "Adult Webmasters" to your list of castration candidates.

- Otto -

twistyneck 03-25-2002 04:10 AM

I'm in favor of the death penalty except for the fact that I don't trust juries not to convict innocent people. I know that I wouldn't want the dipshit who works at 7-11 or McDonald's sitting on a jury if I was on trial.

Scootermuze 03-25-2002 04:21 AM

I kinda liked the idea of what happend some years ago.. can't remember what country it was, but some hijackers were taken off of a plane and hung right there on the tarmac. Swift justice..

But Jenny is right.. there are too many innocent people in prison. If it is proven 'without a doubt' that a person is guilty of murder, child molestation, and such, then take em out pronto.. don't wait for 10 years.

SR 03-25-2002 06:04 AM

I'm against it.
Why?
Because American law doesn't really care if someone is more or less mentaly handicapped.
Last month they wanted to kill a black dude who was mentaly not right and was 17 when he (if he did) raped a girl.
Plus you are quilty untill proven innocent.
It happens quite often that someone is being released because he got locked up for something he didn't do, how to release him if the state already killed him?
If he did something wrong lock him up.
No need to kill him IMO.... After all you are still killing someones son/daughter.
Plus America got listed in the top5 by amnesti international together with countries like Iran for not accepting human rights in alot of cases.

Rip 03-25-2002 10:05 AM

I think that when we see absolute injustice, we wanna see the person get what's coming to them

in a society such as ours, there are some judicial errors, but the benefit to society is better served by erasing the individuals, especially in cases where there is overwhelming evidence against them. Then of course, there is the enormous cost of prosecution...

why not just dump them off in the center of antarctica... if they make it back, then they must have been innocent ;) then give the money which was going to be spent on court costs to the victims


on the flip side Zimbabwe thinks that it has swift justice, albeit misguided

kmanrox 03-25-2002 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jennycards

K-Man,

This might be difficult to understand ... but killing someone who has killed your loved ones is a totally different story. It's NOT death penalty (comitted by your government).

To answer your question: If your government wants to raise taxes do they ask tax payers if they like to pay more? No, they don't ask them because they already know their (natural) answer. And because of the same reason you must not ask crime victimes if they favor death penalty.

Peace,

- Otto -

you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are ya?


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