bump for it

thanks, tranza! ;)

Relax, a light hearted joke on an overly tense thread ... I've had a ton of success with purely white-hat SEO. But the reality is to compete in the highly competitive space, the top dogs are almost all using black hat.

And yes, absolutely true, keep them separate!

You my friend are correct. Allthough i hate to brand someone as black hat or white hat, these days you rarely see a white hat.

If you adapt your site to rank better you are gaming google, if your gaming them and building to suit the spider...whats white hat about that.

Im green hat, i do what it takes to make money.

White SEO, black SEO, gray SEO, green SEO, what's the difference?
If you obey rules and make some good results, then you are my man! ;)
In that case: :thumbsup !

one more bump... ;)

Having worked in the past for SEO companies (keywordranking.com and websourced.com) anyways... I have to agree that a good % of how to work your website and get you pages ranked on google, yahoo... can easily be found by searching the very search engines people are trying to get ranked on. It should take the ave. person only a few days to learn the basics, and months to get up to 90% the last 10% will take a lifetime to learn as the search engine are always changing.
Some of what worked last year will not do much if anything for you this year.
I have also found that there is no 1 way to do things, basically allot of people have there own way to do a few things to get websites in the top 1-2 pages. Is one way better then the other... Yes the guy with the #1 spot did it better.
Black hat, white hat, yellow hat, red hat, what ever a #1 spot for a week is better then spot 100 for a life time.
That all said... If anyone want to chat about SEO feel free to hit me up, anyone looking for a place to send your SE traffic can also hit me up.

Thanks for bumping my thread! I would definitely contact you... ;)

one more bump for the cause... ;)

one more bump...

anyone around?

i am still around

thanks for bumping my thread... ;)

I'm convinced there should be a GFY subforum for SEO.

Then a whole collection of guys with half ass skills can have there own place to post?

Nobody worth there shit would post much info in such a place.

I do SEO as well, only for myself though lol. Anyway here is a bump for you.

Oh so true

I so agree. These selfappointed holy white-hat preachers usually "optimize" their site internally to squeeze out as much traffic juice as possible.

In their mind it's the way you strengthen your site(s) that seperates the white hats from the black hats.

Hypocrites.

It's all about squeezing $$ out of the engines. If it wasn't they wouldn't even be interested in the white/black hat terminology or how they rank.

thanks, mate! ;)
anyone else wanting SEO help, feel free to contact me on ICQ#: 53667259...

thanks everyone! ;)

one more chance for SEO... ;)

the last bump from me...

no, this one is the last... ;)

*Subscribes*

yeah... same thing if you are building a house. There are all the documents you need out there... But we cant all build our own houses. I sure dont have time for that! Plenty of other stuff to do!

fucking everyone knows that no one uses google anymore :)

:thumbsup Thanks for the back up! ;)