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Old 11-25-2005, 01:02 PM   #51
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Unprecedented, I just had to check that this wasnt an old thread bump from April fools day.

Lo and behold, it wasnt.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:05 PM   #53
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The old adage "Tis better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt" came to mind while reading this thread.
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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

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Old 11-25-2005, 01:06 PM   #55
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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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I don't know how many programs I've signed up to, grabbed ALL of their FHG's (some have 500-1000), added them ALL to my tgp's and other little free sites all at once.... and not one of them has ever complained or commented (other than to say "welcome aboard").

Kory, you mean to tell me that if a 500k a day TGP were to take your 30 measly FHG's and add them to their site all at once, and they start sending you 20 joins a day, that you'd have a problem with that??

Dude..... I just don't know what to tell you other than you're shooting yourself in the foot.


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If he has asked you to put up his FHGs onto your site and then cancels your account he's indeed an moron. However, there is also some truth in what he says. I can see more and more idiot webmasters who, whenever a sponsor comes out with a set of 30 or 40 new FHGs from the same site have nothing better to do than putting all these FHGs onto a single page, complete with thumbail for each gallery. This is imho the same idiocy as a restaurant owner who gives his guests 10 free plates of appetizers and then is surprised that nobody wants to go for a main course. FHGs are simply not meant to be used in this way. Like it or not, FHGstore is certainly a clever idea but in fact the same idiotic concept. You probably have a few webmasters visiting your site but most likely a lot more surfers.
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How dare you put up fhg's and get a sale and SE rankings.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:16 PM   #59
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If he has asked you to put up his FHGs onto your site and then cancels your account he's indeed an moron. However, there is also some truth in what he says. I can see more and more idiot webmasters who, whenever a sponsor comes out with a set of 30 or 40 new FHGs from the same site have nothing better to do than putting all these FHGs onto a single page, complete with thumbail for each gallery. This is imho the same idiocy as a restaurant owner who gives his guests 10 free plates of appetizers and then is surprised that nobody wants to go for a main course. FHGs are simply not meant to be used in this way. Like it or not, FHGstore is certainly a clever idea but in fact the same idiotic concept. You probably have a few webmasters visiting your site but most likely a lot more surfers.
The first person to understand what I meant.

I've never suspended an account before, and I'll certainly not do it again without trying to fix the problem through email first.

I asked to be listed on the FHG store about 6 months ago, I believe. I assumed then it was for webmasters. But the aff.ID in his hosted links more then suggests otherwise. Seeing all 30 hosteds linked on ONE page and pulling good SEO for the TITLE of my site (not for general niche keywords, mind you) is what sucked.

http://www.fhgstore.com/floridakittens.html

If someone was interested in the site already and was thinking about joining, then decided to Google the title and try and get free content, they would have found a smorgasbord of it right next to my site, at FHG. Apparently, that's what's been happening.
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I mean, that's why cash sites are password protected in most cases, right? So that surfers interested in the site can't easily access all the promotional content instead of joining?
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I didnt know it was, "theres no money in SEO, or else!" haha.

Thats really odd. I wouldnt normally comment in another sponsors thread, but seriously.. If you put up FHG's then have confidence in your marketing. Who cares if affiliates list 1, or 1000 in a row. But by all means, if you DO care, then put it in the terms and conditions or something.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:30 PM   #64
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You dont even show for Florida Kittens man, wtf.

I should fill the floridakittens serps with spca results so you get fuck all from there to.

Shouldnt you be studying for something you will make a career out of, this industry is obviously NOT for you.
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Well, fhg's are made to entice them into joining though. You might simply rewrite your TOS to include some restrictions on FHG use.
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:39 PM   #66
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The first person to understand what I meant.

I've never suspended an account before, and I'll certainly not do it again without trying to fix the problem through email first.

I asked to be listed on the FHG store about 6 months ago, I believe. I assumed then it was for webmasters. But the aff.ID in his hosted links more then suggests otherwise. Seeing all 30 hosteds linked on ONE page and pulling good SEO for the TITLE of my site (not for general niche keywords, mind you) is what sucked.

http://www.fhgstore.com/floridakittens.html

If someone was interested in the site already and was thinking about joining, then decided to Google the title and try and get free content, they would have found a smorgasbord of it right next to my site, at FHG. Apparently, that's what's been happening.

So, if we can resume ...

The 30 FHG gallery expose ALL the content you have in the member area, and thats why you are pissed because ppl see all of your content for free?

You are using pimpdog tactic , he can build a whole paysite around a 30 megs video ;)

Seriously, i hate retards like you , who are pissed because we get better ranking than you in google, and you try to fuck us to get the full ammount of the signup by deleting accounts, redirecting urls or a ton of shady shit.
Mainstreams ppl do this, not adult normally.
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The first person to understand what I meant.
No. He may be the first to agree with you though.

I fully understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you (at all). Basically I haven't read thinking as cockeyed as yours is since that one single-girl model told me "it sucks to have to pay affiliates 50%"

unreal.

If your site was properly optimized for SE's you would be hitting #1 or close to it on every search from nearly every SE, period. The fact that you aren't and are instead here complaining about an affiliate (who actually made a sale for you!) also speaks volumes, about you and your program.

I'd love to help you, actually, but I get the feeling you're another of these younger guys who has the "fuck you, I'm doing it my way" mentality. I could be wrong, and will admit it if I am.

I had a bit of fun at your expense in this thread. I will take this opportunity to thank you for at least keeping your cool and handling things thus far in a fairly professional manner. But another quality professionals have is the ability to learn from mistakes, and actually admit them.

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Like it or not, FHGstore is certainly a clever idea but in fact the same idiotic concept. You probably have a few webmasters visiting your site but most likely a lot more surfers.
Actually it's easy to know. I just see the number of webmaster referral signups I'm getting from FHGStore.com. Also if you look at our boad (www.fhgstore.com/board) then you won't find any surfer's post there. All threads you'll see are promo ones from various affiliate programs etc.

BTW, I even can't see anything bad if some surfers come to FHGStore.com. And it will be nice if they find MY OWN FHG's among of others and signs up for my own paysites. However there something about 300 affiliate programs in the list, and they have more than 200,000 hosted galleries there, so I even can't hope for such a luck Especially taking into the account that actual nubmer of surfers at my resource can't be sufficient somehow (I'm not thehun )
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You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

...

... I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.
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You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.
Amazing! Don't you think that:
1) Some TGP/CJ/Blog owner has placed your gallery with my ref code to his resource? Perhaps it was ME bceause I have 10 CJ sites and 11 blogs with PR3..4 (just take a look at http://www.18plusreviews.com or http://www.hornybloger.com - these are MY OWN resources!)
2) Is it bad if your galleries generate some sales for you EVEN from a webmaster resource like FHGStore.com?

I'm really confused with your post above...

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I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.
Really? So what is that then: http://www.gallerydynamics.com/clients/floridakittens/ ?????? Is it your page or my one? Nothing to say again?

If you won't pay the money to your affiliates - ok, it's your way to do the business. But personally I won't take a part in it...
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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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HA HA HA HAHA HA HAHAHHAAA who are the FHG's for then? The Webmasters to take a break and whack off to??
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Am I the only one who agrees with FloridaKitten's reason for terminating you?
More sponsors should do this.
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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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you are a fucking idiot... the guy is promoting your program, and you cancel him... do you even understand the "affiliate" concept?
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The first person to understand what I meant.

I've never suspended an account before, and I'll certainly not do it again without trying to fix the problem through email first.

I asked to be listed on the FHG store about 6 months ago, I believe. I assumed then it was for webmasters. But the aff.ID in his hosted links more then suggests otherwise. Seeing all 30 hosteds linked on ONE page and pulling good SEO for the TITLE of my site (not for general niche keywords, mind you) is what sucked.

http://www.fhgstore.com/floridakittens.html

If someone was interested in the site already and was thinking about joining, then decided to Google the title and try and get free content, they would have found a smorgasbord of it right next to my site, at FHG. Apparently, that's what's been happening.
Maybe you missed the part where there were 156 searches for your site in October...

I am willing to bet that they (the surfer) actually did a search for something else, found FHG Store, saw your galleries, and joined...
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I'm in school full-time... ..
Stay there until it works, so far it's been wasted money.

I am sorry for your loss.


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I guess some people really don't understand the power of affiliates and the interwebs.


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I just wanted to post in the thread, I've seen sponsors do some pretty retarded things where content is concerned, but term'ing an account BEFORE talking to the person AFTER requesting they put them up knowing FULL WELL how they put them up? Is this guy 14?

Does this work? Oh that's enticing, makes me want to join!

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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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I just wanted to post in the thread, I've seen sponsors do some pretty retarded things where content is concerned, but term'ing an account BEFORE talking to the person AFTER requesting they put them up knowing FULL WELL how they put them up? Is this guy 14?
Exact, thats the point
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:32 PM   #85
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ok ok ok, cuz now this is even more funny. The #2 Google result for Floridakitten is a link to their webmaster program with ALL their FHGs....

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By my count, not only has Kory nuked a good affiliate but now about two dozen other potential affiliates will not promote him.

I've seen program owners make mistakes before, but....
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Am I the only one who agrees with FloridaKitten's reason for terminating you?
More sponsors should do this.
Don't know why, but during the last hour I got a lot of FHG submissions from a big guy's affiliate programs who asked to add their galleries to FHGStore.com. Should I follow your suggestion and refuse them?

2All: who submitted their programs to FHGStore.com. Your resources will be added to the base on the next update. Thank you!
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Okay, I figured it out. "Kory" is pissed because a surfer sale was sent through, and "she" had to pay out 50% on that!! She wanted free link placement and take 100% for her trouble, I get it now! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!!!!!!

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Okay, I figured it out. "Kory" is pissed because a surfer sale was sent through, and "she" had to pay out 50% on that!! She wanted free link placement and take 100% for her trouble, I get it now! I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!!!!!!

ROFL.
Thats what i said in my post ;)

Like usual, dont give content a keyboard ;)
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Yeah, I meant "she".... she's also content on her site apparently.

Btw, what came up #1 on yahoo for Florida Kittens is a Bomis webring, and the top link in that ring is an affiliate ID link. Kory, better nuke him (or her)!
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ok ok ok, cuz now this is even more funny. The #2 Google result for Floridakitten is a link to their webmaster program with ALL their FHGs....

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Yeah, I meant "she".... she's also content on her site apparently.
She is??? Hey can I get a fansign that says "I Purred for A Lot of Webgirls.com, but don't go there, come to Floridakittens.com instead"


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Done!

Dear Kory,

I finally got to my work place. So your floridakittens galleries were successfully removed from FHGStore.com. Now 5th position in Google search for "floridakittens" will be directed to the page I'm sending all accidental surfers to (actually it's my 404 page for removed and misleading links) Hope the drama is over now


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Done!

Dear Kory,

I finally got to my work place. So your floridakittens galleries were successfully removed from FHGStore.com. Now 5th position in Google search for "floridakittens" will be directed to the page I'm sending all accidental surfers to (actually it's my 404 page for removed and misleading links) Hope the drama is over now


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I'd actually leave up the old page and take down the links, then say something about them asking you to take down their galleries as they do not want affiliates ranking high for their name. Follow it with ads to other sites.

Only reason I say leave the page up is that the redirect will eventually cause Google to kill your spot in the rankings there. Leave it up and have him deal with people at the top of the SERPs seeing sites not promoting him.

I don't run a program, but if I did, I'd want my site to fill up the results if people searched for them.
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This is some funny shit. How does this guy not realise how fucking retarded he is?
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ok ok ok, cuz now this is even more funny. The #2 Google result for Floridakitten is a link to their webmaster program with ALL their FHGs....

bwahahaha
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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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This is Kory from FK...

Yeah, I just did that like an hour ago. I was going to send you an email right about now...

FHG store is set-up rather sneaky, imo. You have all the hosteds set-up in a row with your affiliate ID in the link. You've made at least one sale to a surfer already.

I wouldn't want a regular affiliate linking 30 of my hosted galleries in a row, either. That's an orgy of content. No webmaster likes that. If a TGP opened with every hosted gallery from Kate's Playground, Spunky or wouldn't be too pleased either.

I'm in school full-time... I haven't had a chance to do much house-cleaning or SEO work until now. When I checked the Google ranking for FK and I found all 30 hosted galleries right near the top - with an affiliate ID in the gallery links - I saw a problem. I'm sorry if I offended you. But I don't want FHG dishing out all my galleries to surfers. Or FHG making surfer sales, when it was supposed to be just a webmaster resource.

I'll try and get you on ICQ

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So retarded but a good laugh. Thanks.
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