29% no cookies, 31% IE6 - GoFuckYourself.com

Naughty · 03-22-2002, 07:19 AM

From the new features of our stats program I got this data (a CJ2 site).

I noticed on tgp2 galleries there were 10% less no cookie surfers than on my tgp1 galleries.

Did anybody ever concluded the relation between IE6 and NoCookies. Anybody getting a decline on sales on sponsors that use cookies?

Naughty · 03-22-2002, 07:22 AM

Another thing that stands out is the stats from our resource site, where a lot of webmasters come:
NoCookie: 2.4%
IE6: 34.7%

I will crunch some more data shortly and see what the overall results are.

LoveAsianChicks · 03-22-2002, 09:47 AM

This should have a severe impact on sales if the sponsor is only tracking with a cookie.
34.7% of IE6 users are not using cookies?

I was always worried about this, but never imagined it was this high a % already.

Wilbo · 03-22-2002, 09:50 AM

Yes, I think signups have steadily gone down for most webmasters and it is my opinion that cookies are a big part of it. I would love to know the percentage of signups sponsors get that aren't credited to any webmaster account because the surfer had cookies turned off.

4Pics · 03-22-2002, 09:53 AM

just use sponsors who don't reply on cookies.

Thats a ton of nocookie.

Kimmykim · 03-22-2002, 10:40 AM

Depending on just how your cookies are set, you can get wild variations in numbers from IE older versions to IE6.

THIRD PARTY cookies (NOT to be confused with third party processors) are turned off by default. Which would indeed give you the numbers you are looking at but not for what you think you are seeing.

CCBill does not use third party cookies; we go a step further and if we have site owners running our join page in a frame we break the frame so the cookie can be set.

Of course we also offer secondary and tertiary methods of tracking as well, including hard coding in the url and having the resellers go that route.

Each method isn't 100% foolproof, and we feel that our primary setup, using the cookies we set, is the best one for everyone involved.

mryellow · 03-22-2002, 05:48 PM

I've got 3 words for you.

Privacy Scare Tactics

Stop shitting where you eat!

I'm reading 5% nocookies which isn't bad.... sure some people are counting incorrectly but others have heaps of real nocookie traffic.

-Ben

TheFLY · 03-22-2002, 06:30 PM

There's no such thing as a 3rd party cookie.

03-22-2002, 07:19 AM	#1
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,487	29% no cookies, 31% IE6 From the new features of our stats program I got this data (a CJ2 site). I noticed on tgp2 galleries there were 10% less no cookie surfers than on my tgp1 galleries. Did anybody ever concluded the relation between IE6 and NoCookies. Anybody getting a decline on sales on sponsors that use cookies? __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

03-22-2002, 05:48 PM	#7
mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	I've got 3 words for you. Privacy Scare Tactics Stop shitting where you eat! I'm reading 5% nocookies which isn't bad.... sure some people are counting incorrectly but others have heaps of real nocookie traffic. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

03-22-2002, 07:22 AM	#2
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,487	Another thing that stands out is the stats from our resource site, where a lot of webmasters come: NoCookie: 2.4% IE6: 34.7% I will crunch some more data shortly and see what the overall results are.

03-22-2002, 09:47 AM	#3
LoveAsianChicks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -CANADA- Posts: 1,464	This should have a severe impact on sales if the sponsor is only tracking with a cookie. 34.7% of IE6 users are not using cookies? I was always worried about this, but never imagined it was this high a % already.

03-22-2002, 09:50 AM	#4
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	Yes, I think signups have steadily gone down for most webmasters and it is my opinion that cookies are a big part of it. I would love to know the percentage of signups sponsors get that aren't credited to any webmaster account because the surfer had cookies turned off.

03-22-2002, 09:53 AM	#5
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	just use sponsors who don't reply on cookies. Thats a ton of nocookie.

03-22-2002, 10:40 AM	#6
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Depending on just how your cookies are set, you can get wild variations in numbers from IE older versions to IE6. THIRD PARTY cookies (NOT to be confused with third party processors) are turned off by default. Which would indeed give you the numbers you are looking at but not for what you think you are seeing. CCBill does not use third party cookies; we go a step further and if we have site owners running our join page in a frame we break the frame so the cookie can be set. Of course we also offer secondary and tertiary methods of tracking as well, including hard coding in the url and having the resellers go that route. Each method isn't 100% foolproof, and we feel that our primary setup, using the cookies we set, is the best one for everyone involved.

03-22-2002, 06:30 PM	#8
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	There's no such thing as a 3rd party cookie.