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Old 11-23-2005, 10:23 AM   #51
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Jedi, you are being a fucking retard this time. How in the holy fuck is a business emailing you about "drumroll" doing business spam? You cry like a blogger who just got hotlinked pussy.
Yeah, well how is it different when someone send you: penis enlargement ads, viagra offers, fake rolex offers, porn sites spam etc etc. ? All these people think they are emailing "business" deals too.

They are pushing their own product without me requesting it. I don't want to go thru my business emails and stumble on their spam in between.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:23 AM   #52
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they should have bought advertising somewhere (like GFY board?)
by the way we do
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:25 AM   #53
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Yeah sure...

thats an affiliate of ours fishing for sub affiliates...how do i know that???
We do have an employee named Leo here, but his ref link is www.mallcom.com/leo not the one from that email

Second, The phone number and icq number that person put on the email signature are my numbers not leo's so doesnt make any sense...

I'll leave it up to your discretion if you want to believe it or not...that account going to be canned and business will go back as normal...

R

Yeah it came from Leo Ferrara <[email protected]>

Anyway. Appology accepted.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:25 AM   #54
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Yeah sure...

thats an affiliate of ours fishing for sub affiliates...how do i know that???
We do have an employee named Leo here, but his ref link is www.mallcom.com/leo not the one from that email

Second, The phone number and icq number that person put on the email signature are my numbers not leo's so doesnt make any sense...

I'll leave it up to your discretion if you want to believe it or not...that account going to be canned and business will go back as normal...

R
You're making a mistake canning a guy for trying to drum up business the old fashioned way. Shit, this is how business is supposed to be done man. (Understandable if they are putting your info instead of theirs)
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:25 AM   #55
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I received an email like this a very long time ago, sent it back and stated that I was already an affiliate. In that note I asked when they were going to use SSL in their checkout.
Now they have SSL and I have been trying to use them more. I use to receive quite a few checks from them, and am looking forward to getting more again. Although, I do wish they would have let me know when they installed it!

As far as the email being SPAM, I like this kind of SPAM. Real contact info, real reply address, real money making opportunity.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:28 AM   #56
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You're making a mistake canning a guy for trying to drum up business the old fashioned way. Shit, this is how business is supposed to be done man. (Understandable if they are putting your info instead of theirs)
Fuck this kind of business. It's like stupid "program representatives" bugging the fuck out of you on ICQ for your traffic.

What if all programs started doing that? How would you like dozens of such "business offers" in your email?
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:30 AM   #57
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Yeah it came from Leo Ferrara <[email protected]>

Anyway. Appology accepted.
If you ever have another problem with us let's settle it privately...this was something very simple to resolve and word of mouth is a powerful tool..threads like this can hurt people's business

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Old 11-23-2005, 10:31 AM   #58
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Yeah sure...

thats an affiliate of ours fishing for sub affiliates...how do i know that???
We do have an employee named Leo here, but his ref link is www.mallcom.com/leo not the one from that email

Second, The phone number and icq number that person put on the email signature are my numbers not leo's so doesnt make any sense...

I'll leave it up to your discretion if you want to believe it or not...that account going to be canned and business will go back as normal...

R
Ric is good people, cut him some slack. He's canning the spammer account, so maybe that makes the crowd happy.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:32 AM   #59
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If you ever have another problem with us let's settle it privately...this was something very simple to resolve and word of mouth is a powerful tool..threads like this can hurt people's business

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It's going to take much more than this to hurt your [Mallcom] reputation and credibility.
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Definetly. And Mallcom is an awesome company, hands down.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:32 AM   #61
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Yeah, well how is it different when someone send you: penis enlargement ads, viagra offers, fake rolex offers, porn sites spam etc etc. ? All these people think they are emailing "business" deals too.

They are pushing their own product without me requesting it. I don't want to go thru my business emails and stumble on their spam in between.
Here's an analogy you might understand.

Mailing ads for retard helmets to millions of people at random = spam.

Mailin an ad for retard helmets to you = targetted marketing.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:34 AM   #62
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Fuck this kind of business. It's like stupid "program representatives" bugging the fuck out of you on ICQ for your traffic.

What if all programs started doing that? How would you like dozens of such "business offers" in your email?
Unlike you I owned several offline businesses before moving online and have dealt with it on a daily basis for almost a decade. This is REAL business, not some chump with a tgp on a donated domain name.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:34 AM   #63
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No I don't have any other problems.

I just got very mad at getting unwanted mail in the mailbox that I went out of my way to protect. I get lots of spam to the throwaway emails (like the ones used to signup for affiliate programs) an I usually disregard it. But getting unsolicited letters to this private mailbox set me off.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:37 AM   #64
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Unlike you I owned several offline businesses before moving online and have dealt with it on a daily basis for almost a decade. This is REAL business, not some chump with a tgp on a donated domain name.
This "tgp on a donated domain name" makes more money than all your offline businesses combined. So for me, it's pretty fucking REAL too.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:37 AM   #65
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No I don't have any other problems.

I just got very mad at getting unwanted mail in the mailbox that I went out of my way to protect. I get lots of spam to the throwaway emails (like the ones used to signup for affiliate programs) an I usually disregard it. But getting unsolicited letters to this private mailbox set me off.
A) Delete it and move on
B) See if there is an "Unsubscribe Option"
C) Contact Mallcom to get it resolved
and then if none of them work
D) Bring it to the boards.

Looks like you decided to do shit ass backwards.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:40 AM   #66
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This "tgp on a donated domain name" makes more money than all your offline businesses combined. So for me, it's pretty fucking REAL too.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:41 AM   #67
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A) Delete it and move on

B) See if there is an "Unsubscribe Option"
C) Contact Mallcom to get it resolved
and then if none of them work
D) Bring it to the boards.

Looks like you decided to do shit ass backwards.

Brilliant logic, Quasimodo.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:42 AM   #68
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I would call spam commercial unsolicited mass mailing, this is a single email, biz to biz and the guy has all his contact info on there. imo there's nothing wrong with that, I do it myself.
The mail header info (reply address) sounds like it was forged (in violation of the CAN-SPAM act), the contact info was not the sender's, there was no opt-out provision, and that message sounds to me like a mass-mailed form letter, not a single message a person typed to one recipient.

Chadglni, while I'd agree that well-targetted spam is less objectionable than untargetted spam, I don't think the CAN-SPAM distinguishes between the two.

CAN-SPAM info: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.htm
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:42 AM   #69
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Rob - Betsy - Steve and everybody else that has our back thanks thats greatly appreciated ;)
We're happy you picked us to do business with and lets continue making $

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Old 11-23-2005, 10:43 AM   #70
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Yeah, 700 PPS signups / month is so funny.


GO GET MY COAT BITCH.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:45 AM   #71
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If someone's going to pretend to be me, they could atleast spell my name right ;)
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The mail header info (reply address) sounds like it was forged (in violation of the CAN-SPAM act), the contact info was not the sender's, there was no opt-out provision, and that message sounds to me like a mass-mailed form letter, not a single message a person typed to one recipient.

Chadglni, while I'd agree that well-targetted spam is less objectionable than untargetted spam, I don't think the CAN-SPAM distinguishes between the two.

CAN-SPAM info: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.htm
I've read on CAN-SPAM, I'm just saying it's a shitty thing to be complaining about. You get 500 letters in your mailbox when you register a corporation, these internet kids just know fuck all about doing real business. Phone calls, mail, and even email are the norm.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:47 AM   #73
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If someone's going to pretend to be me, they could atleast spell my name right ;)
Yeah, well here's some more info if you want to look into it:

Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: (qmail 54542 invoked by uid 1001); 23 Nov 2005 14:09:47 -0000
Received: from [email protected] by ubermail.jupiterhosting.com by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22
( Clear:RC:0(209.200.15.250):.
Processed in 2.307956 secs); 23 Nov 2005 14:09:47 -0000
X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: [email protected] via ubermail.jupiterhosting.com
X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.22 (Clear:RC:0(209.200.15.250):. Processed in 2.307956 secs)
Received: from unknown (HELO mail.mallcom.com) (209.200.15.250)
by ubermail.jupiterhosting.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2005 14:09:44 -0000
Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
by mail.mallcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9260E5C81A7
for <email>; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:09:43 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mail.mallcom.com ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (mail.mallcom.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with LMTP id 03576-01 for <email>;
Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:09:42 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ComputerLeo (ool-44c26e94.dyn.optonline.net [68.194.110.148])
by mail.mallcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48785C827F
for <email>; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:09:41 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leo Ferrara" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: We want to set you up with your own online adult shop
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:09:37 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C5F00D.A0C84E10"
X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510
Thread-Index: AcXwP+sw8UqO0ZWDRa2RvuOjzAlajghahahaha
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mallcom.com

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Old 11-23-2005, 10:48 AM   #74
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Yeah, 700 PPS signups / month is so funny.


GO GET MY COAT BITCH.
Amazing, that's like a billion dollars in your homeland huh? $21,000 USD or so?
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Amazing, that's like a billion dollars in your homeland huh? $21,000 USD or so?
Thats like, 100% more than whatever you're making, moose-fucker.
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:55 AM   #76
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Speaking personally, I'd prefer a company to manually check out my site and send me an email. It's not spam. If I got it 5 times, I might let them know I received it and no need to re-email it. If I got it 10 times, I might complain to them. If I got it 20 times, I might start a thread.

Thats just me though.
I agree with you ... looks like a rep just emailing to offer biz . i thought it was going to be a buy this DVD mail ... but a "checkout our services" is not a big deal ... your in the biz and they offer a product for your biz .. if i got it 20 times then I'd contact them ...

the guys at mallcom are great and I've always done well with them in the past ..
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Thats like, 100% more than whatever you're making, moose-fucker.
I was clearing that at 17. Try again.

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I was clearing that at 17. Try again.
Sure you were.
Now go clean the shit hole. Your break is over.
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Here's an analogy you might understand.

Mailing ads for retard helmets to millions of people at random = spam.

Mailin an ad for retard helmets to you = targetted marketing.
where do i send the bill for my water covered keyboard that was fuckin funny
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Apparently they are "top notch". So everything is cleared up.
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