VERY Fishy pattern from a sponsor - GoFuckYourself.com

Nickless · 11-22-2005, 11:37 PM

Say you promote sponsor X with a paid spot on a MAJOR tgp...

Said sponsor offers both pps and revshare, you decide to try both since they both have their advantages, and paid spots are not particularly cheap, so you go ahead and mix some pay per signup and revshare galleries...

This sponsor pays $30 per trial when using pps, and like $1.something per trial when using revshare.

The days you have pps galleries up ($30 pps) you have very little to no sales at all.

The days you have revshare galleries up ($1.something), you get at least some sales, always more than pay per signup galleries days.

am i missing somerhing here? pure coincidence?

Trax · 11-22-2005, 11:47 PM

what affiliate software is the sponsor using
just out of curiosity

Nickless · 11-23-2005, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Trax

what affiliate software is the sponsor using
just out of curiosity

nats, why do you ask? just out of curiosity

Theo · 11-23-2005, 12:03 AM

in 2005 nothing should surprise you.

rml1608 · 11-23-2005, 12:04 AM

Without 30 days of each in data I would say it amounts to variance.. If the trend continues with more data, then I would point out which sponsor it is. However with NATS, it is much less likely anything funny is going on.

Weird fluctuations do occur though, and if you are basing it off of 3-4 days of data, it is just a coincidence IMHO

Sly · 11-23-2005, 12:06 AM

I think you need a lot more data to judge. It definitely may look strange, but trends are so difficult to spot. Some days I'm left looking at my stats, shaking my head and asking myself what the hell happened, haha.

Mike Okitch · 11-23-2005, 12:09 AM

It's all a conspiracy. Change sponsor every other week from now.

ytcracker · 11-23-2005, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

in 2005 nothing should surprise you.

same with the year 2525

Theo · 11-23-2005, 01:59 AM

word

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Nathan · 11-23-2005, 02:01 AM

Nickless,

if you want, contact me on ICQ so I can look into it for you.

Satisfaction · 11-23-2005, 02:03 AM

hmm who knows man..

phonesex · 11-23-2005, 02:05 AM

in this biz you have to constantly test other programs to see what converts better. You just have to test and retest. its just part of being a marketer.

chadglni · 11-23-2005, 02:12 AM

For the record, variance doesn't take 30 days to check into.

Linkster · 11-23-2005, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickless

This sponsor pays $30 per trial when using pps, and like $1.something per trial when using revshare.

Is there a difference in the trial price or tour when you go through using each affiliate link? Things to look at would be the landing page for each of the two links to make sure they are exactly the same (no traffic leaks etc), the join price is the same on the join page, and no changes in popup chains, cross-sale promotion etc

Some sponsors will send surfers to a different tour dependant on the type of referral you send them

11-22-2005, 11:37 PM	#1
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	VERY Fishy pattern from a sponsor Say you promote sponsor X with a paid spot on a MAJOR tgp... Said sponsor offers both pps and revshare, you decide to try both since they both have their advantages, and paid spots are not particularly cheap, so you go ahead and mix some pay per signup and revshare galleries... This sponsor pays $30 per trial when using pps, and like $1.something per trial when using revshare. The days you have pps galleries up ($30 pps) you have very little to no sales at all. The days you have revshare galleries up ($1.something), you get at least some sales, always more than pay per signup galleries days. am i missing somerhing here? pure coincidence?

11-23-2005, 12:04 AM	#5
rml1608 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central IL Posts: 985	Without 30 days of each in data I would say it amounts to variance.. If the trend continues with more data, then I would point out which sponsor it is. However with NATS, it is much less likely anything funny is going on. Weird fluctuations do occur though, and if you are basing it off of 3-4 days of data, it is just a coincidence IMHO __________________ ICQ : 253483920 DICK.IN \| RXAR.COM - ICQ OFFERS

11-23-2005, 12:06 AM	#6
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,340	I think you need a lot more data to judge. It definitely may look strange, but trends are so difficult to spot. Some days I'm left looking at my stats, shaking my head and asking myself what the hell happened, haha. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

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11-23-2005, 02:01 AM	#10
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11-22-2005, 11:47 PM	#2
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	what affiliate software is the sponsor using just out of curiosity

11-23-2005, 12:03 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	in 2005 nothing should surprise you.

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11-23-2005, 02:12 AM	#13
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	For the record, variance doesn't take 30 days to check into.