SEO Optimzation - Dynamic Pages coverting to static using .htaccess - GoFuckYourself.com

rml1608 · 11-18-2005, 01:46 AM

Here is my .htaccess :

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

This works perfectly fine - however when I change it to :

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

I run into problems ...

I am assuming I can't use [0-10000] etc, al ...

Since I am only running into a problem when adding the 4th digit there has to be a 'programming' reason why, any programmers here have any idea ?

paterson3713 · 11-18-2005, 01:51 AM

Why not do something like:

RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

Damian_Maxcash · 11-18-2005, 01:54 AM

Do a search for htacces

Someone did a post a little while ago that really covered it well.

rml1608 · 11-18-2005, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paterson3713

Why not do something like:

RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

Perfect, exactly what I was looking for - TYVM

paterson3713 · 11-18-2005, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rml1608

Perfect, exactly what I was looking for - TYVM

no problem.

lakroze · 11-18-2005, 03:57 AM

cool but...

as I know google reads dynamic pages already...

or I'm wrong ?

J.P. · 11-18-2005, 04:59 AM

Also you might want to consider this:

RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

Note the ? sign after / and before $

It should look like this:

RewriteRule ^category/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R]
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R]

This way you need only two lines instead of four but get the same functionality...

J.P. · 11-18-2005, 05:08 AM

Oops, sorry did not see the [R] at the end

My previous post is not 100% accurate...

I see you're trying to redirect the URLs without the trailing slash to a correct URL.

RewriteRule ^(category|joke)/([0-9]+)$ http://www.domain-name.com/$1/$2/ [R=301]
RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1
RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1

This would be the correctly optimized form... Note the [R=301] part, which forces the 301 response for your redirect...

I assumed you want to redirect the /category/999 URLs to /category/999/ don't you? With your code you were redirecting it to /index.php?sbcat_id=999

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-18-2005, 05:09 AM

Ahh nice.

Cloaking Variant.

Watch yer selves.

Marshal · 11-18-2005, 05:26 AM

this post was great! exactly what i needed atm!

J.P. · 11-18-2005, 05:33 AM

Why would this be cloaking? It's a standard procedure to convert those messy queries to human readable URLs.

DirtyProfits · 11-18-2005, 05:49 AM

Could you show me an example how that looks on a site?

fuzzylogic · 11-18-2005, 06:52 AM

yo
booyakasha

stop with the htaccess jokes. they is over my head.

rml1608 · 11-18-2005, 07:16 AM

"I assumed you want to redirect the /category/999 URLs to /category/999/ don't you? With your code you were redirecting it to /index.php?sbcat_id=999"

Sweet - that was the next issue I planned on tackling.. it was refreshing /category/999 to the /index.php?sbcat_id=999 format after putting it in the browser initially...

To the person who asked if Google indexes Dynamic pages, Shame on you!!! Just Kidding.. My ass got cased on HARD when I started a post about the subject a bit back ..

From what I have learned the last couple weeks of research they do, however they do not do it well at all. Google has hit my site with 2,450 requests and only indexed my index.html page. I think it is because EVERYTHING else on the site is dynamic - this will hopefully fix that problem.

Of course now my MySQL DB got screwed up somewhere along the lines last night and I have to figure out what I did there now .. No wonder I never get anything done, get something done just in time to break something that takes twice as logn to fix!

J.P. · 11-19-2005, 02:20 AM

How the hell did you break mySQL DB with mod_rewrite?

- Jesus Christ - · 11-19-2005, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.P.

How the hell did you break mySQL DB with mod_rewrite?

mod_deflate gave me AIDS....

be careful guys.

fallenmuffin · 11-19-2005, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakroze

cool but...

as I know google reads dynamic pages already...

or I'm wrong ?

That's true but they tend not to like .ext?var=value as much as /var/value.html

SicChild · 11-19-2005, 02:39 AM

........

paterson3713 · 11-19-2005, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallenmuffin

That's true but they tend not to like .ext?var=value as much as /var/value.html

That's correct. From what I've read, google might not apply a page rank to a dynamic page with too many parameters, or maybe not even at all. Apparently sometimes it won't even index it. I think it's still a debated topic so it would probably be best to use Search Engine friendly urls.

rml1608 · 11-19-2005, 03:07 AM

Debatable is putting it mildly - http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ogle+index+php is the last thread I started before I made the decision to clean my urls .....

Touchy Subject? Possibly A Reason?

I must be an asswipe to ask such a question, spending 30 hours researching it was 100X as productive - no information is free nowadays, outside the VERY BASICS ;)

A little bit of competition does good for a few reasons, can you guess? ;)

paterson3713 · 11-19-2005, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rml1608

Debatable is putting it mildly - http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ogle+index+php is the last thread I started before I made the decision to clean my urls .....

Touchy Subject? Possibly A Reason?

I must be an asswipe to ask such a question, spending 30 hours researching it was 100X as productive - no information is free nowadays, outside the VERY BASICS ;)

A little bit of competition does good for a few reasons, can you guess? ;)

Well, PHP pages are fine. The thing is, when a spider comes across a dynamic page with a bunch of parameters it probably doesn't want to index it because it's not really a "page" like "mypage.html" would be, it's more like a feed or something since the content could potentially be changing every pageload. So I think that's why people tend to just use search engine friendly urls.

J.P. · 11-19-2005, 05:41 AM

Apart of being SE friendly, they're also human friendly. People will easier remember http://www.somedomain.com/category/category-name.html than http://www.somedomain.com/index.php?...objectid=55725

Screaming · 11-19-2005, 05:55 AM

Best of luck to you on this 1 guy.

rml1608 · 11-19-2005, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paterson3713

Well, PHP pages are fine. The thing is, when a spider comes across a dynamic page with a bunch of parameters it probably doesn't want to index it because it's not really a "page" like "mypage.html" would be, it's more like a feed or something since the content could potentially be changing every pageload. So I think that's why people tend to just use search engine friendly urls.

Most php pages with alot of variables being called are like ..

http://www.domainname.com/script.php?xxxx etc

At the ? mark the search engines stop reading... at least a great deal of them do

uno · 11-19-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Ahh nice.

Cloaking Variant.

Watch yer selves.

11-18-2005, 01:46 AM	#1
rml1608 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central IL Posts: 985	SEO Optimzation - Dynamic Pages coverting to static using .htaccess Here is my .htaccess : Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R] RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R] RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 This works perfectly fine - however when I change it to : Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R] RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R] RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 I run into problems ... I am assuming I can't use [0-10000] etc, al ... Since I am only running into a problem when adding the 4th digit there has to be a 'programming' reason why, any programmers here have any idea ?

11-18-2005, 01:51 AM	#2
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11-18-2005, 04:59 AM	#7
J.P. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 689	Also you might want to consider this: RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 Note the ? sign after / and before $ It should look like this: RewriteRule ^category/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 [R] RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9]+)/?$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 [R] This way you need only two lines instead of four but get the same functionality... __________________ Webmasters! Looking for new affiliate programs to promote? Affiliate Program Search <-- Search for programs with FHGs, RSS feed, specific niche sponsors, ...

11-18-2005, 05:08 AM	#8
J.P. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 689	Oops, sorry did not see the [R] at the end My previous post is not 100% accurate... I see you're trying to redirect the URLs without the trailing slash to a correct URL. RewriteRule ^(category\|joke)/([0-9]+)$ http://www.domain-name.com/$1/$2/ [R=301] RewriteRule ^category/([0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbcat_id=$1 RewriteRule ^joke/([0-9][0-9][0-9])/$ http://www.domain-name.com/index.php?sbjoke_id=$1 This would be the correctly optimized form... Note the [R=301] part, which forces the 301 response for your redirect... I assumed you want to redirect the /category/999 URLs to /category/999/ don't you? With your code you were redirecting it to /index.php?sbcat_id=999 __________________ Webmasters! Looking for new affiliate programs to promote? Affiliate Program Search <-- Search for programs with FHGs, RSS feed, specific niche sponsors, ...

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11-18-2005, 01:54 AM	#3
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Do a search for htacces Someone did a post a little while ago that really covered it well.

11-18-2005, 03:57 AM	#6
lakroze Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 164924664 Posts: 3,527	cool but... as I know google reads dynamic pages already... or I'm wrong ?

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11-18-2005, 05:33 AM	#11
J.P. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 689	Why would this be cloaking? It's a standard procedure to convert those messy queries to human readable URLs. __________________ Webmasters! Looking for new affiliate programs to promote? Affiliate Program Search <-- Search for programs with FHGs, RSS feed, specific niche sponsors, ...

11-18-2005, 05:49 AM	#12
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11-18-2005, 07:16 AM	#14
rml1608 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central IL Posts: 985	"I assumed you want to redirect the /category/999 URLs to /category/999/ don't you? With your code you were redirecting it to /index.php?sbcat_id=999" Sweet - that was the next issue I planned on tackling.. it was refreshing /category/999 to the /index.php?sbcat_id=999 format after putting it in the browser initially... To the person who asked if Google indexes Dynamic pages, Shame on you!!! Just Kidding.. My ass got cased on HARD when I started a post about the subject a bit back .. From what I have learned the last couple weeks of research they do, however they do not do it well at all. Google has hit my site with 2,450 requests and only indexed my index.html page. I think it is because EVERYTHING else on the site is dynamic - this will hopefully fix that problem. Of course now my MySQL DB got screwed up somewhere along the lines last night and I have to figure out what I did there now .. No wonder I never get anything done, get something done just in time to break something that takes twice as logn to fix! Last edited by rml1608; 11-18-2005 at 07:18 AM..

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11-19-2005, 03:07 AM	#20
rml1608 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central IL Posts: 985	Debatable is putting it mildly - http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ogle+index+php is the last thread I started before I made the decision to clean my urls ..... Touchy Subject? Possibly A Reason? I must be an asswipe to ask such a question, spending 30 hours researching it was 100X as productive - no information is free nowadays, outside the VERY BASICS ;) A little bit of competition does good for a few reasons, can you guess? ;)

11-19-2005, 05:41 AM	#22
J.P. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 689	Apart of being SE friendly, they're also human friendly. People will easier remember http://www.somedomain.com/category/category-name.html than http://www.somedomain.com/index.php?...objectid=55725 __________________ Webmasters! Looking for new affiliate programs to promote? Affiliate Program Search <-- Search for programs with FHGs, RSS feed, specific niche sponsors, ...

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