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			 Goto yahoo, msn or overture. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Do a search for Raven Riley. Top link. It appears that its our main RR site, but when you click on it, a ref code gets attached. Noticed a drop in type in's, and found this out. Google seems normal though. Anyone know how this is done? Is it legit? Basically I feel like this guy found a way to take half of our type in income. 
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		 You might have teh spywares. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 when I mouse over it I see some google code, which might get mistaken for a referral code 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 yeah, if there is a referral code attached AFTER you click it in google, and when you land on raven's site....you have spyware dude....someone is jacking your referral codes 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 i don't see a ref code anywhere 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 who is www.wildlinecorp.com? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Most likely a spyware, but it could be a cloaked URL and some one has jacked your google listing. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 i think what he is seeing is the url that is there in the status bar when you mouse over the title: http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start...dex.php&e=9797 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I've noticed this also for my sites.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
	This is just one example http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=bikinivoyeur As you can see my affiliate with account 88 has the #1 spot. I've always just assumed his SEO skills are better than mine. Our affiliates' links for bvcash seem to get good placement for many keywords.  | 
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 i hate it when that happens though, makes me work twice as hard to gain the top spot for my sites back....in my mind, i should always retain the top spot for my own sites, i feel like I have missed out or lost if someone else gets it  | 
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		 no code attached here. Do the cookies stay for a while? is it possible you had a ref code in your cookies from surfing? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 and did no-one read that he said Google seemed fine?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 looks like the affiliate "MTE2NzozOjE" is working with yahoo 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 HAHA, i missed the google line 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	cause I see www.raveriley.com as the url, but it redirects to http://www.ravenriley.com/tour1/?nat...OjE&tour=tour2 almost like someone is spoofing the url of the site  | 
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		 is that some bizarre paid spot that i don't know about? i thought all the #'ed results we spcifically natural results? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I get #1 listings for certain sologirls with my refferal links on certain SEs.  I don't know how I do it, or how to replicate it with another girl.  Not cheating at all.... they just like my link.  The only thing I will say is "blog". 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Same deal for me on yahoo:  http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bik...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 jesus, with all those replies, i feel like sexeducation and his replying to himself shit....LOL...i am logging off now! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 You guys talk about making money and how you are all so 1337 and I read this thread and just have to laugh... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	#1 Jace (and half of everyone else) He said Google was the only SE that DIDN'T have the code... So stop with the, I don't see the code shit... Fucking morons... #2 To get your code to show up you just need to have the most links with your code. The reason Google is having less of this is that they actually respond to complants of this happening. #3 No spyware or cloaking involved and not a whole lot of SEO shit either. Usually the people who own these are people who post the most galleries (Remember gallery posting?)... #4 When you go to RR you will get a NATS code appended with the typein account. That is normal.  | 
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 Care to explain how they manage to have Yahoo show www.ravenriley.com but the link goes to www.wildlinecorp.com ? header redirect and slurp gets confused? Thanx, Steve 
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			 Facit Omnia Voluntas 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 "deal" as in doing business, buying spots, whatever. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Not "deal" as in some sort of private, bribed thing... Sorry for the misunderstanding. 
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			 I can change this!!!!! 
			
		
			
			
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		 Very odd indead. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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