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I don't have a beef with you SoS - since you chose to bring this to the board I am simply adding a different perspective. I've never been much good as a sheep.
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I'm not sure how many affiliates you have, and who is making significant money from your site, however I just took a look at your Alexa stats and it doesn't look like anyone would be losing much if you shut the site down... Today 209,397 1 wk. Avg. 674,705 3 mos. Avg. 331,763 ha 3 mos. Change (-209,443) Quote:
You say it's all about the the money with her, but if you think about it, that seems to be what you yourself are saying - that it's all about the money with you. What was the deal, straight pay for modeling, or was she supposed to get residuals from the site? Quote:
I abandoned a very profitable two year old site (which I still have tons of content for) due to a rather bad falling out with a model. I've never regreted that decision, although I wish the site were still up simply since it would help document the evolution of my online work, and like everything I do, it is as much a labor of love as it is about making money. Quote:
As for your concern for your affiliates, they made money while you made money. That's how it works. If the site suddenly stopped making money for whatever reason, that's the way things go. Again, I would probably not have ever brought this issue to the boards, where your affiliates can see it. Most of them should be able to realize that the site is going to bring diminishing returns since it has no future beyond the content you have yet to post. Also, if one of Julia's angry "friends" takes you out with a Louisville Slugger, I'm not sure who is going to take care of your affiliates then. That will probably be the least of your worries. There are lots of ways to make money, both in and out of the adult biz. It's much nicer to operate a business in a manner where you can sleep good at night, rather than to have to live in fear. Oh well, I guess you have thought everything through, just like Julia did when she signed on the dotted line. Anyway, good luck with your future endeavors, hopefully the third time will be a charm for you. ADG Webmaster |
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What if the guy who invented the T.V. decided that he made a bad decision, and wanted every T.V. in the world destroyed? Should we all destroy our T.V.'s because he had a change of heart? Same situation. :2 cents: |
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude...you are looking really dumb right now....the bitch signed a waiver. END OF STORY
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the waiver /contract is kind of a tough one on porn... Bring that to the court and see what the judge says about the gurl NOT WANTING TO BE IN PORN ANYMORE . In the end the model will get the last laugh not you. :(
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Not tru :) duke |
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I would love to see a Jerry Springer show based soley off of GFY I'd buy that for a dollar |
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That would be the day that I would give away her content to every newbie on the block for free so that they can get a headstart on their sites. I would then go to a printer, get about 20,000 colour copies of her pictures, go to the mall and put them on windshields. I would track every male that was involved in her life from the doctor that delivered her all the way up to her parents and give them copies of her pictures on glossy paper. Hell, I would put her spread eagle pictures on full display ads in the local newspapers if I could get away with it. Fuck with my income, you fuck with your life. |
sure it is , i saw it on people's court :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
Keep thinking that this industry is like any other and just because you got this "contract" with your talent there are many ways she/he can pull out and even go so far as having their content pulled off the internet as well. There can be so many loop holes in the contract if not written properly / effectively especially for PORN . So if you think this "contract" of your porno talent is going to save yah more power to you. |
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Nobody is forcing this girl to shoot. The shooting is done. End of story. Case closed. History cannot be erased, nor can this girls past of shooting dirty pictures. Pictures of her playing with her pussy are on thousands of computers around the world, and she said "ok, show me the money!" Why would a judge rule in her favor? What's he going to say? "Son of Sam, remove all of her dirty pictures from the interweb right now!" :-) By the way, SoS isn't the first person to have "model troubles". I'm willing to bet EVERY single girl affiliate program has model troubles. TNA, Dorm Bucks, Phil Flash, LIGHTSPEED, etc. Tiffany Teen will never leave the beautiful world of the Internet. The bricks have been laid. |
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<-----Pre Law. I know. Actually one of the first things we learned when they taught us about the way law is portrayed...and the way it really works. Next thing you're going to tell me is that judges use gavels. |
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I know of a handful that would LOVE the knowledge you have. |
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I would love to hear from other people in this business who have shot a lot of girls. More specifically, any that have been taken to court over a disgruntled model. I'm sure that it's been done at one point or another and if a webmaster was to pull the plug on a site every time a model changes her mind, we would have little more than 1978 Hustler scans to sell to surfers. |
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Sign here to acknowledge that all the pictures I shoot of you today _ / _ / _ now belong to me X _________________________________ put that on a fucking napking...have her sign it. find a loophole in that. |
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It's not the same thing...I was talking about what might be the right thing to do, not legalities. Legalities rarely stop Hell's Angels from stomping somebody that they have it in for. Perhaps I was wrong when I thought that SoS had Julia's best interests at heart. I would love to see Julia post in here about this. Apparently she sas not posted on GFY often though... if ever (interesting similarities in SoS's and Julia's posting style). ADG Webmaster |
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Didn't Jordan Capri find God? I'm sure she wouldn't mind having her sites taken down.
And what about Tiffany Teen? She bailed and said making a site was a huge mistake, etc, etc. I'm sure she would love to have her pictures taken down, too. I know of a few others, drawing blanks on names though. Man, I sold a site about 2 years ago that I really should have kept. Anyone know of any loop holes that will help me get my site back? |
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It's called money. |
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Make the girl eat it. Call Daddy for the money. |
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vancouver amateur talent, happened last year . Who signed a contract with the webmaster/photographer , she was young chick about 19y.o and decided she wanted to get out of the porn business after her hole paysite was developed and 30 picture sets and several movies were shot of her . Her site was online already .... The webmaster decides to sue her because he spent a shit load on her at that point NOTHING HAPPENED TO HER . SHe had a very high end lawyer as well . I still talk to her as of TODAY she was so glad she did it too . If u hit me up i will give you her MSN . Also, Like i said i saw it on People's Court not even joking on this one , a milf mature chick was being sued for "adult content" this was not internet related it was photos that was produced for magazines and flyers . The story was that she didn't want to being on adult industry anymore cause she was pregnant and having a baby , because she was having moral issues , the milf was hesitating to stay in the business and struggling cause she felt she was suffering "mental problems" . The dude had not only a contract but a video he brought in court to show she agreed to everything . The judge ruled in the milf' favour got off scotch free . |
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OK....you mentioned television court which is more morals and less legal precedent....and Canadian court which is just a fucking mess... :1orglaugh i dont know much about canadian law. sooooo good for her...sounds like a joke :1orglaugh |
sly you can hit me up i know you been wanting to for while anyways
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People's Court. Ahaha.
You should call Tiffany or Jordan, you'd be their new best friend! |
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My ICQ is 147479144. I'll have to find yours. |
I believe what Webgurl was trying to say is that if the contract and model release with the model is not perfect that it can be picked apart in court. I have seen many contracts in my time come across my desk that were laughable how badly they were put together and written. People leave themselves very unprotected, and those things can be exploited.
As far as bringing the loss of the model here, I find that to be a bad choice. This already lets webmasters know that there is no possibility of fan signs, custom themed content, live cam shows for members and many other things. Not to mention that soon the content will run out. :2 cents: |
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Tyson Beckford....Tyson fucking Beckford. You know the face of Ralph Lauren? The most recent face of Sean John....highest paid male model? Ya well that guy and all his money (MILLIONS) went after Playgirl because of their plans to publish pictures of him in his earlier years. GUess what happened? Playgirl presented model release forms, which was provided to them by the original photographer almost 10 years back. After 10years the model release form still held up and Tyson's case was thrown out. Where's Steve Lightspeed when you need him. |
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[Disgruntled Model] Hi daddy! [dad] Uh...hi! Long time no talk! Where have you been? [DM] Sorry dad, I was like busy shooting a film. [dad] I knew that all this money spent on acting classes would pay off some day. So, hollywood bound yet? [DM] Well, that's like really what I'm calling about like. See, I had like a nude scene and... [dad] nude scene [DM] Well, there was like more than one and I'd like to like buy them back. [dad] This isn't one of them porn sites is it? [DM] ...*sob* [dad] What's the url [DM] It's www.meatcurtain... [dad] Oh! I'm seeing it now! *fap fap fap* Oh yeaaaaaaaaah! [DM] DAD!!!!! [dad] Oh! You know where to get a fleshlight? |
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OK for the record.....I have seen 5 page model release forms. But I have also seen 1 page release forms....from big mainstream photographers, agencys, and ad agencys.
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in contracts are only in the movies . DOn't worry Sly i still luv you :thumbsup |
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Two cases you know of of thousands. Yep. You're right though. Models get judges to break legaly binding contracts allllll the time. :1orglaugh |
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maybe i need reading lessons but you need a reality check ... |
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yeah and you're also forgetting incidents like this happens on a daily basis and gets reported on GFY . :1orglaugh :1orglaugh |
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ok. The extent of your legal knowledge. :1orglaugh |
"There's a sucker born every minute".
- PT Barnum http://www.authentichistory.com/audi..._barnum_02.jpg So the moral of the story is that if you can befriend and then con some wide-eyed teenager into doing something that she soon after regrets, and you can make money doing so, then that makes it right. I agree, it's business, it's just not how I do business. ADG Webmaster |
ATTENTION ALL PROGRAM OWNERS: Most of your release forms are no good! Repeat NO GOOD! ALL YOUR CONTENT IS SUBJECT TO SEIZURE! So everyone who has done porn and now regret its can SUE!
This is the most ridiculous shit I've ever heard. Its definately bed time. |
I'll be sure to give this thread a bump in the morning for a few laughs. Night all.
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