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Old 11-14-2005, 02:18 PM   #1
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Anyone else see the irony of the new GFY Skin?

I do.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:19 PM   #2
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yep!

but it's one of those nice ironies
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:20 PM   #3
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kind of.... You see coke and pepsi in the same ads now too.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:20 PM   #4
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It happens... call it "co-branding"
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:20 PM   #5
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:21 PM   #6
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I dont.
What is it?
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:21 PM   #7
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yep.. I was just joking about it with the gf
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:22 PM   #8
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Playboy and Penthouse have different demographics anyway. One soft, the other hard.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:22 PM   #9
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Penthouse - advertised on a Playboy owned product...

What's wrong with this picture?
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:22 PM   #10
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Playboy and Penthouse have different demographics anyway. One soft, the other hard.
Penthouse is hard?
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:23 PM   #11
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still funny to see penthouse sucking playboys cock.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:24 PM   #12
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Penthouse is hard?
Used to be no... but the last few years they have had insertion, penetration and watersports... not to mention moneyshots.
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:27 PM   #13
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I guess ICS has some flexibility to operate.

Playboy would never run a Penthouse Ad in their mag,
But they would never run BigSausagePizza.com either....
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:27 PM   #14
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:29 PM   #15
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LOL awesome screenie...
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:29 PM   #16
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lol, thats a nice screen cap
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Old 11-14-2005, 02:30 PM   #17
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:02 PM   #18
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Playboy and Penthouse have different demographics anyway. One soft, the other hard.

I am lost . . . . which one is hard?
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:03 PM   #19
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I did but it is all buisness.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:04 PM   #20
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Penthouse - advertised on a Playboy owned product...

What's wrong with this picture?

Different dish networks are advertised on cable tv, so about the same difference.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:21 PM   #21
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The difference is the content... They are both print magazines, sure... they both have websites and webmasters programs... But they also are both fighting for free speech and without one, the other surely would have a much harder time with the fight.
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Old 11-14-2005, 03:25 PM   #22
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It is obvious that many of you guys have not seen a penthouse magazine since 1990, you will never see that material in playboy.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:39 PM   #23
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the new skin looks very good.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:40 PM   #24
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Nothing wrong with this picture. In this medium, it is normal.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:44 PM   #25
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I don't really see a reason why they whouldn't take the ads thought
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:59 PM   #26
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that was the 1st thing i thought too ;)
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Old 11-14-2005, 05:00 PM   #27
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We've been promoting reciprocal 'guest galleries' from competitor BDSM/fetish colleagues on our websites for years. Its a business-as-usual thing. It all comes down to target demographics.


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Old 11-14-2005, 07:23 PM   #28
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Looks like nothing has changed at all.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:27 PM   #29
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The checks will have Penthouse stamped on the right?

Man whoever cashes the first check please take a picture of the tellers reaction.
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Old 11-14-2005, 07:32 PM   #30
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it made me laf when I first saw it
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:05 PM   #31
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internet is not a magazine biz
porn surfers have no brand loyalty
if they did, playboy or hustler or penthouse or vivid would have been king long time ago.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:18 PM   #32
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:23 PM   #33
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Initially, I grinned a bit, but eh....money is money.
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:49 PM   #34
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internet is not a magazine biz
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if they did, playboy or hustler or penthouse or vivid would have been king long time ago.
Slavdogg,


I disagree. I think the internet is not brand-blind, it is full of micro-brands -
very narrowly defined sites which people feel are credible in a single topic.
Like www.sleepinginairports.net . People wouldn't buy airline tickets on the site but people trust it in if they have a long layover in Charles de Gaul airport.


For our brand, I think
1) everyone knows what it is
2) many people associate Penthouse with growing up
3) people feel more trusting that they won't get hidden cross sells or other bullshit which they hate and makes them go cancel before they enter the members area.

If even 1 guy in 500 is more likely to buy a membership with us because he trusts the brand, and the tour is otherwise just as good -> that is a significant increase in conversion rate.

I remember you posting good things about Vivid when they launched their program, and we had a much better earnings per click on other adult brands than the big webmaster programs.

Brand is peoples' preconceptions before they hit the tour. Penthouse by definition has part of the sale already done when the person clicks.


Thanks, mike
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Old 11-14-2005, 08:52 PM   #35
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I can see allot of old school penthouse fans jumping on board but for the new surfers I think it's free game.

I wonder if pentouse still has those dick docter ads (not that I need it)
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:44 AM   #36
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It's funny to see big names try to dominate the online world but fail horribly.
Time will tell...
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:47 AM   #37
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