Jeff....is this the same threatening tone and name calling that you use to scare other people into doing what you want them to do? I'm sorry bro...this does not work for me. I have no problem picking up the phone and talking with you, but all this name calling and this threatening tone will get you nowhere with me. Now, after you apologize for threatening me and calling me names....I'll "consider" calling you. :thumbsup

Where are you Dean? Come on! I have all afternoon to set you straight.

OMG this got really gay.

I mean it was gay before but it just got worse.

Fine.. Im sorry for calling you names, however, you should be equally as sorry for saying I dont pay my models. Give me a call and lets up this to rest. Im leaving on vacation in the morning and would love to go with a clear head.

734-968-0404

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Nice shot. :thumbsup

Thanks!

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do you think she is willing to blow Paul up after shooting ?
edited : I know its not Pauls pic - every1 can see right

i'd have to say mostly because they feel they have to....

Hahaha! Highly doubtful. For one, she speaks english and two, she makes more then $1000.00 a year. She does not need Paul as bad as those poor girls in Prague do. I call it taking advantage.

Hmmmm suck Pauls dick so I can pay rent next month or dont and never get hired back. hmmmmm.

Jeff, I didn't say that you didn't pay your models. I simply said that Paul pays his. You must have a guilty concious or something? :1orglaugh

Listen, next time you want to have a phone conversation with somebody, maybe threatening them and calling them names is not the best approach. Who wants to have a conversation with someone who can't control their emotions and their behavior? I sure don't! Your a loose canon Jeff! I would just end up hanging up on you and that would probably piss you off even more and your ol' blood pressure probably ain't what it used to me huh?

If you want to be treated and respected as a professional - you need to start acting like one. Constantly changing your identity and lying about who you really are is not something that a professional would do. Sending threatening emails to models to pressure them into keeping their mouth shut about their experience working with you is not something that a professional would do. I think your damn lucky that anybody would do business with you after all the shit that you've pulled but I guess there's room for everybody in this industry. Nothing surprises me anymore about people in this industry :Oh crap

A professional model should be able to fake (act) like she wants to fuck you while she is in front of the camera. Photo lights go off, she gets dressed and is on her way...

I get your concept Paul, this is not the first time you have explained it on GFY.

The way you're painting the picture you'd have to fuck every model to get quaility product for your clients. Guess I'll leave the content production to you and Araon. I don't want to fuck every model (maybe half of 'em?). BTW Do any Tranny content? Does the same thing apply? Just given ya shit Paul. Enjoy!

A Good Photographer Would Never Sleep With His Model

Work Is Work

Be Fucking Professional

Very talented models in the picts!

Duh what was the question again???? Yes i understand the question and i was making a statement, not neccesarily towards you. I would never fuck any of the models that come through our studio, and i have a rule that my crew is also not allowed to touch them while in the studio either or i fire them on the spot. Bragging that you fuck the models is just stupid.

to advance their career your the new Hef

he's not a photographer, but i agree

Please dont play coy Dean. You knew exactly what you were implying. Spin it anyway you like. There was purpose in yoru statement and you know it as did everyone else that read it. Dont insult yourself.

You dont know me well enough to know if I am a loose canon or not. Im about the easist going guy you were ever meet. However, being attacked here on a daily bases with claims such as you have made makes me very defensive an franky, I have a right to defend myself in the manner I see fit. If you had been a professional, you would have contacted me, got my side of the story on this issue, not brought it to gfy and at least hadenough info to make an informed decison on the actual events. Trust me, it was FAR from the way you have painted it. And you know full well that models always tell he "truth". I know three other photographers, two of which you know well that have had very similar expeniences with this girl. Shes a known liar. There also another programthat shot her who she trashed when she was shooting for us. Same exact sitauation. Come to find out.. those claims she made were untrue also. I will give you the info in private of course. Shes a sweet as pie and sucked me in also... I never let models and their families stay at my home, but I did her their case. Like a fool.. I trusted her and her husband and I NEVER gave them a reason to not trust me. I sent her an email with what was going on and the first words out of her mouth were "FUCK YOU JEFF". After all I did for her and booking her, paying her ontime, everytime, avancing them 1500.00 for her wedding ring so she coud get married. Advancing them $500.00 so they could take teir daughter away for the weekend and I get a "Fuck You"? I dont think so. Regardless, I did exactly what I said I would do and when I said I would do it... a day early in both cases. My only regret is that I dont have that young lady taking depositions with my Laywer right now. Talking about "her expeiences" is one thing... making up lies and mis-representing the truth is another.

I went after you because you were making claims without having al the info. I will do it again, without hesitation. Im a very easy going guy Dean and a ton of fun actually, but Im not some kid that is going to just roll over when soemone throws a dart.

You are intitled to your opinion of course, but as a professional, make sure its an informed one before you hit the send button.

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Your a good one to be telling me what is and isn't professional. I'm not the one who changes my nic regularly and lies about who I am. I'm not the one who spent all that time and energy trying to convince everyone that I was somebody else. When you grow the fuck up and start taking some responsibility for who you are, what you've done and how you act...then you and I can have a mature convo.

Congratulations, I've just added you to my ignore list. You and AlienQ should be honored. You two dipshits deserve each other.

Say whatever you wanna say Jeff - I will not be reading or responding to anymore of your pathetic excuses. You want so badly for people to believe that your a good honest guy but your past cannot escape you.

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LOL...

What a joke.

because the pro shooter knows how to talk to the girl to get the shots he needs.

and if he's doing his job right she feels very special and very beautiful during the shoot, and things do get pretty intimate, pretty close.

and if the photographer is the least bit attractive and he wants the girl, he can usually have the girl.

been there. done that (many times) in my formative years.

they like?....

Simple, a women's sexual drive is powered by men with Power. A photographer has power when it comes to Models, so they are turned on.

Same thing goes for nurses towards their bosses etc.




Oh and the fact that most women are total sluts is also a keyfactor.

too me fucking models is very very unprofessional.

I worked in the strip club busine3ss for 11 years and I can tell you that the majority of strippers are having sex with DJ's, bartenders and managers at an alarming rate. It is not about the money because if it was they would be sleeping with the customers more than they do. I was never able to find the root of the phenomenon, but then again I did not really have the time to look. I was mainly too busy banging strippers to concern myself with the esoteric.

Cool you cant read it.... SUCK MY MOTHER FUCKING COCK YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dude i was just trying to be nice. YOu want ot ignore other side of the story, thats cool. She must have gave you some ass. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Thats the only thing that justifies your lack of interest in the other side of the story. haha

Fine, ignore me. Other then you rpic, you have nothing of value anyways.

:321GFY

some threads are really amazing...

for the records: i never fucked any model... - but i know it happens. but when it happens: please after the shooting and without any pressure like "blow me or i don't pay you". i heard things like that happen - and that's truly sick. :2 cents:

That's a little ironic coming from you! :winkwink: Of course, it's a little different when you're married to the model.

Well any girl would cost $1,000 a day, the girls you fuck obviously think they are going to be working more days. Just my 2 cents. Just a response to that particular post, not the thread.

Simply: women fuck males that they are around a lot. If you work with someone your chance to bang them is raised :)

In my three years as talent, I NEVER fucked a photographer or, for that matter, any other talent I worked with.

Wow... some of you get really fooled about models being all turned on "for real" during a shoot. When I was working, I was so busy thinking about camera angles, getting the best positions, creating the right mood for the shoot, and getting the best content possible that I was not at all interested in any off-the-books sex after a gig! In fact, I'd usually be off the menu for my guy that night too!

Those of you who fuck the talent, get your action somewhere else! Just because we're good at convincing you that we're all hot and horny for the camera, don't try and get a little piece for yourself! That's very icky!

Could not have been better said. I totally agree with you.

I know a thing or two about this reject also. One thing I've seen (that you may not have) is his photo sets in their entirety. Jeff's photography has improved very little if any since perfectiongirls. His indoor photography looks like video captures that are dark and often out of focus. Jeff's photography is so bad that it actually qualifies as being fraudulent. If you do your homework "BAD NEWS JEFF" should be avoided at all costs. :warning

I dont know..tell us why.

likewise..


Maybe these guys are referring to the thai whores they use for content.. maybe they are shooting all euro whores will will do almost anything for a buck or a fuck and a green card.. who knows.. there are so many different models and so many different aspects to porngraphy/photography..that a cut and dry answer will never be found or agreed upon

I'm a photographer and a pornographer. I'm not saying I have slept with all the models I have shot, but it does happen. I never push myself on anyone, actually I'm quite the opposite.

I think its a combination of things. Some models do get horney after they have been working for hours naked. Compared to most photographers, I'm pretty young ...31 .. and not bad looking. To be honest, when it does happen, it doesn't take much when I shoot before she starts getting frisky with me. I would say 75% of the models I shoot have hit on me first.

The reason one shoots a model over and over at $1000 a day is simple. I can make good money on her shoot and have fun with her while doing it. My business comes first, so if I can make money, why wouldn't I shoot her again. And if she happens to be great in bed .... well then I'd be getting a bonus when I shoot her.

Yep. I am the same way. As the cliche goes, "Don't get your meat where you make your bread".

It's not that some don't try. But I think in a business that has a lot of focus on your 'reputation' in the area where you live, it would make it difficult to be fucking all your models. Not to mention unethical, and professional.

I do not concern myself with those who do fuck their models, coworkers. I am just not going to risk my business, or create unnessesary drama just to get a fotojob or something. It's not worth it to me. I've seen plenty who DO fuck them, and they always have some powerkeg going off. Or borderline big ass drama that is just not worth the headaches.

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i dont care how many models anyone in this thread fucked
i dont care how good your pics are
i dont care how cheap or expensive your sets are

i like to buy content from people that arent asshats

Cause the bed in the suite is more comfy than the couch?
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Usually it is the model who wants to sleep with the shooter. For some reason this is weired because they have all those guys out there who want to get into their panties, but with a photographer it is the other way around. It's a nice world :-)

Ya have to know a thread like this would end up this way...