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Worldsex & Al4a Listings OVERSOLD: Pissing Webmasters Off
I see threads on here that keep cropping up, like this one, of webmasters complaining, Pierre, that your listings are oversold. We're starting to get ridiculous amounts of declines. Get your act together or you'll have webmasters peeling off from your paid submissions like mad.
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Never tried it but i have to say A LOT of people seem to be bitching about these passes.
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People will pay for this no matter what.
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Submit passes is a get rich quick scheme few TGP owners can/will balance it so buyers are happy instead they want to make as much as possible in the shortest possible time.
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What is the downside for him to oversell? Once you hear it is undersold everyone will rush back in.
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Those monthly passes do no justice for those of us who only submit on average two times per week
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I tried it for 1 month too, submitted movie gallerys with 5 20sec clips on each gallery and 2 sponsor ads. Got 1 listing out of 20 submits.....
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if you want to get ripped off just buy a premium submitters account from worldsex/al4a |
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Just talked to Pierre, he will answer / comment here tomorrow.
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It all depends on how you look at it.. If you're going to spend all your time submitting 50 galleries a month then of course you'll turn profit |
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A single Worldsex listing often brings makes me more than the entire month's account. I have multiple accounts, too. I'm sorry if you suck.
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Seems someone is pissed.
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Hmm, this biz is funny
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worldsex/al4a is way oversold. Worldsex doesn't even send accept/denial emails anymore and basically only al4a seems to list.
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From: Support <[email protected]> Subject: Your gallery submitted to Worldsex has been approved |
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seems to work just great for me
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I get those 'rather list other emails' when I post content from popular sponsors.
When I post content from lesser known sponsors I almost always get accepted.
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all you guys that are having probelms are you submitting over promoted sponsors?
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You have to look at which sponsor you're promoting and which content you're using. If there are a few other people with passes promoting the same site using the same content then obviously your listings will be much less frequent. Some of you people act like you've been guaranteed X number of listings a month for your $100 submit pass. That's not the case. Also, Pierre is smart enough to know that if he doesn't list you, you're not going to renew. So obviously if he's not listing you he has a good reason. (probably that the content has already been seen recently on his site or the sponsor is being promoted heavily by many people) |
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Let me add my 2 cents... I'm not speaking about world or al4a.
I tried a 3mth pass for a well known tgp and I've had similar problems. Because of it, I didn't renew. To be honest, I've only had a few gal's listed and my sites aren't widely mass marketed, yet, I see the same guys being listed over and over and over! Their galleries aren't better than mine and the content isn't better. Their using the content that others are using. I've had a few reasons like poor quality, poor design, bla, bla, bla... most places I submit, I get listed without the bs. I'll probally try other passes to see what works ![]() |
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I cancelled my account 2 months ago as I wasn't certain it was making me money. I had the recips on a page with another big site I paid to submit to. Turns out it was my AL4A listing that was making a killing for me and not the other site I thought.
So just this month I got my account back and so far in 2 1 week I haven't been listed once. Before I was listed on AL4A almost all the time. Warchild says sorry if you suck to another guy but thats not true. I certainly don't suck at submitting and I'm not getting listed anymore. Maybe Pierre is sticking by the people who have been paying the longest or something. |
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They don't fucking care! A natural balance has to occur and the only way to do that is to sell as many as people want and let them decide the value.
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I would say 85% of my listings are getting accepted.... So yiu might need better content, or just make different galleries. Or just cancel your pass
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But I realise now that my sales when I had the pass first time round were incredible from them. I'm talking 4-6 sales per listing from a movie gallery on a well used sponsor! Now to I'm using 3 new sponsors only months old and also some not so popular ones but they do well for me! |
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I`ve submited 3 galleries this month and all of them where accepted on both - worldsex and al4a. Unique content + PaintShopPro makes wonders
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Working fine for me. I would like to know why they dont list Met Art thou.
He dose seem to list certian sponsors more than others.
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if you need traffic to your galleries I would urge you to look at:
http://www.buygalleryspots.com if you need traffic for your TGP(s) I would urge you to look at: http://www.sellgalleryspots.com just my 2 eurocents |
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You're a fucking tool. You're not getting what you want and the only possible answer HAS to be that Pierre all of a sudden decided to rip everyone off. It can't possibly be your galleries, content, sponsors, etc etc. It's like the webmaster who has a shitty week and it just HAS to be the sponsor shaving him, there can be no other reasonable explanation why his sales are down. People like you need to grow the fuck up. |
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He must get overwhelmed with submissions..just move on
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Tommys Bookmarks, A plus number one!
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