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Old 03-19-2002, 07:37 AM   #51
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12clicks still trying to save your failing business?
I figured Greentea was a russian.
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Old 03-19-2002, 07:39 AM   #52
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Old 03-19-2002, 08:14 AM   #53
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Labret and All?.

Clay can take care of himself, but I want to say something to you: Don't question a man's (or woman's) honesty. Especially not Clay Andrews. Clay is one of the most honest people you could ever hope to know. As for the "chain jerking", just ask around? NOBODY lost one cent on EPOCH - that's because EPOCH is honest. As for payment problems, sure, we had them. But our clients, new and old, got and are getting paid - on time. Next issue.

As for the new rule, it is really simple: We (CCBill, iBill, EPOCH, Jettis, etc?) don't make the rules, but we have to enforce the rules. Webmasters have to live by them. If we all do that, we get to keep processing and you get to keep making money and our employees get to keep feeding their families and it goes on. If we don't, game over.

As for those of you that can't handle the new rules, play another game. We don't like censorship. We also don't like 2.5% chargeback ratios for Visa or 1% for MasterCard, Spammers, Child Pornographers or any form of Flan. Some things we can control - most we can't. We just have to follow the rules.

Maybe the boards are not the place to let people know about rules or any business issues. I don't know. All I know is that in our effort to inform Webmaster of a new Visa rule, we get to listen to the haters beat their old worn-out drums. Does anyone remember when you did not know a rule existed until they turned off your merchant account at your bank? We remember and we are not letting that happen again due to a lack of knowledge. In our opinion: Knowledge is power. EPOCH is sharing knowledge for the benefit of EVERYONE, not just our clients.

Thanks to all of you that "get it". To Labret, GFY.


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Old 03-19-2002, 08:17 AM   #54
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12clicks still trying to save your failing business?
no, my business failed long ago. I just pretend to do business now.
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Old 03-19-2002, 10:12 AM   #55
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this is business. as long as you're in it violating the law, you can do whatever you want. if you don't personally like something, go on a peaceful protest or sth... but don't throw fit in the shan 'cause it will come back to you and make ya look really stupid.

regarding epoch - i still have recall those ugly memories about checks that never showed up...

regarding ccbill - too much scrubbing, i guess...

regarding ibill - oh, well...

anyway, greentea - just go and buy a dvd...
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