Anyways I will just shut up now.

Kimmy rocks.... http://www.studioadult.com/assets/rockon.gif

HYPOCRATE!!!!
It's all over this place!

Now you asking other corp. like cc processor to do just like what you want... that' bullshit. It's the same if someone ask the hun how to do his bussiness. If you don't like your cc processor then DO NOT join to any sponsor who use it as their cc processor!!

And please do not teach someone about ethics because if you are involved in porn industries whether a porn site owner or a webmaster who advertise it then you forget the ethic already unless if you don't involved in porn bussiness or you found someone breaking the law. Got it, wiseman?!! :ticking

Sooo fucking true! You took the dick right out of my mouth!

And people come here acting like fucking saints when it's very likely that one of their most recent galleries was pics of a drug addicted young girl taking her clothes of for money (no, most of the models aren't nymphos who just "looooves" to fuck).

Retards! Censour your own sorry asses.

well shit happen and ccbill and ibill close for beast site can you always use www.beastdialer.com
I do it and i make more money on the dialer in the pay sites

If CCBILL or any other creditcard processor would not follow the rules of VISA, Mastercard or any other creditcard company - they will be history.

So until we hear anything directly from VISA we can't really speculate.

Oh and Samran, go play around with your little dialer somewhere else.

"So until we hear anything directly from VISA we can't really speculate."

... from epoch´s website:

Monday March 18, 2002

Visa To End Processing for Bestiality Sites:
Epoch learned today that VISA will no longer allow processing of any transactions for bestiality websites.

This new regulation, which Epoch fully supports, is much like the recent lolita, peda and preteen rule. At this time we do not know the effective date for this new action. As always we will keep the webmaster community informed as this develops. As everyone knows, Epoch maintains a Zero Tolerance Policy for content of this nature.

greenpee, you should teach KK and ccbill a lesson and stop processing both of your joins with them. The loss will surely make them treat with you on an equal level.

12clicks still trying to save your failing business?

I figured Greentea was a russian.

Figured Wrong

Labret and All?.

Clay can take care of himself, but I want to say something to you: Don't question a man's (or woman's) honesty. Especially not Clay Andrews. Clay is one of the most honest people you could ever hope to know. As for the "chain jerking", just ask around? NOBODY lost one cent on EPOCH - that's because EPOCH is honest. As for payment problems, sure, we had them. But our clients, new and old, got and are getting paid - on time. Next issue.

As for the new rule, it is really simple: We (CCBill, iBill, EPOCH, Jettis, etc?) don't make the rules, but we have to enforce the rules. Webmasters have to live by them. If we all do that, we get to keep processing and you get to keep making money and our employees get to keep feeding their families and it goes on. If we don't, game over.

As for those of you that can't handle the new rules, play another game. We don't like censorship. We also don't like 2.5% chargeback ratios for Visa or 1% for MasterCard, Spammers, Child Pornographers or any form of Flan. Some things we can control - most we can't. We just have to follow the rules.

Maybe the boards are not the place to let people know about rules or any business issues. I don't know. All I know is that in our effort to inform Webmaster of a new Visa rule, we get to listen to the haters beat their old worn-out drums. Does anyone remember when you did not know a rule existed until they turned off your merchant account at your bank? We remember and we are not letting that happen again due to a lack of knowledge. In our opinion: Knowledge is power. EPOCH is sharing knowledge for the benefit of EVERYONE, not just our clients.

Thanks to all of you that "get it". To Labret, GFY.


Chris Mallick
CEO
EPOCH

no, my business failed long ago. I just pretend to do business now.

this is business. as long as you're in it violating the law, you can do whatever you want. if you don't personally like something, go on a peaceful protest or sth... but don't throw fit in the shan 'cause it will come back to you and make ya look really stupid.

regarding epoch - i still have recall those ugly memories about checks that never showed up...

regarding ccbill - too much scrubbing, i guess...

regarding ibill - oh, well...

anyway, greentea - just go and buy a dvd...