Yea - I guess it was. Especially since you thought it was cool to send threatening emails to those involved about how you would prosecute them if they spoke a word of this to anyone. It must suck to have to treat people like that Jeff. You totally fuck somebody and then threaten them with legal action if they try to warn others about doing business with you. You must be proud of yourself and how you run your business. One day you'll fuck with the wrong person Jeffrey and guess what? :BangBang:

Next time you make contact with our "mutual friend" and threaten her with your shit again - I guarantee you things will get very ugly for you and you will not be a happy camper when this is over. I have people on standby Jeff ready to take action against you and your threatening emails. Next time you send out a fucking email threatening somebody...you need to think twice bro'. That was some very uncool shit to do.

I hope you keep your nose clean Jeff - I'm keeping an eye on you man...and so are some of my friends in the industry :winkwink:

You clearly have one side of the story from a a flat out, bald face liar. Im sure they didnt tell you how I advanced them money. How I loaned them more money off her contract so she could buy her wedding ring. Im sure they didnt tell you that when I was not paid the balance on the job where she was the model, I had to pay that balance out of my own pocket. I honored my contract with her even though I was left with an unpaid balance. Why, because it was the right thing to do. Im sure they dindt mention that when I told them I had not got paid and there would be a delay on the balance of her contract, she and her husband threated me with going public that I didnt pay. This is after I had already paid them $5000.00, they stayed in my home and called me their friend. I had every right to be stern and threated legal action. They knew that if they came out and said I had not paid them that it would really hurt my reputation. They falt out told me that they would ruin me if I didnt pay them. There threat was leveled far before I had to level mine. Regardless... they agreed to a short payment schedule. It was paid on time, to the letter of that schedule. Our agreement was that if I made those two installments to them, out of my own pocket, that they would not say a word to anyone and be very happy. They didnt hold up their end of the deal now did they Dean, and I have every right to be pissed and handle it the way I did. I only threatened legal action when I knew they had breached our agreement and been talking to people like you and others. On the other hand, they threatened me and my business i fI didnt pay to their terms. I have the emails to back it all up.

You really should get both sides of the story Dean. You dont even know the half of it. I should let you talk to my Asst. Gina and the others that were involved with this model. All I can say Dean, is if you are working with her, watch your back. I dont think shes a bad person, just desperate.

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btw Dean... these were people I called friends and that said over an over they they were my freind. We have a very good relationship, they stayed at my home, ate at my table and became very close. I was hurt over the way they treated me since it was clear our friendship was meaningless. They extorted me and used exposure as there ammo to get what they wanted. We had an agreement and they broke it. Your post is further proof of that. If I didnt honor my agreement then I should expect to face legal action. Why when I model breaks her agreement is it different?

First of all - you shouldn't be scheduling models for shoots if you don't have the money to pay them Jeff. Secondly, it sounds like you thought because you guys were "friends" that you could jerk them around when it came time to pay them what you owe them. Instead of paying her what you owe her you want to tell her that your client hadn't yet paid you...which is complete bullshit and you know it. Looks like you tried to take advantage of their friendship by stringing them along until you got some more money in your account to pay them what you owe them. Dude, if you would straighten the fuck up and do the right thing and treat people the way you would want to be treated....none of that would have happened. Any photographer who hires girls for shoots and then can't pay them is a scammer in my book :Oh crap

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btw Jeff - you've fucked more people out of more money then anyone here probably knows about. You even lied to everyone here about who you were. If you think I would take your word over that models your fucked in the head. I'm a great judge of character and I can tell you without question that your full of bullshit. I spent a few days shooting that girl and she's one of the nicest and sweetest girls I've ever worked with. At the end of the shoot I paid her what she was owed and she went home. That's how professionals do it Jeff!

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Woj - not fast enough for this one bro :winkwink:

Not the case. Clearly we had the funds to pay the model. I had 13k plus invested into this job. I had an $13k balance due from a client that had paid $11k toward the job. Not like I didnt have history with this cleint and they had never not done what they said they were going to do before. Her contract clearly states that She was to be paid $1500.00 on her first shoot and $1000.00 each shoot thereafter until the job was complete. We did that like clockwork.. everytime. He contract also states thatthe balance of the contract would be paid when the cleint pays they remaining balance. With thsi client its never a day or two after shippment that I am paid. This time, it didnt work out that way. I got left holding the bag, lost all my profits and still had to honor her contract, since it was with me. There was no way that I would ever let a model say I didnt pay her, regardless of the situations and she knows how strongly I feel about that. We talked about that very thing many times before this situation came up. When I found out I wasnt going to be oaid my balance, yes, I went to her as a friend and explained the situation and ask for two weeks to pay her the reamaining $4500.00 Not a thing wrong with asking a fiiend for a bit of understanding in a situation like that. She freaked and threatened to tell everyone that I wasnt going to pay her and that I was ripping her off if I didnt pay her right then. Keep in mind... this was just minutes after I was the best thing since sliced bread to them. She was treated like gold here and she knows it. She was paid on time, everytime and I went way above the call of duty to advance them money on two occasions. Regardless on how she spins this I did exactly what I said I would do and they did not. I followed the letter of our contrat and personal agreement and they did not.

Whats really interesting is that a photographer in this industry would jump to the defense of a model in this indusrty without having all the information infront of them. But of course Dean.... models have never lied to you. I bet I cold find 20 models that would say you cheated them or ripped them off. Would any of it be true.... highly doubtful. Thats what alot of them do though.... trash talk people they have worked with. It goes on day in and day out. When she was here with me she was trashing after big program owner who I will not mention here. Telling me how she was ripped off a cheated. Now she went to you and I was that guy.... a wold lay money that they next guy she shoot with will hear shit about you. Im not sure why I am telling you this... you have been around long then i have. You should be explaining this to me.