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MagicksAntics · 03-06-2002, 02:19 PM

My spam doesn't get creative, so you will have to deal with the good old-fashioned kind

Insite Adult is proud to announce two new highly-requested websites to it?s popular 4FreeBucks program: 4FreeVoyeur and 4FreeVideo!

Only 4FreeBucks offers webmasters the Voyeur and Video niches in a 4Free model, which has conversions on average of 1:10-1:15 on exit, tgp, and other hard-to-convert traffic. In addition, Insite offers an entire selection of high-quality banners, half, and full page ads ready to promote these brand new sites.

If you have voyeur or video traffic, these sites are the ones to promote! Also, we do special deals for large amounts of traffic, so send an email to [email protected] if you are interested and we?ll do some business!

Thanks!

tempra · 03-12-2002, 08:10 PM

what do you think about them? will they pay? LOL

tempra · 03-12-2002, 08:28 PM

what do you think about them? will they pay? LOL

4Pics · 03-13-2002, 02:35 AM

pretty sure this was already announced here.

So this is a 2nd spam of this.

ldinternet · 03-13-2002, 05:55 AM

Well, I have a recurring problem with my Insite Investment checks.

Zebra · 03-13-2002, 07:44 AM

4pics - I know you have a brain. This IS the first post. When someone replies to an announcement that does not make it a 2nd spam...doh!

ldinternet - drop me a line and I will be glad to talk to you about any problems you may be having with us. We send out thousands of checks every period and sometimes we do make mistakes. I see that you are overseas and that only increases the chances of a gremlin being involved.

Not to make excuses, but our offices are located in Northern New Jersey and all mail we send goes thru the Patterson Mail Center. If you remember right after Sept.11 Patterson is where the letters with Anthrax went thru and once they figured that out the mail going thru there basically stopped and was held for a very long time. That played havok with our check sending for several months and has only seemed to return to somewhat normal in the past couple months...again, not making excuses, just saying that this could have attributed to any problem you may have had and basically I just think it is pretty weird how the whole 9-11/terrorism thing affected even an adult company.
Anything you have a problem with? Please drop me a line zebra AT insiteadult.com and I will try to help you out.

BTW.. 4FreeVideo and 4FreeVoyeur are kicking ass right now and have quickly become our #1 converting sites. Take a look and you will see why

ldinternet · 03-13-2002, 08:13 AM

Okay, you've got mail.

Zebra · 03-13-2002, 08:24 AM

ldinternet - mail received and I will have an answer for you in a bit..
Anyone else with any problems or questions regarding Insite Adult feel free to contact me. We are a very visible company and have been around since '96. We got to every major show and exhibit along with the other reputable sponsors. We don't hide and don't have any reason to..

Adult Movie Cash · 03-13-2002, 09:31 AM

The link to your TOS don't work

railz · 03-13-2002, 09:33 AM

Zebra what's your email?

greentea · 03-13-2002, 09:37 AM

sounds like spam to me...,

Zebra · 03-13-2002, 09:42 AM

railz - zebra AT insiteadult.com

Zebra · 03-13-2002, 10:09 AM

BTW - the link to the TOS on 4freebucks.com works now.. that is what happens when you try to put up a redesign while sick from food poisoning with a 104 degree fever.. thank god for steroids..kicked that shit right out of my system!

Planet Bob · 03-13-2002, 10:45 AM

Be sure to have converting trafic before sending it to their 4free programs.....

Story Time:

I sign up to their 4free program and it converted fine (on my end) and then suddenly my account were suspened without any notic. I sent them 2 mails but with no response.

A couple of weeks later I read a post about them and someone posted a ICQ.... i grabed it and contacted him (MagicX or something like that). He told me to mail samantha and so i did... tralalalala no response... I contacted MagicX again but he sayd he couldn't do anything.

Then more weeks passed and I suddenly recieved a "Hallo-how-are-you-mail" from them. I responded and explained my story. The person responded (woohoo!) and told me that I had 2 accounts which isn't allowed..... darn my bad. But since both accounts were suspeded I asked this person to unlock one but nothing happend... then later I mailed him/her again still no response.....

EOF

I did have 2 account yes but why could't they simply unlock one of them? Oh well I guess my trafic wasn't converting....sigh.

Rgs PB

MagicksAntics · 03-13-2002, 11:19 AM

Planet Bob,

It will be easier to address this issue if you give me your account name...I do not recall speaking with anyone named "Planet Bob" over ICQ. I will be happy to address this issue with you, however, I cannot unless I know exactly who you are.

Additionally...I am not a "he".

Zebra · 03-13-2002, 12:14 PM

Planet Bob - Let me assure you that if you had an account suspended it was NOT for having poorly performing traffic..if sponsors suspended accounts with poor signup ratios they would be shooting themselves in the head. Sponsors LOVE people who send poorly converting traffic to a per-signup program because that is traffic they can turn around and resell or reuse.
While we would love to have everyone convert poorly and keep sending us traffic (we would be getting something for nearly nothing, ya see?) we would not keep many affiliates because they would not be making any money!
We work with our affiliates to get them the conversions that they need to see to keep them happy and keep sending us traffic. They get good conversions and make good money and they are happy and keep sending to us which keeps us happy.
We have many happy webmasters who get GREAT conversions and make lots of money and are VERY happy..which makes us VERY happy

railz · 03-13-2002, 05:20 PM

Zebra - you have mail.

Planet Bob · 03-14-2002, 01:21 AM

@ Magic: ups.... sorry :

@ Zebra: i'll shoot you a mail when I get home - l8r.

Rgs PB

MagicksAntics · 03-14-2002, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Planet Bob
@ Magic: ups.... sorry :

@ Zebra: i'll shoot you a mail when I get home - l8r.

Rgs PB

Planet Bob, I'm still waiting on your account name...

?

Joe Blow · 03-16-2002, 05:02 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MagicksAntics
[B]My spam doesn't get creative, so you will have to deal with the good old-fashioned kind

Insite Adult is proud to announce two new highly-requested websites to it?s popular 4FreeBucks program: 4FreeVoyeur and 4FreeVideo!

MagicksAntics
I was going to send your program some traffic until I saw all those exit consoles (and there were SHITLOADS) that pop up when the surfer leaves 4FreeVideo... none of which have my referrer link ANYWHERE ON THEM!

Show us webmasters a little more respect, ok

Zebra · 03-16-2002, 09:20 PM

Joe Blow - Give us some respect, eh?
It is true that we do not give credit on our exit consoles, but it is also true that we do not deduct for cancelled signups and that we accept, count, and credit ALL traffic, including foreign traffic which makes up 40% of the traffic into our sites.
Different sponsors do things different ways. No 4Free sponsor out there gives you credit for exit sales AND no deductions. Join4Free gives credit on exit consoles and takes deductions.
We don't give credit on exit consoles but we let you keep all your signups, even if they cancel. We think things balance out.
You have to try each one and see who you make the most money with at the end of the week. Sometimes it will be us, Sometimes it will be them. Trying both just improves your chances of making money. If you find one sponsor is doing much better than the other then you know who suits your traffic better. Hopefully it is us

I manage the 4Free sites at 4Freebucks.com and am responsible for all the consoles, front ends, and members areas. I know what makes money with 4Free and what does not. 4Free sites are an awesome money-making tool and when used right can make you lots of money. If you have a question about 4Free sites feel free to contact me.
zebra AT insiteadult.com

Joe Blow · 03-16-2002, 09:25 PM

If you had one or two consoles fair enough but I'd say its closer to ten although I haven't done an exact count. Overkill wouldn't you say?

Zebra · 03-16-2002, 09:28 PM

8 Consoles. More than some but less than many others.

Joe Blow · 03-16-2002, 09:34 PM

8 consoles and over 100 links for the surfer to click on. Stacked just a little in your favour wouldn't you say???

Zebra · 03-16-2002, 09:52 PM

Seeing as how they dont see the consoles till after they close out the site I don't see how there is a difference between 20 links or 100 links. If they get to the site and are not interested then we try to sell them something else. The money we make from the exit consoles is what allows us to not take out deductions. We could cut back on the exit consoles and start taking deductions, but that would make us Join4Free.
We DO try to sell them on the site. Judging from the ratios people have with us we must be doing something right.

one question for ya..have you tried our 4Free sites?

Satan · 03-16-2002, 10:25 PM

Zebra: you have mail from me too, regarding payments.

User: sb2000

Joe Blow · 03-16-2002, 10:26 PM

OK, I've put a couple of links up and I'll let you know how I go. I've taken down my Join4Free links and I'll give yours a run and see how they go... for a week or two at least.

Zebra · 03-16-2002, 10:40 PM

Satan - got your mail..will check into it Monday morning. (why does that line not seem out of place in this biz?

)
Joe Blow - Welcome aboard. Hopefully you do well with us. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with. We aren't against you. If we piss off all the webmasters then who is going to send us traffic?

Zebra · 03-20-2002, 11:05 AM

Planet Bob - I did a careful review of your account and found some very interesting things.
First - Your accounts were not suspended for having more than one account.
Second - You WERE suspended for converting well..TOO well.
You had 264 signups in Jan/Feb and a whopping 2 hits. Pretty nice trick. Also, about 75% of your signups were from .dk addresses and many of the I.P.'s were very similar.

If you have a REALLY good explanation (which I can't think of a single possible one that would explain what I see in our stats) then send it to me and I will listen. zebra AT insiteadult.com

If you cheated..well..you can guess when you will be getting your check

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Satan - You have mail.

BTW- If anyone is not trying 4FreeVideo you are missing out. Conversions for it are better than any 4Free site I have ever seen.

Planet Bob · 03-20-2002, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zebra
Planet Bob - I did a careful review of your account and found some very interesting things.
First - Your accounts were not suspended for having more than one account.
Second - You WERE suspended for converting well..TOO well.
You had 264 signups in Jan/Feb and a whopping 2 hits. Pretty nice trick. Also, about 75% of your signups were from .dk addresses and many of the I.P.'s were very similar.

If you have a REALLY good explanation (which I can't think of a single possible one that would explain what I see in our stats) then send it to me and I will listen. zebra AT insiteadult.com

If you cheated..well..you can guess when you will be getting your check

I will not lower myself to your level.... you got mail.

/PB

03-13-2002, 07:44 AM	#6
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	4pics - I know you have a brain. This IS the first post. When someone replies to an announcement that does not make it a 2nd spam...doh! ldinternet - drop me a line and I will be glad to talk to you about any problems you may be having with us. We send out thousands of checks every period and sometimes we do make mistakes. I see that you are overseas and that only increases the chances of a gremlin being involved. Not to make excuses, but our offices are located in Northern New Jersey and all mail we send goes thru the Patterson Mail Center. If you remember right after Sept.11 Patterson is where the letters with Anthrax went thru and once they figured that out the mail going thru there basically stopped and was held for a very long time. That played havok with our check sending for several months and has only seemed to return to somewhat normal in the past couple months...again, not making excuses, just saying that this could have attributed to any problem you may have had and basically I just think it is pretty weird how the whole 9-11/terrorism thing affected even an adult company. Anything you have a problem with? Please drop me a line zebra AT insiteadult.com and I will try to help you out. BTW.. 4FreeVideo and 4FreeVoyeur are kicking ass right now and have quickly become our #1 converting sites. Take a look and you will see why __________________ Old School

03-13-2002, 08:13 AM	#7
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Okay, you've got mail. Last edited by ldinternet; 03-13-2002 at 08:20 AM..

03-13-2002, 08:24 AM	#8
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	ldinternet - mail received and I will have an answer for you in a bit.. Anyone else with any problems or questions regarding Insite Adult feel free to contact me. We are a very visible company and have been around since '96. We got to every major show and exhibit along with the other reputable sponsors. We don't hide and don't have any reason to.. __________________ Old School

03-13-2002, 09:31 AM	#9
Adult Movie Cash Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14	The link to your TOS don't work __________________ Adult Movie Cash -Make $15 on each signup recurring to all our moviesites

03-13-2002, 09:33 AM	#10
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Zebra what's your email? __________________ This Space for Rent

03-06-2002, 02:19 PM	#1
MagicksAntics Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Everywhere Posts: 455	4Free Voyeur and Video My spam doesn't get creative, so you will have to deal with the good old-fashioned kind Insite Adult is proud to announce two new highly-requested websites to it?s popular 4FreeBucks program: 4FreeVoyeur and 4FreeVideo! Only 4FreeBucks offers webmasters the Voyeur and Video niches in a 4Free model, which has conversions on average of 1:10-1:15 on exit, tgp, and other hard-to-convert traffic. In addition, Insite offers an entire selection of high-quality banners, half, and full page ads ready to promote these brand new sites. If you have voyeur or video traffic, these sites are the ones to promote! Also, we do special deals for large amounts of traffic, so send an email to [email protected] if you are interested and we?ll do some business! Thanks!

03-12-2002, 08:10 PM	#2
tempra Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 295	what do you think about them? will they pay? LOL

03-12-2002, 08:28 PM	#3
tempra Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 295	what do you think about them? will they pay? LOL

03-13-2002, 02:35 AM	#4
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	pretty sure this was already announced here. So this is a 2nd spam of this.

03-13-2002, 05:55 AM	#5
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Well, I have a recurring problem with my Insite Investment checks.

03-13-2002, 09:37 AM	#11
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	sounds like spam to me...,

03-13-2002, 09:42 AM	#12
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	railz - zebra AT insiteadult.com __________________ Old School

03-13-2002, 10:09 AM	#13
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	BTW - the link to the TOS on 4freebucks.com works now.. that is what happens when you try to put up a redesign while sick from food poisoning with a 104 degree fever.. thank god for steroids..kicked that shit right out of my system! __________________ Old School

03-13-2002, 10:45 AM	#14
Planet Bob Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 303	Be sure to have converting trafic before sending it to their 4free programs..... Story Time: I sign up to their 4free program and it converted fine (on my end) and then suddenly my account were suspened without any notic. I sent them 2 mails but with no response. A couple of weeks later I read a post about them and someone posted a ICQ.... i grabed it and contacted him (MagicX or something like that). He told me to mail samantha and so i did... tralalalala no response... I contacted MagicX again but he sayd he couldn't do anything. Then more weeks passed and I suddenly recieved a "Hallo-how-are-you-mail" from them. I responded and explained my story. The person responded (woohoo!) and told me that I had 2 accounts which isn't allowed..... darn my bad. But since both accounts were suspeded I asked this person to unlock one but nothing happend... then later I mailed him/her again still no response..... EOF I did have 2 account yes but why could't they simply unlock one of them? Oh well I guess my trafic wasn't converting....sigh. Rgs PB

03-13-2002, 11:19 AM	#15
MagicksAntics Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Everywhere Posts: 455	Planet Bob, It will be easier to address this issue if you give me your account name...I do not recall speaking with anyone named "Planet Bob" over ICQ. I will be happy to address this issue with you, however, I cannot unless I know exactly who you are. Additionally...I am not a "he".

03-13-2002, 12:14 PM	#16
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Planet Bob - Let me assure you that if you had an account suspended it was NOT for having poorly performing traffic..if sponsors suspended accounts with poor signup ratios they would be shooting themselves in the head. Sponsors LOVE people who send poorly converting traffic to a per-signup program because that is traffic they can turn around and resell or reuse. While we would love to have everyone convert poorly and keep sending us traffic (we would be getting something for nearly nothing, ya see?) we would not keep many affiliates because they would not be making any money! We work with our affiliates to get them the conversions that they need to see to keep them happy and keep sending us traffic. They get good conversions and make good money and they are happy and keep sending to us which keeps us happy. We have many happy webmasters who get GREAT conversions and make lots of money and are VERY happy..which makes us VERY happy __________________ Old School

03-13-2002, 05:20 PM	#17
railz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,531	Zebra - you have mail. __________________ This Space for Rent

03-14-2002, 01:21 AM	#18
Planet Bob Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 303	@ Magic: ups.... sorry : @ Zebra: i'll shoot you a mail when I get home - l8r. Rgs PB

03-16-2002, 05:02 PM	#20
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	[QUOTE]Originally posted by MagicksAntics [B]My spam doesn't get creative, so you will have to deal with the good old-fashioned kind Insite Adult is proud to announce two new highly-requested websites to it?s popular 4FreeBucks program: 4FreeVoyeur and 4FreeVideo! MagicksAntics I was going to send your program some traffic until I saw all those exit consoles (and there were SHITLOADS) that pop up when the surfer leaves 4FreeVideo... none of which have my referrer link ANYWHERE ON THEM! Show us webmasters a little more respect, ok __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

03-16-2002, 09:20 PM	#21
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Joe Blow - Give us some respect, eh? It is true that we do not give credit on our exit consoles, but it is also true that we do not deduct for cancelled signups and that we accept, count, and credit ALL traffic, including foreign traffic which makes up 40% of the traffic into our sites. Different sponsors do things different ways. No 4Free sponsor out there gives you credit for exit sales AND no deductions. Join4Free gives credit on exit consoles and takes deductions. We don't give credit on exit consoles but we let you keep all your signups, even if they cancel. We think things balance out. You have to try each one and see who you make the most money with at the end of the week. Sometimes it will be us, Sometimes it will be them. Trying both just improves your chances of making money. If you find one sponsor is doing much better than the other then you know who suits your traffic better. Hopefully it is us I manage the 4Free sites at 4Freebucks.com and am responsible for all the consoles, front ends, and members areas. I know what makes money with 4Free and what does not. 4Free sites are an awesome money-making tool and when used right can make you lots of money. If you have a question about 4Free sites feel free to contact me. zebra AT insiteadult.com __________________ Old School

03-16-2002, 09:25 PM	#22
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	If you had one or two consoles fair enough but I'd say its closer to ten although I haven't done an exact count. Overkill wouldn't you say? __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

03-16-2002, 09:28 PM	#23
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	8 Consoles. More than some but less than many others. __________________ Old School

03-16-2002, 09:34 PM	#24
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	8 consoles and over 100 links for the surfer to click on. Stacked just a little in your favour wouldn't you say??? __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

03-16-2002, 09:52 PM	#25
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Seeing as how they dont see the consoles till after they close out the site I don't see how there is a difference between 20 links or 100 links. If they get to the site and are not interested then we try to sell them something else. The money we make from the exit consoles is what allows us to not take out deductions. We could cut back on the exit consoles and start taking deductions, but that would make us Join4Free. We DO try to sell them on the site. Judging from the ratios people have with us we must be doing something right. one question for ya..have you tried our 4Free sites? __________________ Old School Last edited by Zebra; 03-16-2002 at 10:03 PM..

03-16-2002, 10:25 PM	#26
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	Zebra: you have mail from me too, regarding payments. User: sb2000 __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

03-16-2002, 10:26 PM	#27
Joe Blow Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: My house Posts: 276	OK, I've put a couple of links up and I'll let you know how I go. I've taken down my Join4Free links and I'll give yours a run and see how they go... for a week or two at least. __________________ Joe Blow Clickcash give you $50 just for signing up! Offer your surfers Pay-Per-View XXX Movies!

03-16-2002, 10:40 PM	#28
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Satan - got your mail..will check into it Monday morning. (why does that line not seem out of place in this biz? ) Joe Blow - Welcome aboard. Hopefully you do well with us. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with. We aren't against you. If we piss off all the webmasters then who is going to send us traffic? __________________ Old School

03-20-2002, 11:05 AM	#29
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Planet Bob - I did a careful review of your account and found some very interesting things. First - Your accounts were not suspended for having more than one account. Second - You WERE suspended for converting well..TOO well. You had 264 signups in Jan/Feb and a whopping 2 hits. Pretty nice trick. Also, about 75% of your signups were from .dk addresses and many of the I.P.'s were very similar. If you have a REALLY good explanation (which I can't think of a single possible one that would explain what I see in our stats) then send it to me and I will listen. zebra AT insiteadult.com If you cheated..well..you can guess when you will be getting your check ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Satan - You have mail. BTW- If anyone is not trying 4FreeVideo you are missing out. Conversions for it are better than any 4Free site I have ever seen. __________________ Old School