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Old 11-11-2005, 01:28 PM   #51
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:33 PM   #52
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:42 PM   #53
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Very interesting thread. But aren't there so many variables at play as to make each situation roughly unique?
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Old 11-11-2005, 01:45 PM   #54
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Very interesting thread. But aren't there so many variables at play as to make each situation roughly unique?
Yes that is correct.
Many variables matter.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:01 PM   #55
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Yes that is correct.
Many variables matter.

Jesus Christ, maybe you should have put some sort of legal waiver statement in your post.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:15 PM   #56
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did you not understand anything i said? of course anyone knows you can buy spots on all the tgps. but when people see the stats that come along with a gallery that they can make a similiar gallery for and promote the same sponsor, then thats competition you dont want.

if i have a gallery that i can double my $ on.... then i'm going to keep it to myself or other people will copy me.
I take your point but it is an indication that is all.
I`m stating the obvious here but you and I both know that listing a similar designed gallery using the same site / sponsor on the same TGP doesn`t mean anything in terms of whether it is going to work time and time again.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:13 PM   #57
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Not an exact scientific experiment but it should be interesting. Will you share which sites members from TheHung listings signed up for as well?
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:17 PM   #58
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Waiting to see you post some more sales, pornopat!

When I get lucky and get a gallery listed on hun (free) I sometimes make a nice profit.

Keep posting!
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:47 PM   #59
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:46 PM   #60
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:52 PM   #61
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the question about the hun converting, is not really about if you make a sale, its about does the amount of sales equal the bandwith used. You you make 10 sales, but have 98,000 hits to get those sales, those 10 sales will not pay the bandwith bill. But if your using free hosted galleries you dont care about the bandwith used.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:08 PM   #62
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Not an exact scientific experiment but it should be interesting. Will you share which sites members from TheHung listings signed up for as well?
Sure. All are all acces reality sofar.
That is the one that is listed on the hun today.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:09 PM   #63
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Waiting to see you post some more sales, pornopat!

When I get lucky and get a gallery listed on hun (free) I sometimes make a nice profit.

Keep posting!

At this moment:

4 sales, 14688 uniques, $120
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:10 PM   #64
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the question about the hun converting, is not really about if you make a sale, its about does the amount of sales equal the bandwith used. You you make 10 sales, but have 98,000 hits to get those sales, those 10 sales will not pay the bandwith bill. But if your using free hosted galleries you dont care about the bandwith used.
Im pretty sure they don't let you use FHG's ;)

I've had good results and bad results with hun listings... can go either way.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:32 PM   #66
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Interesting thread pornopat! Glad your enjoying Aruba!
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:37 PM   #67
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APC is an awesome sponsor...
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:41 PM   #69
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the question about the hun converting, is not really about if you make a sale, its about does the amount of sales equal the bandwith used. You you make 10 sales, but have 98,000 hits to get those sales, those 10 sales will not pay the bandwith bill. But if your using free hosted galleries you dont care about the bandwith used.
These spots are paid for though, so he needs to make at least $200 per listing just to break even. If you could time your spots to a sponsor $50 promotion or laptop giveaway it would be easier to profit.
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Can not wait to see how this works out.

With my last free listing on the hun. I think I got a total of 4 sales.
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you pay for the spot and pay for the bandwith, 200$ would not let you break even for both.

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These spots are paid for though, so he needs to make at least $200 per listing just to break even. If you could time your spots to a sponsor $50 promotion or laptop giveaway it would be easier to profit.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:47 PM   #72
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I just burn my money.

No, just fuckin' around... it'll be an interesting read, but as already stated there are so many damn variables as to whether a Hun listing converts.

For example, the first single-girl site I created got a free Hun listing... but the girl wasn't that uber-hot and thus did not convert well in the Hun traffic with all the competition there. Still got 4 sales from it the first 2 days, though.
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:25 PM   #73
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:32 PM   #74
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Old 11-11-2005, 10:43 PM   #75
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OK, from my old experience usually clicks to sponsors are about 10% .. so if conversion is 1:9800 that means their were at lest 98000 users viewing that gallery per sale.

at 770k per user (based on 4 fully loaded pictures average, and average thumbnails size)
that's approx 75gig *Cheap hosting $1/gig =$75

since a sell is at most $50, how is this affordable?

and even if its hosted galleries by the sponsor.. how is this affordable for the sponsors?

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did you not understand anything i said? of course anyone knows you can buy spots on all the tgps. but when people see the stats that come along with a gallery that they can make a similiar gallery for and promote the same sponsor, then thats competition you dont want.

if i have a gallery that i can double my $ on.... then i'm going to keep it to myself or other people will copy me.
If only it was as easy as that.

What about picking the content that goes into the gallery, or is that just a minor point.

I'll be watching this thread closely.
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:12 AM   #78
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6 sales : 19536 uniques : 180$

I need some more sales to cover the spot, hosting and labor. It will remain on the first page for two more days though and then go to the archives and the searchengines.

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OK, from my old experience usually clicks to sponsors are about 10% .. so if conversion is 1:9800 that means their were at lest 98000 users viewing that gallery per sale.

at 770k per user (based on 4 fully loaded pictures average, and average thumbnails size)
that's approx 75gig *Cheap hosting $1/gig =$75

since a sell is at most $50, how is this affordable?

and even if its hosted galleries by the sponsor.. how is this affordable for the sponsors?

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10% ctr? doubtful it'd be that high

770k per user based on FOUR pictures? learn to optimise.

$1 a gig? Find a new host.
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You may want to change those console links on your tour, they disable the back button when trying to return to the gallery from the paysite tour which will get you in some trouble if any surfers complain.
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Great thread, the results are and will be very interresting. APC is a great program, and Hun traffic is usually decent, so hopefully the results prove both to be right.
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You may want to change those console links on your tour, they disable the back button when trying to return to the gallery from the paysite tour which will get you in some trouble if any surfers complain.
yeah the hun don't like that
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You may want to change those console links on your tour, they disable the back button when trying to return to the gallery from the paysite tour which will get you in some trouble if any surfers complain.
Hmmm looks like I used the wrong linkingcode. I will tell cybercat and they will consult with the hun what to do. Changing a link without consulting might also get me into trouble. Thanks for the info.
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Hmmm looks like I used the wrong linkingcode. I will tell cybercat and they will consult with the hun what to do. Changing a link without consulting might also get me into trouble. Thanks for the info.
When you pay for a listing The Hun lets you bend the rules a bit. You can post in their forum BTW. Michel (Review) usually responds rather fast.

On a separate note, I just got a surprise $60 dollar check (for three sales) in the mail last week from Platinum Bucks. And I haven't pushed them since June. It was from a Hun listing back in May. lol. I think I originally made about 8 sales with that Hun listing. So even months later you still make sales with them. Amazing.

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OK, from my old experience usually clicks to sponsors are about 10% .. so if conversion is 1:9800 that means their were at lest 98000 users viewing that gallery per sale.

at 770k per user (based on 4 fully loaded pictures average, and average thumbnails size)
that's approx 75gig *Cheap hosting $1/gig =$75

since a sell is at most $50, how is this affordable?

and even if its hosted galleries by the sponsor.. how is this affordable for the sponsors?

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LOL man, cheap hosting at $1 per gig make that $0,10 per gig. and also who converts 1:9800 ??
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the only stats that would interest me is traffic received per spot before hitting the archive. Sales and clicks to sponsor are variables and have little to no value.
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lol, i guess i am still in the old days

well it used to be $8 a gig back in the day .. then it went down to $4/gig .. and i assumed the cheap price now is $1/gig but conversion was 1:248 and click thoughts were 10% . . that's based on AVS traffic.

so if you people don't mind .. what is the gallery views to sponsor click ratio today on TGP traffic .

the conversion ratio I can learn from this Thread. ( right now 1:3256)


man I wasn't around for to long
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I have had lots of free Hun listings back in the days when we used to blitz it with Terra and Starmedia hosted galleries. When this was banned I continued with hosts like Smutserver and Kinghost for quite some time.

Thinking back, results were never consistent. One day a listing of similar galleries would bring 10 sign ups and the next only 2.
If listing and bandwidth costs were included back then, I would have needed to calculate the revshare returns over quite a long period to be sure my investment would return profit at some point.
There are many long term spin offs from a Hun listing, something that should be taken into consideration when working out the cost and strategy.

Long gone are the days where you could use all your dropped out listings to feed a CJ network
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ok, one bump for great thread...any update Pornopat ?
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Yep.

7 sales so far. 210$ 22289 uniques
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well if you make any money, you're setting youself up for some unwanted competition. this is the kind of info thats best kept to yourself.
He should be shot for starting this thread, setting up unnecessary competition for guys like me, what an idiot.

but then again this threads real purpose is to tell APC not to shave him in case they do.
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