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|  11-10-2005, 02:56 AM | #1 | 
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				LASIK... who's done it? Going under the laser on Friday!
			 I'm pretty excited... I don't really have bad vision but I have slight astigmatism and its VERY annoying because everything about 7ft away from me is blurry.  Getting the new CustomVue lasik... anyone here done this and have regrets? I've heard about night vision issues (glare/halos) but thats typically in people with larger pupils. 
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|  11-10-2005, 03:03 AM | #2 | |
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 Let us know how it goes  
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|  11-10-2005, 03:42 AM | #3 | 
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				 | I did it about 5.5 years ago, best thing I've ever spent $3500 on. And I'm sure they've gotten even better doing it now then before, so I'm sure you won't have any problems. | 
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|  11-10-2005, 03:47 AM | #4 | 
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				 | Its cheaper now and alot faster the only problem is it compares to being at the dentist with NO paid medicine. Dude good luck but I would not go through that pain for that money.   
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|  11-10-2005, 03:49 AM | #5 | 
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				 | Dude dont spend the money come over to my house, we can do it here | 
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|  11-10-2005, 04:08 AM | #6 | 
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				 | Goodluck dude. A friend of mine just had the same operation two months ago and she's doing great now. 
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|  11-10-2005, 04:12 AM | #7 | |
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|  11-10-2005, 04:35 AM | #8 | |
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 maybe a little afterward, but its more like irritation from what i've been told and i'll keep the thread updated  
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|  11-10-2005, 04:45 AM | #9 | 
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				 | dont do it.. you'll go blind. | 
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|  11-10-2005, 05:44 AM | #10 | 
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				 | IMO the risk if really screwing up my sight just isn't worth it. I have been a four-eyes since a kid. I can deal with it.  I do know many people who had successful (and no failed) LASIKS, so you will be fine. Good Luck. | 
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|  11-10-2005, 05:58 AM | #11 | 
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				 | I did it, and it was the best thing I ever did.  It was also the most horrifying 5 minutes of my life, but I'd do it again in a second!  They hold your eye lids back like in clockwork orange, and then when they peel your cornia back you actually go blind for about 20 seconds.  But again, best thing I ever did.  Haven't needed glasses or contacts since. 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:04 AM | #12 | 
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				 | I had PRK done in 98 and it was such a simple procedure.  I also got the eye drops, but they also gave me some valium.  I was relaxed anyway, but even more so after the valium.  After 7 years, the only thing I might need is night driving glasses.  Things are just a tad fuzzy, but other than that - no contacts or glasses since! Good luck! | 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:08 AM | #13 | 
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				 | Thaty's the very next thing i'm gone do after the dentist. Money is very hard to pile when building an internet empire. atlest 10 members of my family have done it, only 1 need to go for a second visit, she is schedule next week. I realy need to make it done with -7.5 and -5.75 and astigmatism. 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:09 AM | #14 | 
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				 | I know a couple that have had it done.  Improved their vision back to normal.   The process is pretty much perfected now unless you get a doctor who hasn't done many procedures before or has shoddy equipment. 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:12 AM | #15 | 
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				 | I'm still kinda weary of doing this, I'm not convinced it's 100% safe. 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:32 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Let us know how it goes...I've been wanting to do it, but I'm a bit freaked out when it comes to my peepers!    | 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:33 AM | #17 | 
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				 | goodluck with it   I will prolly end getting it done in the future | 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:36 AM | #18 | 
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				 | i did it 5 years ago and my vision feels like it gets better every day.  the first week or two after is a little scary, but it passes.  i saw spots for a few weeks after the surgery, but its normal.  plus if you've got a good doc, they will give you a bunch of vicodin after the surgery and you wont feel a thing for a few days after.  my vision is so sharp i can read above 20-20.  my vision is 20-15 now. | 
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|  11-10-2005, 08:54 AM | #19 | |
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|  11-10-2005, 08:55 AM | #20 | 
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				 | had mine done this past year, had bad astigmatism i would describe the procedure as 'uncomfortable' but not 'painful' (not even slightly painful) i do have some halo's at night which i was prepared for, its minor. biggest complaint is dry eyes, but id rather put drops in a few times a day than wear glasses or contacts 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:09 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Did custom wavefront Lasik two weeks ago today. My vision is now perfect, albeit still dry  eyed (normal for the first few weeks I am told). Operation was definately not comfortable (in my mind pretty freaky) and it did hurt AFTER the operation for a few hours (but thanks to good old Xanax I kept my cool) - I would do it again in a heartbeat to get the result I now have. You will love it. 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:09 AM | #22 | 
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				 | Ok... I had it done a few months ago... I am wearing glasses right now. I had it done by a top doc in the field. However, even if you are an ideal candidate things can go a bit south. I need to go back in to correct the over correction in my left eye. I was pretty much aware that it would be the case. However I do have halos and so forth. This is why I wear glasses to drive at night and for the computer.My right eye had a clear lense( 20/25) and my left is the one that is going to be corrected. It takes time to heal depending on your body. I URGE YOU TO: Check with your doctor to make sure the device can get into your eye, I had major problems where they had to cut slits in the eyes to do the procedure. If you have any questions hit me up... -=Chipmunk=- 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:11 AM | #23 | 
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				 | How much does it cost now? i remember last year was around 1500$ Canadian Dollar. 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:11 AM | #24 | 
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				 | Fuckin best thing I ever did. No problems at all and I went from 20:400 to 20:20!!! Just make sure you go to a quality doctor and not one of those cheap assembly line centers. 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:31 AM | #25 | 
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				 | Simply amazing. I see better than 20/20 now. Walked out of the operation seeing better. Minimal discomfort and quick healing. Miraculous if you ask me. 
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|  11-10-2005, 09:45 AM | #26 | 
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				 | I did it last year and i can tell you that you won?t feel a thing. Like everyone else said, it is a bit annoying because of the dry eye feeling. Still to this day, my left eye gets fuzzy and very dry but hey a few drops and all is fixed.  Driving at night was a challenge because of the glair but it is very similar to when you have glasses on. For me the feeling of waking up in the morning and being able to see is just priceless. The best is swimming or going to the gym without worrying about sliding glasses or losing a lens at sea. Good luck and it is well worth it. 
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|  11-10-2005, 01:32 PM | #27 | |
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 1 more day... woowoo 
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|  11-10-2005, 01:38 PM | #28 | 
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				 | I dont know anything about this, but i heard something about only being able to get this done once??? Sounds like b.s? Should someone wait till a certain age to get it done? I will probably need it one day. | 
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|  11-10-2005, 01:41 PM | #29 | |
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 they say you should to be at least 21-23 and have a steady prescription for about a year 
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|  11-10-2005, 01:50 PM | #30 | 
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				 | I have friends who have done it and they say it's not bad at all.   Just get ready for a shocker, a lot of the girls you thought were good looking in the clubs will be totally ugly. haha jk Errol | 
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|  11-10-2005, 02:02 PM | #31 | 
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				 | i have thought about it many times but always chicken out.  I read one bad story once in TIME and the person described it as seeing through crinkled plastic wrap and could not be fixed.  Though everyone I know who did it loves it.  Maybe oneday... | 
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|  11-11-2005, 12:22 AM | #32 | |
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 getting a lil nervous now 
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|  11-11-2005, 05:19 AM | #33 | 
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				 | nice reviews. I have been considering it myself but there is no rush for it at the momment | 
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|  11-11-2005, 06:39 AM | #34 | 
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				 | atom from PCBBS just did it last week... go ask him. He seems happy. | 
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|  11-11-2005, 06:47 AM | #35 | 
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				 | i'm -2.50 and -2.75 I wear my contacts for over a month at a time. Never had any problems I'll wait till they perfect eye ball replacment | 
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|  11-11-2005, 06:57 AM | #36 | 
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				 | I am actually getting it on Sunday.  I am a bit nervous but everone I have talked to who got it were saying that it was amazing.  Let me know how yours goes and I will do the same.  Good Luck  | 
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|  11-11-2005, 07:41 AM | #37 | 
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				 | Damn, i'm jaleous. 
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|  11-11-2005, 08:49 AM | #38 | 
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				 | I want to have it done. Just havent had the time. | 
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|  11-11-2005, 08:53 AM | #39 | 
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				 | I've only heard great results. I'm sure you'll have no problems. 
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|  11-11-2005, 08:58 AM | #40 | 
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				 | i've done it like 3 years ago.. Still have 20/15 vision   | 
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|  11-11-2005, 09:36 AM | #41 | 
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				 | I'd like the end result but I'm still too freaked about them slicing into my eye, and wondering "what if" something goes wrong. I currently wear glasses, I'm now considering those 30 day disposable contacts.  | 
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|  11-11-2005, 09:40 AM | #42 | 
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				 | I'm waiting a couple years to do it. Problem is, lots of people vision isn't stable when they do it, and 2 years later, they are back to the same point ... | 
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|  11-17-2005, 11:48 PM | #43 | 
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				 | okay all done, had the surgery today the actual surgery took like 5 minutes for both eyes total, didn't really hurt at all... my vision is still a little blurry right now, it should improve in the next 3-5 days. here is the process i went through (on surgery day) for those that wanted to know 1. get to doctor, run second round of tests 2. go to operating area, get .5mg xanax, blood pressure & heart rate monitored 3. eyelids swabbed with some iodine type stuff, forgot the name of it 4. taken over to another room outside of the surgical area called me over to surgery 5. sat down in chair, they line you up with the laser device then move it away (below happened for each eye) 6. doc comes in, tapes top eyelid open, sticks speculum in eye to hold it open 7. numbing drops inserted, they make you stare at a green light.. then they put this small vacuum type device on your eye to hold it in place... when it turns on everything sort of goes grey and you cant see anything... then he sticks some circular thing in there that i think he twisted... this is what cut the flap in my cornea (yes, i did feel the cut but it wasn't that bad, just strange) 8. then he puts some other drops in there, uses a cotton swab to dry up the excess 9. moves laser device over eye, tells you to stare at a red light... then he uses some tweezers to lift the cornea flap up (this was weird because after he did this everything went very blurry... the little red light i saw clearly became a huge blob) 10. laser lines you up, and turns on (it makes a clicking noise real fast)... lasts about 3-5 seconds (yes, i smelled a little bit of it) 11. flap is closed, more drops applied and thats it 20/15 now  
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|  11-18-2005, 12:54 AM | #44 | 
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				 | Ok... I'm going to jump in here and enter my $0.02... First of all, being one-eyed and having worn glasses since I was 2 years old I can tell you 1 thing... do your research, do your research, do your research... on the doctor, the machinery he's going to use (when was it calibrated last, how many hours experience does he have using it, etc..) ask for patient referrals to talk with (be wary if they only give you 'successes' to talk with, ask for patient referrals who haven't had such good experiences as well to find out how the doctor dealt with the issues)... Personally, I would LOVE To have this done but every doctor I've contacted says "No Fucking Way!"... No matter how much confidence they have in their own abilities they simply will not take the risk on screwing up my one 'not so good' eye. Right now with glasses I see at about 20:40... without glasses I'm totally fucked and can't see more than 2 inches from the front of my nose. The most important issue for many people is the 'halos' at night. There is a very simple way to avoid this problem... Make sure the doctor measures your pupils dialated in as dark a room as is possible. That way, they can get the diameter of the cornea correct and eliminate the halos before they start. Do your homework and you should be ok... You lucky bastard... I envy you. 
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|  11-18-2005, 01:07 AM | #45 | |
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 if you're interested the doctor i went to is kurt buzard at the buzard institute in vegas... www.buzard.com also check out http://www.allaboutvision.com/customvue/ for info on the custom vue wavefront lasik people come in from all over the place to work with him... they can even do next day lasik if you're visiting from out of town (bunch of tests 1 day then surgery the next) worth a shot if you really wanna give it a go 
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|  11-18-2005, 12:06 PM | #46 | 
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				 | had my followup checkup today, everything is great no issues whatsoever... anyone thinking about doing this should do it. its fucking awesome 
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|  11-18-2005, 12:12 PM | #47 | 
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				 | I'm really glad you had such great results... how old are you and what did the doc say about long term... ??? 
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|  11-18-2005, 12:37 PM | #49 | |
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 stable vision for over a year now in the future as i get older my close up vision may degrade just because of aging since the eyes cant focus as good as they can when you're young (which is why some people that have lasik still need reading glasses). I asked about my vision changing because i work in front of a computer all day and they said there should be nothing to worry about at my age.. late 30s early 40s is when these probs start as far as the procedure that was done, that wont change... ur eye is permanently excised by the laser your prescription could change if you do things that would effect it like taking prescription drugs that may have an effect on vision like accutane for instance... overall everything should remain the same... if i had to do the procedure again i would, its not bad at all 
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