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Old 11-10-2005, 01:29 AM   #1
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Win a cruise for four worth over $10k

Hi all,

after months and months of developing the idea and weeks of working on the website, it's finally up and running. Check it out at

www.tariona.com

Here's your chance to do some good to the world, help us build up the most beautiful meditation garden in the world by purchasing part of the landplot where it's going to be built!

Land covers over 22,000 sq feet and is divided into 34,800 areas - each one costs just $25.00 USD and that gives you:

- exclusive property area at one of the most wanted coasts in the world;
- limited edition t-shirt (not available through regular sales channels);
- signed and authorized patron certificate (with details on your area, etc);
- online promo display - a link in the patrons list shown on each webpage of our project, that'll be seen by hundreds of thousands of visitors a day (soon ) and a big info display once user hovers your link - there you can display your logo, message, anything you wish.
- once the park is built, your ad/message will be memorized and displayed within park boundaries for good - as long as the world lasts;

and last, but not least:

- your own cruise ticket! with each area purchase you are entered in our competition where one of the patrons will win all-inclusive dream vacation: we'll fly you (and three other persons you want to take with you) over to croatia, take you to 7 days incredible cruise with luxury yacht around thousands of adriatic islands, with a chance to visit most virgin and hidden beaches (that are visited every year by people like paul allen, roman abramovich, tom cruise, jordanian king, etc) - and as a special, you will be taken to visit the park we've built together, aswell!

other prizes will include special edition PSPs, iPods and other gadgets we all like.

now, isn't it time to go to www.tariona.com and buy some land while promoting yourself?

remember, the more areas you buy, the stronger your message is!

www.tariona.com
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:32 AM   #2
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For some reason...this just doesn't smell right....
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:36 AM   #3
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:41 AM   #4
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yeah, this doesn't smell right, but those millionwhateverwebpages.com do smell?

you're entitled to your opinion, but if anyone requires a screenshot of certificates showing that i actually own the land where park will be or whatever, just contact me via e-mail on www.tariona.com

this site is genuine, it's no scam, it's no instant moneymaker... i just want to pay off to the island where i've spent most of my beautiful childhood summers... i inherited the land from my grand-grandfather and i decided i'm not the one who's going to build up some ugly apartment building there and ruin the intact landscape and that pittoresque small village, but rather do something that will be a heritage for everyone, open for visits..

i am not selling you pixels, i'm not granting you thousands of clicks or tons of traffic to your website (even though that's likely to happen if you have link on this site), all i can give you is that piece of land, certificate and t-shirt and a chance to win that cruise (i'll be your host, myself). that's all i can offer. and all that for just $25.

i don't think you can do good (at least to mother nature), have fun, promote yourself and get exclusive, esteem-builder t-shirt for that kind of money anywhere else, can you?

cheers.
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when the fuck am i gonna get back my 700 bucks for that logo you never did?
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:46 AM   #6
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fix your links
yeah, for some reason links are not working.. but how can i edit my previous post in this gfy, i remember there was edit option before, but now, i'm either sleepy or too stupid to find it?

anyway, correct link is

www.tariona.com



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Old 11-10-2005, 01:50 AM   #7
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when the fuck am i gonna get back my 700 bucks for that logo you never did?
if i knew who the f*ck are you (i behive nicely, not as some others), or if you contacted me in private if you have any unsettled things, contact me.

it's like i say "when the fuck are you going to give me back $50k i loaned you to start up your lousy business!?"

thanks.
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if i knew who the f*ck are you (i behive nicely, not as some others), or if you contacted me in private if you have any unsettled things, contact me.

it's like i say "when the fuck are you going to give me back $50k i loaned you to start up your lousy business!?"

thanks.
You know who i am.
it was for excess publications. I quit chasing you 6 months ago for the money after you repeatedly blew me off
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:13 AM   #9
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You know who i am.
it was for excess publications. I quit chasing you 6 months ago for the money after you repeatedly blew me off
now i know when you remind me who you are. i remember the project you're talking about, back in january 2005, when i had serious family issues that took me away from the business for 6 months, sorry. i sincerely felt bad for all the projects that i've failed or could not take on in that period, but as said - worst period of my life. no wonder i have to use valiums everyday and get 1-2 panic attacks a day. great life, huh? but, healing slowly.

if you wish to get a refund or try to work on some other project, get in touch with me in private to luka [at] misipile [dot] com

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:17 AM   #10
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no wonder i have to use valiums everyday and get 1-2 panic attacks a day. great life, huh? but, healing slowly.
Gee, that's a great endorsement for people to go into busines with you...

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:39 AM   #11
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Gee, that's a great endorsement for people to go into busines with you...

learn to write business first. at least i am honest, i don't hide the fact that some problems left some scares on my nerves, but at least i am getting better, while some just try to fu#k others up, i don't care about them.

no need to talk about it anymore, hope you have healthy life and you never experience the problems i had begining 2005 (not with myself, but with closest family member).

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Old 11-10-2005, 04:26 AM   #12
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learn to write business first. at least i am honest, i don't hide the fact that some problems left some scares on my nerves, but at least i am getting better, while some just try to fu#k others up, i don't care about them.

no need to talk about it anymore, hope you have healthy life and you never experience the problems i had begining 2005 (not with myself, but with closest family member).

cheers
Sorry if my sarcasm wasn't clear, I can be like that very late at night (or very early morning...) I have no idea what you went through but I had a rough period that I wouldn't wish upon anyone. It was as f**ked as it gets but I too managed to get past it.

Anyway, sounds like your intentions are good for this project.
Hope it does well.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:30 AM   #13
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Sorry if my sarcasm wasn't clear, I can be like that very late at night (or very early morning...) I have no idea what you went through but I had a rough period that I wouldn't wish upon anyone. It was as f**ked as it gets but I too managed to get past it.

Anyway, sounds like your intentions are good for this project.
Hope it does well.
well, late night or early morning - what are you doing up? get some sleep now, now it's time for us, europeans, to take over gfy

it seems we've all been through a rough period in life, as that's life, ain't it? just, some of us try to hide it for good, but i suggest crying it out and getting over it. just like relationships

thanks for good wishes, i hope it does well, aswell. feel free to buy one area at www.tariona.com/buy to fix the damage done and get yourself limited edition esteem-builder t-shirt delivered right to your door.

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Old 11-10-2005, 05:12 AM   #14
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LOL, has anyone read the terms? Incredible!
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LOL, has anyone read the terms? Incredible!
what's so incredible about them?
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this is not a scam... (i hope so!)

i actually visited this island and Veli Porat when i was very young, more than 10 years ago. all i can remember is an awesome landscape and bubbly sea water!

lukapensa, can you please contact me on icq to disccuss about my new visit to this island?

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this is not a scam... (i hope so!)

i actually visited this island and Veli Porat when i was very young, more than 10 years ago. all i can remember is an awesome landscape and bubbly sea water!

lukapensa, can you please contact me on icq to disccuss about my new visit to this island?

icq#: 53667259
hey, finally someone that knows the real beauties of that island. of course it's not a scam, and it's nice talking to you on ICQ just as i'm writing this
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BUYER BEWARE.

I don't EVER air out my dirty laundry on boards, but your SCAMS must come to an end Luka...and I see you're up to more scams.

In all the years i've been in this business, i have only ran into ONE problem...you. Lets see if we can total up your "life problems" cause i'm having a real hard time keeping track of them.

My story is simple. Like everyone else, I've been taken in with your logo design work. The first project wasn't anything to serious which is why i never made a big deal about you stealing my money (the first logo that never got completed). I gave up trying to contact you as you seemed to disappear and i simply wrote it off as a loss. Also, this was BEFORE your Jan 2005 problems so there's no excuse for this. Still, i wrote it off and moved on.

Then you posted this huge thread here on GFY about how you had problems but now you are back to doing business.
Thread is here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=490327
(This thread was in July 2005 when everything in Luka's life was "all better")

AGAINST my better judgement, i said to myself, what the hell...maybe it was just a bad time back then and i should give it another try. We all fall onto bad times and I really wanted to believe that this time would be different and in the process, help the guy out.

So I got into contact with you and we did the logo. Now, this time you did the logo and completed it...BUT, for some unknown fucking reason, you refused to send me the final file (psds,etc)....something that would have taken you 3 SECONDS to email over....ie; select logo, attach logo to email, send email...that's ALL YOU HAD TO DO. I emailed you over and over..no reply. All over a simple attachment that i was trying to get from you. And yes, i was paid in full.

But here's the funny part. BEFORE that happened, I sent MORE money to do a complete site. I wanted a whole site to go with the new logo. And what happens next? Yep! You guessed it...you dropped off the fucking face of the earth (yet again). How fortunate for you.

....and dropped off the face of the earth right after this "i'm back" thread. Weird, isn't it?

So tell me Luka. What new life altering experience happened this time between July 2005 and now??? You write up this nice "i'm back in business" thread and then something so devastating happens (again), that you HAVE to disappear and can't even simply send one fucking email with the attachment over???? Please man......

Oh, this gets better!

So what happens next? Two months or so later, i wake up to a "poor Luka" email explaining on why he disappeared..sound familiar?

What is it they say? Oh yes...history DOES in fact repeat itself.

So lets recap.

You steal peoples money. Then you post a "i'm back and sorry" thread. Then you steal more money from people trying to give you business and help out. Then you email an "i'm back and sorry" email....(probably trying to get more money from suckers like me)

BUT NOT ONCE in that email did you ever offer to refund my money.

I will admit this. I take full responsibility for all this.
I don't blame you Luka for being a total scammer. I blame myself for trusting so easily again. I knew everything ahead of time and i only blame myself for being a total idiot.
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Old 11-11-2005, 03:57 PM   #21
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hi michael.

nice to see you around... i don't want to quarrel over a forum, especially not over one like gfy is. yes, i could now start talking about the reel profits (that first logo) and like 50 concepts/updates you wanted me to do and always saying "perfect", but in few second "hey, but how about adding a bit of gloss", "perfect", "no, let's change color scheme slightly", "perfect", "no, no, change this"... and change that.. that's why i gave up on that first project with you, nothing personal.

i was amazed when you got back to me with signature locations and younity projects... and i loved the logo we did for signature, aswell as the site's general layout, remember it? i needed some materials, then i got ill and then communication died... i sent you last e-mail to your only e-mail i had (mych [at] earthlink [dot] net) and through which you always replied... it was 4th october and that mail ended with (quoted):

"Please, contact me back just to confirm you received this e-mail and
feel free to be sincere and share all your thoughts with me.

Thank you in advance for everything.

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i never got any contact nor anything else from you afterwards. if you wish, get in touch, you'll get a refund or whatever (some logo or something if you wish), i am neither angry nor disappointed in your comments about me - you've got rights to have own opinion on anything.

and, no, this time it wasn't anything new, it was just a consequence of what happened to me during worst 5-6 months of my life, begining this year. i wish you won't get in that kind of situation in your life, ever. i had to quit everything and get myself slowly back on the feet with unselfish support of my wife and some other people i've worked/am working with (thanks!). they have complete understanding as they know all the details and they've seen similar situations, so they know how to help. thanks vahe and company ;)

now, it's up to you. if you wish to contact me, you know how to do it. i will not write a one bad word about you, i take the blame, its my fault, but i did try to contact you, maybe i should've tried more?

consider me a scammer, consider me whatever you wish -- nobody likes bush, either, but you all (or at least majority) voted for him again. how can someone be such pharisee (no offense to jews)?

trust me or not, i simply don't care. i don't think i'll be visiting this board much often, it helped me out to define myself as a brand designer back in summer 2003 when nathan (from nats) introduced me here.. and i liked it.. but then, some dirty games kicked in, and i must say - there are definitely some designers that will sell their soul for money, but i'm not that kind. designers should live in their designed freedom - if you pay me $300 that doesn't mean you own me (not talking directly to you michael, but generally speaking). i am not for sale and definitely not someone's slave (you know who you are).

someone said, everything can be purchased... well, trust me, it's not true. i've witnessed that myself, and my views and opinions changed a lot this year, especially in last 3 months - 180 degrees spin.

it's not all about cash, chicks and getting laid. there is life beyond that. call me crazy, do whatever you wish, but i hope to hear you via mail, michael.

over and out. possibly for good.
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p.s. forgot to mention, you US guys take xanax, valium and shit just for fun.. we europeans take it only when situation gets to the worst point possible. and, believe me or not, i've got plans (and already starting to realize them) just to do good -- the ultimate goal is not to become filthy rich (as, unfortunately, 99% of population desires), but the goal is to do what you like, enjoy God-given freedom and help others as much as you can.

don't be surprised if you see iconfish as an open-source project in the near future. chain is as strong it's weakest link, no matter how huge it is.. so is the system this world is chained down with - fight it.
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my 3 minutes edit time passed -- there's word missing in my last post... chain is as strong AS it's weakest link... LOL
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smells like fish in here
of course it smells like fish, as i mentioned some in my post just above yours
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Man I can not wait to jump right on this. Where do i send the money!
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send it to some charity, finally do something good in your life (not saying that you're not doing it, ever)
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It's funny how you leave out so much shit with your stories man.

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i was amazed when you got back to me with signature locations and younity projects... and i loved the logo we did for signature, aswell as the site's general layout, remember it? i needed some materials, then i got ill and then communication died... i sent you last e-mail to your only e-mail i had (mych [at] earthlink [dot] net) and through which you always replied... it was 4th october and that mail ended with (quoted):

"Please, contact me back just to confirm you received this e-mail and
feel free to be sincere and share all your thoughts with me."
i never got any contact nor anything else from you afterwards.
You are SO full of shit and don't even play the good guy here.

Yes, i DID NOT get back to you after your Oct 4th email...WHY?????
BECAUSE I ALREADY SPENT THE PAST TWO MONTHS PRIOR to that Oct 4th email, TRYING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU!! You complete disappeared.
Don't even go there with me dude...

Unlike your life and your shitty business ethics, people have deadlines to meet here in the real world. You completely ignored all my emails and icqs. Just admit you stole my money.

Yes, you did the logo but REFUSED to send me the files. You ignored ALL my requests. Email after email, you ignored me completely.
Yes, you did a front page comp but REFUSED to finish it. You kept saying "it's coming don't worry!" and then you would disappeared. How fucking long does a client have to wait for you and your drama to finish something up? 5 fucking months???? No matter how many times i tried to contact you, there was no response.

To this day, i still have NOTHING.

Then you come here saying "well, i did email you on the 4th of Oct"...but yet you neglect to tell everyone here that i spent months PRIOR to the email trying to get in touch with you. Asking you over and over for my files that I PAID in full for.


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if you wish, get in touch, you'll get a refund or whatever (some logo or something if you wish), i am neither angry nor disappointed in your comments about me - you've got rights to have own opinion on anything.
I am getting in touch with you, right here.
Refund my money. I don't want shit from you except for my money back.
I made the mistake of trusting that you're a decent person and decent business man.

I was even warned by other people about you, but i wouldn't listen.


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and, no, this time it wasn't anything new, it was just a consequence of what happened to me during worst 5-6 months of my life, begining this year. i wish you won't get in that kind of situation in your life, ever.
This is why you're SO full of shit Luka.

You completely disappeared on me, refused to send me my finished logo files, refused to finish the site, and then you blame it ALL on your life problems. Life problems, right???? They're soooo bad, aren't they??

BUT YET, your life problems aren't BAD ENOUGH since you find all the time in the world to work on YOUR projects????

See here:

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after months and months of developing the idea and weeks of working on the website, it's finally up and running. Check it out at.."
Months and months, huh??? Now i know why you left my company hanging and stolen my money. You needed time for your own shit...and most likely, money to probably finance it.

I love how your life problems are sooooo terrible that you have to disappear from clients who's paid you in full ahead of time; but yet you can invest "months and months" into another project while leaving your clients hanging in the dust; AFTER you get all their money.

That is what we call a scammer and thief.


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I sent you an email...when can i expect my 700.00 USD back?
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:49 AM   #30
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** To everyone else, BUYER BEWARE. ** YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.[/QUOTE]

Quite a few people from GFY recommended this guy...hopefully people considering doing business with this guy will see this thread

sad thing is he's a great designer but likes to run off with peoples money
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:50 AM   #31
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yeah just no 25$
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