Originally Posted by AntiDia

Cease and Desists are nothing, until they sue you over them... they do that, you know... SG folks are trigger-happy. I was giving a Caveat Emptor myself because I felt bad for the OG poster of this thread, having seen a lot of crap firsthand.

I agree that no one should pose for SG, but they are pretty good at snockering in young girls who think it's not porn. You ever see them argue about if they are even shooting for a porn site or not? I have. It's weird. They used to advertise in Portland newspapers as an "Artistic Modelling Site," back in 2001... it's creepy. So many of their wannabe models are like 15, 16, and don't get it because it's presented so differently. Yeah, it sucks! I agree completely.

Did the two people in this thread who fell for SG's affiliates shit feel a little duped? That's probably a better word to have used than exploited... I'm curious... if they knew what they were getting into, they would not have put up with SG's song and dance, right?

Originally Posted by quantum-x

As I said - I've not posted before, as until now they have been 'high maintenance' - The instant they closed my account for the second time, WITH FUNDS IN IT - with no mention of being able to do so (terms and conditions are NOT listed on their affiliate page) - that was fraud.

Originally Posted by wonkaj

I'm working on a piece for a magazine about S G. I'm just wondering how much money they froze in the account they closed and any other details you think might be valuable. I read the correspondence between you and S G about your site and their behavior was pretty ridiculous...
Email me if you can- [email protected]

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12413323)

gods girls has an affiliate section now? where?

Originally Posted by tenderobject (Post 12413236)

give me a pass to godsgirls pplease want to jack off :( im lonely

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12413600)

Is it too late for a sig spot?

;)

Originally Posted by divine116 (Post 12413621)

Hi everyone! What's the best thing to do to increase my traffics?

Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 12413094)

godsgirls loves affiliates and will be very nice to them and keep the schizophrenia at bay as much as possible. swear!

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12419334)

You bump a year old thread just to spam? Pretty desperate.

Originally Posted by Dirty Franck (Post 12419334)

You bump a year old thread just to spam? Pretty desperate.

Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 12419491)

this thread was particularly interesting to me because i remember hearing about the cute goths site and the trouble with sg. i have more than my fair share of trouble with sg myself.

Originally Posted by arg (Post 8596878)

Simon,

I'm sure Suicide Girls appreciates your notice, however they prefer Affiliate Program to the term Sponsor. Please create a new thread with the title "WARNING - SCAMMING AFFILIATE PROGRAM: Suicide Girls.com" and close this one.

Afterwards, please be aware that they do not like words in all-capital letters, so close the replacement thread and crate a new one entitled "Warning - Scamming affiliate program: Suicide Girls.com."

Once you've done that, note that they are SuicideGirls.com, not Suicide Girls.com. They appreciate your patience but must once again request that you replace the 2nd replacement thread with one which omits the space in the domain name in the thread title.

They'll look forward to giving you further instructions when the above steps are completed.

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 12419628)

Just make a myspace page like SG did and spam the hell out of your friends list :) tada sales!

Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 12419609)

fine fine fine i will change it. =)

the sig i mean.

revshare change later maaaaybe. ;)

Originally Posted by SG

Dear Mr. X:

I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. (?SuicideGirls?). As you know, your affiliate account with SuicideGirls was terminated over a year ago and you were asked to remove all SuicideGirls images and content from your site, http://www.cutegoths.com.

I see that you have yet to remove this content and request that you do so and confirm its removal to me to prevent legal action being taken against you.

Sincerely,
Leslie A. Cowan
Attorney for SG Services, Inc.

Originally Posted by qx

Dear Leslie

Four points, if I may.
#1 - I am not hosting any of the content. Your client is making it freely available to be linked to. Preventing this is facile, and is an action they can take at any time. In fact, I'm willing to provide your clients, directly, or via you, the code to do so. Not only that, as your client has probably failed to mention, they receive all credit and traffic that is sent via that page [minimal as it may be], as a gratuity.
#2 - You have not made it clear to me what, if anything is infringing..
#3 - I only respond to legal inquiries that are sent via registered post. As you are no doubt aware, there are many public cases where the DCMA has been cited inconsistently, much to the embarrassment of the issuing parties.
#4 - Following on from that, I am having troubles finding your name registered with any legal firms. If you could please update me on your credentials, for reasons highlighted above, I would be most appreciative.

I am not raising any of these points to be inflammatory, but merely as a standard response to help me understand the situation at hand, which I am sure you respect.
I am more than happy to further this discussion to the points above.

Yours faithfully,
X

Originally Posted by SG

Dear Mr. X:

The infringing content on your site consists of SuicideGirls images, of which SuicideGirls is the copyright owner. The following images are posted without our authorization on your site:

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...viewmedium.jpg

stack more images hosted on their site listed

Please promptly remove these images.
Sincerely,
Leslie A. Cowan

Attorney for SG Services, Inc.

Originally Posted by qx

Dear Leslie.
You have not addressed any of the points I have mentioned in my previous email.

Again, I am more than happy to comply, but until you address the points in my email, I cannot take such actions:
Namely, my attorney advises that:
1) You provide details of which state you are licensed in, and
2) A proper DCMA complaint [if that is indeed what you are wishing to lodge]

I am advised that I am able to proceed quite rapidly in compliance with you, but again I must draw attention to point number 1 in my previous email.
I will repeat what I said: I AM NOT HOSTING THIS CONTENT. THIS CONTENT IS ON YOUR SERVERS, FREELY AVAILABLE FOR ALL TO LINK TO.

This practice is called hotlinking, and is ENTIRELY preventable by your 'client', and is also entirely your 'client's' responsibility.
There are established precedents dismissing previous legal cases of 'hotlinking'.

If you are concerned about protecting your IP, please refer to:
http://images.google.com/images?q=su...=1&sa=N&tab=wi [set safe search preferences to off]
Which details just over 669,000 sites that are actively stealing your 'client's' content.

In the meantime, perhaps you can point your 'client's' technical team to the following link:
http://www.besthostratings.com/artic...t-linking.html

Once this is implemented, you will find that the 'infringing content' is no longer on my site.

I would encourage you to read the above points, and the points raised in my previous email.
The power to 'fix' this problem is entirely in your 'client's' hands.

Yours faithfully

Originally Posted by SG

Dear Mr. X:

I am licensed to practice law in the state of California. You are not
authorized to post these images since your affiliate account has been
terminated and you have been repeatedly asked to remove them. If you want a
DMCA format notice, here it is:


I am an attorney for SG Services, Inc. ("SuicideGirls").
I am writing to report copyright infringement on your site.

Copyrighted images owned by SuicideGirls appear on your site
http://www.cutegoths.com at the following links:
http://www.suicidegirls.com/media/gi...ox/previewmedi
um.jpg

more links that.. are on their site [?!]


Acting as an agent on behalf of SuicideGirls, I have a good faith belief
that the use of the photos identified above is not authorized by
SuicideGirls, any agent, or the law. I further declare, under penalty of
perjury, that the above is accurate, that SuicideGirls is the copyright
owner of all of the photos identified above and that I am authorized to act
on behalf of SuicideGirls.

SuicideGirls hereby reserves all rights and remedies it has at law and in
equity and nothing contained herein shall be deemed a waiver of such rights
or an election of remedies. Please let me know if you have any questions
concerning the above.

Sincerely,

Leslie A. Cowan
Attorney for SG Services, Inc.
6121 Santa Monica Blvd. #102
Los Angeles, CA 90038
(323) 667-9000
[email protected]

Originally Posted by qx

Ms Cowan:
As you're well aware:
#1 - I'm Australian. The DMCA doesn't actually exist outside of America. You know this.
#2 - "Repeatedly asked to remove" - the last conversation I had with your offices was the 30/11/2005. There was no takedown demand.
#3 - If I had the time or patience, I'd be filing a counter request. You know exactly how this would end up. But then again, I'm not American, so it wouldn't actually be legal.
#4 - Hotlinking is not copyright infringement. There is no case law. You know this.

For your reference, I've included a picture that might help you.
You can print it out and colour it in, if you like.
http://www.cutegoths.com/hithere.gif

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 12419983)

Oh hello, look what got bumped.