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amalekite 11-09-2005 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PixeLs
The ones who came here by that time (17,000 years ago) using that land bridge connecting Russia and North America could have been the ancestors of the native americans. White men just came here right after Amerigo Vespucci discovered the place on the 15th century.

not really sure... But the Cherokee have a story of "monsters with white eyes"

Some people think that the Cherokee had encounted white people before.

iwantchixx 11-09-2005 06:40 PM

bottom line, they can work for a better life. Do they chose to? NO. Sure the odd one does do it and gets off the reserve and has a nice life.. but they are shunned by their band and acused of selling out.

Fuck them.

Wanna work for a good life? Congrats :)
Wanna sit on welfare drinking, fighting, fucking anything that moves, crying about what someone did to their great great grandparents 200 years ago? Go fuck yourself.

Paul Waters 11-09-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female
What our (Americans) ancestors did to Native Americans was disgraceful and wrong. This country was founded on lies, violence, and crime.

Your ancestors were terrorists.

:disgust

nico-t 11-09-2005 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy
Let me tell you. Most of the tribes are now making upfor that with cash. If they have a casino, the money that it makes has to be devided between tribe members.

A friend just got her papers from her tribe along with her first monthly check. It was 18k.

they said that the money goes up and down, depending on the income, but it is usually pretty high.

do these tribes adopt dutch white guys?

pr0 11-09-2005 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PixeLs
The ones who came here by that time (17,000 years ago) using that land bridge connecting Russia and North America could have been the ancestors of the native americans. White men just came here right after Amerigo Vespucci discovered the place on the 15th century.

DNA shows a tribe of white men from france crossed an ice age sea 10-17,000 years ago. Fishing along the way to sustain their existence, & stopping on icebergs during blizzards.

They've got the DNA of some northern indian tribes & also they have found arrow heads native to the french tribe.

amalekite 11-09-2005 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0
DNA shows a tribe of white men from france crossed an ice age sea 10-17,000 years ago. Fishing along the way to sustain their existence, & stopping on icebergs during blizzards.

They've got the DNA of some northern indian tribes & also they have found arrow heads native to the french tribe.

interesting...

I read some of De Sotos journal online and he described tall light skinned people living among the native tribes in Florida

Tall whites have been found buried in present day China... that predate the Chinese

SongRider 11-09-2005 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley
Ok, so for tens of thousands of years the best they could do is come up with little shacks made out of buffalo ass to live in.

We take their shit, true, but in just a few hundred years, they're now running casinos and all of that.

Sure, many of them still live in little shit shacks, but that's because they try to run their own governments, and apparently haven't evolved socially much since they days they lived in buffalo ass housing.


And this post here shows how stupid some people still are.

There is a beauty in living simple that most people just dont get..... Being connected with the earth and only taking what you need to live. Native Americans had the richest land on the earth for a long time and they took care of it and it took care of them.

And I bet they lived much fuller lives then most of us will. And they passed there love and lessons down for years upon years....

Unlike the white man they looked at the land as a place to live.... not gain power and profit from it.

Respect was earned, the amount of cash you held and toys you had didnt mean shit as compared to the man/woman you were.

reed_4 11-10-2005 12:18 AM

they were really screwed.

MetroPornTour 11-10-2005 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by J-$
same shit here in Canada... though they're good to have on your side, these guys are the worst wife beaters, alcoholics, junkies and all that shit. thats what happens when you get raised already knowing you dont need to work in order to live comfortably. these guys got some kick ass weed though, and they sell guns too

Considering I'm half Mi'gmaq...
Thank you for the compliments.

But I really must say we natives owe all to you.

Matt 26z 11-10-2005 01:45 AM

Give me a break!

Do you guys really believe they are in bad shape today because whites took their land hundreds of years ago? This has nothing to do with land. Most of the US isn't even developed yet. There are vast open spaces throughout the Midwest and northwestern states where Indians could be living their pre-white man lives.

The real story here is that advanced humans navigated the Atlantic ocean and came upon people dancing around a fire to cure illness. This advanced culture was injected into their stoneage culture and shit hit the fan for them.

If you guys really believe the native American way of life was good, then go build a shack in Montana and live off the land for the next decade.

MissEve 11-10-2005 03:03 AM

My Grandfather is half Eskimo and because of that I get free health care. It always seems a little crazy to me when I go to the doctor and its just FREE. For those of you that don't know, Alaska doesn't have reservations. The Alaska Native Land Claims Settlement Act was created in the 70's and turned geographic areas of Alaska into corporations. Some of these corporations have been very successful and pay out huge dividends. Russians and other non-natives were grandfathered in.

Alaskan natives are definitely treated as second class citizens. Sometimes it seems well deserved. Many of the tribe leaders were corrupt and made tons of money during the building of the pipeline. We have some of the highest rates of rape, alcoholism and violence in the villages. The dark, cold winters and booze arent a great combo for natives.

MetroPornTour 11-10-2005 03:50 AM

Native problems are long and often really complex. Yea, I have to admit there is a ton of alcoholism, drug, domestic violence and other problems. And the corruption amoungst leaders is as thick as it comes.

But it has been proven time and time again. That when natives are given control and they work with traditional elders. Things get a hell of alot better very quickly.

I can't explain it and I won't even try. There is something deeply part of most natives that cries out for their culture. When it's lost or made into nothing more than a tourist attraction. We get really fucked up really fast. Somehow we don't fully fit in a european world.

I have never done any drugs in my life and I have never been drunk. (Ok, very tipsy but not drunk)

But I've always done everything I can to keep the customs and be close to my roots. Even when I'm living thousands of kilometres away.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-24-2005 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sosa
Ok, I live close to a reservation one of the poorest in the country by the way. My opinions of them are different then most people because most people have not seen how these Native Americans go about their lives. Sure they got land took away from them etc, but all they do NOW is sit at home, drink and do drugs. 90% of them are that way on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. Now the other 10% are awesome and actually work and raise there family with morals. The others have has many kids as they can because then they get a bigger check from the government every fucking month...

what is really funny about us Americans is that most are so ignorant they cannot see the effects of their own damage

theese people are this way because history has made them this way

they have been raped,,,,murdered and tortured all for trying to help the white man

they were foolish but they did not know that theese people were such of evil blood

the long term of effect on the indians is the same as it was on blacks and most any othe race touched by the violent ways of the cauca european

total devastation of culture

instead of downing them and talking shit about them drinking etc.....

understand why they are in this position in the first place

definitely not by any fault of their own


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