the problem is that we humans have an ego problem and we also can't beleive in something we can't explain. why would we want to beleive in a higher power that doesnt show its face to us? how is it possible that something out there is greater than us?

people have an easier time beleiving in aliens than in a god.

also, omnipotence is something our feeble minds will never understand so we can leave it at that.

either you beleive or you don't.

i have always believed in a higher power and i always will.

nice nice.

i belive in aliens AND God

thats what belief is, its believing in something that may not immediatly be infront of us.

fact is as humans we do not know shit, imo there is so much more to our being that we are not even aware of that i dont understand why people do not believe in anything?

I've always told my wife that I want my epitaph to read, "Gone to see for himself."

Seriously...


SilentKnight

hehe pimped. :thumbsup

We all experience different and individual circumstances throughout each of our lives - the interpretation of which shape our beliefs or non-beliefs.


SilentKnight

what if I belive in science, and evolution, etc...???

The fact that you belive in god makes you closer to a religion...sure its not an organized religion, because you'd be the only one in it...but you still share some common ideas with most of the religions....

(I get your point...just tossing some ideas around :P )

I pray to my Mystical Unicorn that God rides

When we die its over period so live life now to the fullest..

all good for convo, i dont mind answering,

I DO believe in eveolution,
and i also belive in God.

you could say the same for just about anything in this world, its ideas based and evolved off one another.

and i said my beliefs CHANGE, religions is a concrete faction, my beliefs constantly take different spins depending.

Who among us would be willing to voluntarily undergo a medical flatline and be brought back to life in a gamble/attempt to see if there's anything beyond...?

(yeah, yeah...thinkin' of that old movie with Kevin Bacon, heh)

who knows if you go,
think of people who are vegtables basically, where are their minds?

50 godless heathens!

god is cool :thumbsup

God is just something we believe to keep us from feeling our lives are not worthless and meaningless so we create this imaginary thing to comfort us.

Like kids do with imaginary friends

Parliament Hill?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

no no its not,

what about the people who think the earth and mother nature is its own God?
some people believe Satan is God.

if we die and there is nothing then we have nothing to worry about anyway.

i think people today are afraid to belive because they dont have someone guiding them in beliefs, which they shouldnt in the first place.

you should be able to sum up your life and the things around it and create your own beliefes through it.

Exactly when we die its game over no after life etc. the only thing you can do is leave your blood behind with children.

But most people are weak and they need something to grasp onto when lonely or hopeless

This was brought up in another thread I saw earlier in the day.

And I think the reply to it was something along the lines of - but if there's no god...then you've lived a life of servitude to the god you've put your faith in all along.

i dont really base my beliefs on being lonely and hopeless, i base them on the facts of discovery and how big the universe is and how small we are and what little we do know.

i do not want to die and be told everything, i am human and yearn for discovery, and i see afterlife as just a new discovery.

again people mixing up reiligion and beliefs,

i do not have any "servitude" as i said in the original post of this thread my belifes evovle and have evolved many many times.

i am a servant to no religion, and my beliefs do not stop me from exploring life.

I was raised a catholic but my fathers a Christian and my mothers a jew.

So my parents let me decide what to believe in. and with all the information I have gathered for myself I have come to believe there is no god or special forces in the world only those we create within ourselves to make it another day.

thats cool, i respect your beliefs, i am not trying to convince anyone to change just discussing how beliefs can be possitive.

side note:

so what do you think happens to murdered children or murdered rape victims?

do you think that is just "it"?

What do you think happens to them?

You'll have to excuse my perspective. In my circle of acquaintance most people I know view belief/religion as one and the same - black or white. You either believe and are therefore religious, or you don't and you're an atheist.

That's just my experience, is all.


SilentKnight

people who believe in god do not realize that they are little children looking up to their drunk dad who keeps telling them Santa is real, easter bunny will come to visit and mom will never die.

i really do not know what i believe, it is beyond me even trying to comprhend/explain.

i do though believe there is something after is which they are rested (soul).

even when i think about re incarnation it makes just as much sense.

the only thing i DO NOT believe in is that is "it".

i believe in god, even though the posts i make may lead u to think otherwise

i just am sick of seeing close minded idiots that believe blindly in their faith. you cannot simply think "there is a god" and expect to get into heaven. if it were that easy only the retards would be getting in. if you believe in a god, you probably believe you were given a mind to use and be able to think and analyze the world around you, not just "there is a god, lemme in heaven"

i believe in god, i also strongly believe in evolution.

people are afraid to believe because they are afraid of being wrong.

Oh great! Now Santa and the Easter Bunny are fictitious, too?!?

I need another beer!

me also evolution + God,

if you're talking about your other thread it just got me thinking, dont feel a need that you need to explain yourself. i didnt try to make it cross reference yours or anything along those lines, :)

just thought about how alot of people on here feel beliefs +instead of religion cannot go.

Yes a very misfortunate happening.. People want to believe in something good because they can face the fact that it?s over when you die. and something so bad could happen to good people. well it happens everyday and if there was a god or whatever it wouldnt happen at all :2 cents:

So people conjure up these mystic gods etc.

All I know is I make the best of what I have and try to live life to the fullest while I'm still physically able too. Once I die thats it and it scares the fuck out of me sometimes because I don't want to die I have a great life

there is no FACT of what happens, it is only belief of what will happen.

IE the point of my thread. :winkwink:

not all gods are "mystic" how do you know you're already dead? :winkwink:

well you wont have anything to worry about when it happens if that is the case. :upsidedow

Why do I now have that "What if god was one of us...just a stranger on a bus" lyric goin' through my brain at this hour? :winkwink:

you are obviously a hiking boot wearing lesbian. :winkwink:

Main Entry: mystic
Function: noun
1 : a follower of a mystical way of life
2 : an advocate of a theory of mysticism

show me one fact of any god like power and I will believe..

If there was a God? priest wouldnt be molesting powerless children :2 cents: or kids wouldnt be starving etc.

and if there is a God i say Fuck him for what he is allowing to happen to good children and people. He has a sick sense of humor

god spelled backwards is "DOG" ... makes me suspicious..

God gets a bad rap , but i'm sure he is a good guy... killing all those babies doesn't look good on his record.. maybe if he cleared his rap sheet or something ..

I bet if he had heaven on MTV cribs he would be alot more popular.. tell him that next time you talk to him..

I dont know if god exists or not , but im sure if he does , he doesnt want us worrying about him all the time.

:1orglaugh

Close, except wrong gender - wrong footwear.

Main Entry: mys·ti·cism
Pronunciation: 'mis-t&-"si-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality reported by mystics
2 : the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight)
3 a : vague speculation : a belief without sound basis b : a theory postulating the possibility of direct and intuitive acquisition of ineffable knowledge or power

haha there is the norm blaming someone else for what is happened, you said it yourself basically "SHIT HAPPENS" there is no one to blame.

why do people have the conception "if there is a God he controls us"?

shouldnt you be saying "FUCK HUMANS" we are such an "intelligent" species yet we have so much evil. arent we to blame?

i am not taking this thread into PROOFS, there are no proofs from either side, i am talking about beliefs, and i do understand and respect yours and think yours are "as possible" as mine.

totally agree.

people keep trying to turn this into a religion God thing,

i am talking about beliefs not who is right/wrong.

Main Entry: 1god
Pronunciation: 'gäd also 'god
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English; akin to Old High German got god
1 capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: as a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped as creator and ruler of the universe b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
3 : a person or thing of supreme value
4 : a powerful ruler




I am my Own God