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romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 04:47 PM

Hey everyone-
I'm just hanging out and watching TV for the next 45 min. I was thinking about a lot of great help and advice I've recieved from others, so I thought maybe I could be of help to others...

So, Ive noticed there are a lot of gay sites where IMHO they get terminology wrong or use the wrong pics, text, etc... I also know that a lot of the straight linklists/TGP offer gay traffic, but there are a lot of great gay only sites that do as well which straight webmasters might not be aware of.

So ask me anything you want about the gay adult market or gay culture in general ;)

I'll do my best to give you some good advice and give you the right leads...

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 04:56 PM

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ajrocks · 11-08-2005, 05:19 PM

Where do you get good gay traffic from?

billywatson · 11-08-2005, 05:30 PM

Are my straight bois strokeable?

http://www.nowayamigay.com/tour/

Sly · 11-08-2005, 05:32 PM

What are some good gay link lists? Can you name off about 12?

billywatson · 11-08-2005, 05:34 PM

http://www.dutydudes.com/tour/

Do my military bois make you hot?

BrettJ · 11-08-2005, 05:37 PM

top 5 sponsors (for overall consistent check size) ?

Is it still and underserved (either through quality or quantity of promotional resources including but not limited to sites to promote and content to use in promotion) ?

Top 5 biggest gay niches?

Citizen Cain · 11-08-2005, 05:42 PM

do you spit or swallow?

BrettJ · 11-08-2005, 06:46 PM

damn looks like I posted too late in this thread... but doesn't look like you answered any of the questions. =(

Porterrun · 11-08-2005, 06:51 PM

lol Brett

Porterrun · 11-08-2005, 06:52 PM

Sean cody, Corbin Fisher, PrideBucks, Topbucks (Gay) Blueloot... few more

dig420 · 11-08-2005, 06:53 PM

how much will you pay for the domains pussyboy.com, pussymouth.com and kingcock.com?

oh yeah I have dreamdick.com as well

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks

Where do you get good gay traffic from?

Sorry everyone - bad timing. My connection kept going in and out...

Some good gay linklists/TGP:
justusboys.com
altagaylinks.com
allgaylinx.com
gaybeef.com
welovecock.com
cloland.com

checkout cybersocket link list category: http://cybersocket.com/searchresults...earch_type=cat

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson

Are my straight bois strokeable?

http://www.nowayamigay.com/tour/

the guys look straight, but arent that hot... at least to me. The design is very colorful and makes me think of the twink niche, so I dont think the models match the color scheme.

Think more cute, preppy Abercombie & Fitch college boys. check out seancody.com to see what I mean

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettJ

top 5 sponsors (for overall consistent check size) ?

Is it still and underserved (either through quality or quantity of promotional resources including but not limited to sites to promote and content to use in promotion) ?

Top 5 biggest gay niches?

Biggest niches... I don't think I'm big enough to answer. However, regular Hardcore, Twinks and the whole "Straight Guy" thing could be the top 3.

If you know how to work it Bears, interracial and leather can do quite well.

Also, gay ebony/thug converted the best for me ;)

In terms of being underserved, I think yes. There arent as many exclusive content sites, and the only good ones are gay owned & operated. Many of the big programs dont have great content, except for topbucks.

I also think the gay solo teen niche could really explode like the solo girl sites have.... someone could do very well if they had an exclusive model for one ;)

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson

http://www.dutydudes.com/tour/

Do my military bois make you hot?

cute guys, looks very convincing especially the amateur ish video caps. However, I would do all that kind of video, or have all the episodes in the style of the photo shoot one to make it more convincing - otherwise the content looks random

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 07:08 PM

Another thing that might be helpful. A lot of guys have a preference for content from one studio or another. Ones to check out:

? Bel Ami - the best twinks and most popular. Their program is http://www.belamicash.com
? Naked Sword one of the best PPV/Membership gay video sites
? Chi Chi LaRue a very well known director of gay porn (also does straight titles for vivid)
? Falcon Studios really well shot stuff, very big, could be considered the "Vivid of the Gay world"

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 07:11 PM

Make Sure to Check Out Banana Guide - they have a lot of traffic and promote a lot of gay only sponsors, so you can see what they reccomend.

Also check out their Site Reviews - Its very helpful!

Taboo · 11-08-2005, 07:36 PM

I feel hesitant asking this one...

serious question.

how derogatory is the term FAG when used in gay marketing... it's part of one of my domains, and I have no desire to use the domain, it's something I picked up in a big drop and a gay friend told me it's great, but questionable. last thing I want to do is insult my target market.

thanks in advance...

.

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

I feel hesitant asking this one...

serious question.

how derogatory is the term FAG when used in gay marketing... it's part of one of my domains, and I have no desire to use the domain, it's something I picked up in a big drop and a gay friend told me it's great, but questionable. last thing I want to do is insult my target market.

thanks in advance...

.

Frankly, its pretty derogatory... some gay guys use it between themselves, others dont.

also, for marketing purposes I wouldnt use it at all - even if its gay owned I think most of the gay audience wouldnt be responsive to it.

What is the domain and what is it for? that might shed some more light for me....

The Ghost · 11-08-2005, 08:05 PM

What are your thoughts on our new Amateur Cruisers site? Thanks

FreeFastHost · 11-08-2005, 08:15 PM

Why do gaygravy.com sites convert so good?

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost

What are your thoughts on our new Amateur Cruisers site? Thanks

As far as content goes, it looks decent for the theme of the site. However, on some design notes there is a lot of text and I dont think most surfers will read it.

While I dont know what other webmasters would say, but I always think its good to have an image of a really hot model looking directly at the camera - its like they are looking right at the surfer and are flirting or cruising them.

Also, you might want to play up the kind of "naughty" aspects of it. Some text from your site "The shy straight stud you see at the movies making out with his girlfriend." - its good text, so play up that angle and give the site a sexy, forbidden angle... like its the surfer and the model's dirty little secret.

then again just my two cents

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

Why do gaygravy.com sites convert so good?

While the design isn't amazingly good looking, the text is large and the set up really explains easily the whole concept of each site - that is generally good for all paysites, gay or straight.

Also, the content looks exclusive - if it isnt I doubt its saturated. Brazilian guys are good looking, and a lot of gay guys I know like latin men. Their content reflects this and the models on the site seem to be really into the sex.

Cory W · 11-08-2005, 08:28 PM

Well I will be damned, an informative thread.

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEG Cory

Well I will be damned, an informative thread.

thanks

I have a bunch of site ideas but Im just a part timer, so I like helping people with this market. If you all want any more help you can ICQ me at 160001441

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 08:44 PM

oh- I cant believe I forgot HunkHunter.com one of the oldest and largest sites. They gave me a lot of great AVS traffic back in the day

Porterrun · 11-08-2005, 08:55 PM

Dennis is the best (HunkHunter.. good mention dude)
Got me started in 1997

dont forget Outster.com

Damian_Maxcash · 11-08-2005, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porterrun

Dennis is the best (HunkHunter.. good mention dude)
Got me started in 1997

dont forget Outster.com

Damn - thats a blast from the past.

Isnt he running ManPics now as well?

As far as best Niche I would say "old on young" - it never fails.

Also if you can get the content, REAL amateur pics of real trailor trash converts like crazy. The rougher the better

Also add linkmeallover to the link lists as well - I think its still going.

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Also add linkmeallover to the link lists as well - I think its still going.

linkmeallover was revamped and turned into justusboys (or bought by them, either way..)

Damian_Maxcash · 11-08-2005, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

linkmeallover was revamped and turned into justusboys (or bought by them, either way..)

Shit - I just took a look

Thats an improvement over the old site

Hunkmen.com used to send me some good traffic as well....

Is he still around?

SilentKnight · 11-08-2005, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

So ask me anything you want about the gay adult market or gay culture in general ;)

I'll do my best to give you some good advice and give you the right leads...

Howdy, I've been readin' some of the earlier posts...you seem to have some very good experienced advice in this niche.

If possible, would you mind checkin' out Scrunt's Male BDSM Erotica and give a brief rundown of your thoughts on it?

Any input would be appreciated.

SilentKnight

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Howdy, I've been readin' some of the earlier posts...you seem to have some very good experienced advice in this niche.

If possible, would you mind checkin' out Scrunt's Male BDSM Erotica and give a brief rundown of your thoughts on it?

Any input would be appreciated.

SilentKnight

I think you need a more traditional tour with previews of the pictures and other content you have inside the members area.

At first when I came to http://www.kastlearchives.com/scrunt/main.html
I thought it was a linklist and just scrolled down and saw all the recip banners on the bottom.

Taboo · 11-08-2005, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

Frankly, its pretty derogatory... some gay guys use it between themselves, others dont.

also, for marketing purposes I wouldnt use it at all - even if its gay owned I think most of the gay audience wouldnt be responsive to it.

What is the domain and what is it for? that might shed some more light for me....

FagFuck.com

like I said, it wasn't my idea.. it got picked up from an expired list or something... because i thad the word fuck in it. LOL.

I'm not trying to be derogatory so don't associate it with me... I want to target the gay adult market so I'll probably be adding a huge gay section to my other domain, Curious.com, if it launches as a dating site.

I just wanted to know if FagFuck.com goes too far...

feedback? so what do you think of the domain Curious.com ???

.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-08-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

I think you need a more traditional tour with previews of the pictures and other content you have inside the members area.

At first when I came to http://www.kastlearchives.com/scrunt/main.html
I thought it was a linklist and just scrolled down and saw all the recip banners on the bottom.

Mmmm - I think you're being kind - The only porn I saw on the main page was str8 - Not good for a gay site.

Employ someone to do a site design for you - you have some great content and could do REALLY well with it.

If you open an affiliate prog and allow me to design my own site Id join for sure.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-08-2005, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taboo

FagFuck.com

like I said, it wasn't my idea.. it got picked up from an expired list or something... because i thad the word fuck in it. LOL.

I'm not trying to be derogatory so don't associate it with me... I want to target the gay adult market so I'll probably be adding a huge gay section to my other domain, Curious.com, if it launches as a dating site.

I just wanted to know if FagFuck.com goes too far...

feedback? so what do you think of the domain Curious.com ???

.

Im curious - what would you want for a domain like that?

Sly · 11-08-2005, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeFastHost

Why do gaygravy.com sites convert so good?

romeoboi · 11-08-2005, 10:18 PM

im off to bed ;)

hope I was of some help and got you all thinking.
ciao

SilentKnight · 11-08-2005, 10:21 PM

Appreciate the feedback from both of ya's. And I quite agree with all your points. The site's been due for a major overhaul for quite some time.

I'll keep your suggestions in mind when I get to work on the revamp sometime soon.

SilentKnight

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