Is legal immigration good for America? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr. Marks · 11-06-2005, 02:10 AM

Instead of relying on incoming immigrants, why can't the US rely on its own internal minorities for labor and invest in their job skills? Maybe you'd get less cries of racism if American immigration was shut off for, say, 50 years?

Also, the immigrants coming in aren't even filtered for professional credentials--for every one skilled H1 petition (which I support) you get tons of unskilled immigrants petitioned in due to the 'family reunification' portion of the immigration code. It's a joke. I can understand a kick ass designer or engineer coming to the US--they can readily contribute skill sets or creativity we may not have (depending on the situation/skill set--designers, take a deep breath) but I don't understand a mom petitioning an adult child and only have that 'child' work as a dish washer when they get here. I'd say let em stay in the home country and come back once they get fully educated and skilled.

What are your thoughts?

Mr. Marks · 11-06-2005, 02:20 AM

So everyone supports the current system?

grumpy · 11-06-2005, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by papichulo

Instead of relying on incoming immigrants, why can't the US rely on its own internal minorities for labor and invest in their job skills? Maybe you'd get less cries of racism if American immigration was shut off for, say, 50 years?

Also, the immigrants coming in aren't even filtered for professional credentials--for every one skilled H1 petition (which I support) you get tons of unskilled immigrants petitioned in due to the 'family reunification' portion of the immigration code. It's a joke. I can understand a kick ass designer or engineer coming to the US--they can readily contribute skill sets or creativity we may not have (depending on the situation/skill set--designers, take a deep breath) but I don't understand a mom petitioning an adult child and only have that 'child' work as a dish washer when they get here. I'd say let em stay in the home country and come back once they get fully educated and skilled.

What are your thoughts?

You shouldnt complain, you or your parents are probally imigrants to. So do what your fellow americans did when your family arrived at the states. help.

Antonio · 11-06-2005, 05:39 AM

legal AND ILLEGAL immigration is good for America

I'll try to keep it simple. What do you need in order to succeed?
Two things: brains and/or balls. Legal immigration brings tha brains to your country and illegal immigration brings the balls (the people with balls).

That's why the USA was the greatest country in the world (before Bush turned it into 'our army kills innocent people overseas because I feel like it", and "there's nothing worng with torture", and "we can keep you for 72 hours without a telephone call because you might or might not be a terrorist" country)

slapass · 11-06-2005, 07:15 AM

Legal immigration is as hard as hell. Doing some of that myself and what a pain in the ass.

Odin · 11-06-2005, 07:22 AM

Pap, i love your threads. You laid off for a while? What happened? I remember when you used to post these types of threads daily... I don't know much about the American immigration situation, but I can say that from an Australian perspective, and someone who has travelled around Europe I think mass-migration is damaging these nations, and their way of life. Australia is no longer Australian, and even true blue Australians are being slowly turned into capitalistic whores who couldn't give a fuck about their fellow man.

Overall I think over a hundred or so years you are going to see increasing attempts to wipe out every culture on the planet (starting with the West - which has long been in process). What we will end up with is a bunch of people who only care and share one thing in common money, and in my opinion we will live in a boring, stressful and depressing world. I guess this continues on to other issues, but ultimately it is all tied into the same subject of globalisation. It can have its goods, but I think on a more personal and human level it is going to be a very damaging process to what really makes this planet great - something money can't buy.

amalekite · 11-06-2005, 12:17 PM

Just look at every city in the US. MExican neighborhoods are slums... black neighborhoods are ghettoes. WHy on earth would anybody want more of that?

Xplicit · 11-06-2005, 02:02 PM

We need a couple million of em' to do the REALLY shitty jobs.

But at a rate of 3 million PER YEAR comming into the country, WE HAVE ENOUGH, CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER.

pornguy · 11-06-2005, 02:14 PM

If you close the borders, the price of any farming related product that you purchase will double. The homes that you are building will double or more.

AmateurFlix · 11-06-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit

We need a couple million of em' to do the REALLY shitty jobs.

But at a rate of 3 million PER YEAR comming into the country, WE HAVE ENOUGH, CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER.

I don't think there would be as much of an issue with actual immigrants if they'd be more restrictive about who was let in that didn't actually intend to become a citizen.

Every once in a while I see something in the news about someone who's been living and working in this country for 5 or ten years and still has some kind of 'visa'. WTF? If you want to live in a country that long, work there and benefit from their public services, either become a citizen or go back to your home country. 10 years is a long time to give someone to decide whether or not they want to make a land their new residence. I suppose there would be certain situations that might warrant an exception but not very many.

tranza · 11-06-2005, 05:47 PM

in some way it is

11-06-2005, 02:10 AM	#1
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Is legal immigration good for America? Instead of relying on incoming immigrants, why can't the US rely on its own internal minorities for labor and invest in their job skills? Maybe you'd get less cries of racism if American immigration was shut off for, say, 50 years? Also, the immigrants coming in aren't even filtered for professional credentials--for every one skilled H1 petition (which I support) you get tons of unskilled immigrants petitioned in due to the 'family reunification' portion of the immigration code. It's a joke. I can understand a kick ass designer or engineer coming to the US--they can readily contribute skill sets or creativity we may not have (depending on the situation/skill set--designers, take a deep breath) but I don't understand a mom petitioning an adult child and only have that 'child' work as a dish washer when they get here. I'd say let em stay in the home country and come back once they get fully educated and skilled. What are your thoughts?

11-06-2005, 05:39 AM	#4
Antonio Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spartaaaaaaaaa Posts: 14,136	legal AND ILLEGAL immigration is good for America I'll try to keep it simple. What do you need in order to succeed? Two things: brains and/or balls. Legal immigration brings tha brains to your country and illegal immigration brings the balls (the people with balls). That's why the USA was the greatest country in the world (before Bush turned it into 'our army kills innocent people overseas because I feel like it", and "there's nothing worng with torture", and "we can keep you for 72 hours without a telephone call because you might or might not be a terrorist" country) Last edited by Antonio; 11-06-2005 at 05:40 AM..

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Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	So everyone supports the current system?

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Legal immigration is as hard as hell. Doing some of that myself and what a pain in the ass.

11-06-2005, 07:22 AM	#6
Odin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: au Posts: 2,545	Pap, i love your threads. You laid off for a while? What happened? I remember when you used to post these types of threads daily... I don't know much about the American immigration situation, but I can say that from an Australian perspective, and someone who has travelled around Europe I think mass-migration is damaging these nations, and their way of life. Australia is no longer Australian, and even true blue Australians are being slowly turned into capitalistic whores who couldn't give a fuck about their fellow man. Overall I think over a hundred or so years you are going to see increasing attempts to wipe out every culture on the planet (starting with the West - which has long been in process). What we will end up with is a bunch of people who only care and share one thing in common money, and in my opinion we will live in a boring, stressful and depressing world. I guess this continues on to other issues, but ultimately it is all tied into the same subject of globalisation. It can have its goods, but I think on a more personal and human level it is going to be a very damaging process to what really makes this planet great - something money can't buy.

11-06-2005, 12:17 PM	#7
amalekite Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 162	Just look at every city in the US. MExican neighborhoods are slums... black neighborhoods are ghettoes. WHy on earth would anybody want more of that?

11-06-2005, 02:02 PM	#8
Xplicit Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: █◄►█ Posts: 3,558	We need a couple million of em' to do the REALLY shitty jobs. But at a rate of 3 million PER YEAR comming into the country, WE HAVE ENOUGH, CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER.