Bad news for weed smokers: Holland will ban the selling of cannabis for tourists. - GoFuckYourself.com

alexg · 11-04-2005, 02:42 PM

Looks like there won't be no more trips to amsterdam for the purpose of getting stoned...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510311,00.html

Jace · 11-04-2005, 02:45 PM

wow, there goes holland's tourist revenue

HarrytheNazi · 11-04-2005, 02:46 PM

...The London Sun? OMG

FuqALot · 11-04-2005, 02:49 PM

Haha. Nope.

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 02:50 PM

They talked about it for a while now ... That would kill a part of the tourism thought

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 02:52 PM

Mental illness among users has rocketed ? and experts warn pot may soon be seen as a hard drug.

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yahhhhhhhhh right ... it causes less damages then alchool

smack · 11-04-2005, 02:53 PM

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Experts say teens who often smoke pot are 4½ times more likely to suffer psychosis or schizophrenia in their 20s.

liars. big fat liars.

Maxy · 11-04-2005, 02:54 PM

What mental illness are they talking about? anyone got any sources?

Jace · 11-04-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

liars. big fat liars.

hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL

Libertine · 11-04-2005, 02:56 PM

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Dutch health ministry spokesman Ton Cramer said it was likely that cannabis would soon be outlawed again.

That article reeks of bullshit.

Head_Hunter · 11-04-2005, 02:59 PM

ggrrrrr....

smack · 11-04-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL

if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

liars. big fat liars.

Actually it accelerate the symptoms ... wich would normally appear later in life.

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxy

What mental illness are they talking about? anyone got any sources?

Smoking lots of weed definitly have some symptoms like anxiety, paranoya, deformed view of reality and other stuff like that . It's nothing TOO big and obvious, but on the long term, it does have it's effects

alexg · 11-04-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

liars. big fat liars.

what makes you think so?

smack · 11-04-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

what makes you think so?

i have done a highly scientific study of potheads.

Scott McD · 11-04-2005, 03:22 PM

Ah well, won't bother me, i don't smoke the shit anyway.

If i go to Amsterdam, it's for the whores anyway...

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

Dude it has nothing to do with MAKING you a schytzo ... Lots of schytzos have no symptoms till the 40s etc etc etc. It just makes them appear quickly ...

And you can argue all day about that but ...
My father got 2 PhDs ... one of them is in psychology
One of my father's best friend works in a mental instution and treat mostly drug addicts and schytzos
Another of my father best friend works in a drug lab and in a prison testing long term effects of drugs on users. He's a general practitionsist and got a specialisation in neurology and braincells.

I've argued more then enough with them about the effects of drug uses on my friend ... but they know the facts on long term ;)

P.S. All of the people above smoke weed once in a while ;) Just don't abuse it.

smack · 11-04-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Smoking lots of weed definitly have some symptoms like anxiety, paranoya, deformed view of reality and other stuff like that . It's nothing TOO big and obvious, but on the long term, it does have it's effects

slight paranoia is the only thing i have ever expierienced.

explain this deformed view of reality?

alexg · 11-04-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

hahahaha, i didn't even see that...LOL

dude, i know some HUGE stoners...and i don't think i have ever once seen a psycho stoner...LOL

how many psycho non-stoners have you seen?

if none, then it doesn't mean shit.

if you've seen some, then it still doesn't mean shit, because there are a lot more non-stoners than stoners.

you probably didn't research a big population of people and see what % of stoners among them are psycho, and what % of non-stoners are...

that's what EXPERTS are supposed to do. now, I'm not saying these specific EXPERTS did a good studying, but you surely didn't, so you can't really argue with them.

Libertine · 11-04-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Dude it has nothing to do with MAKING you a schytzo ... Lots of schytzos have no symptoms till the 40s etc etc etc. It just makes them appear quickly ...

And you can argue all day about that but ...
My father got 2 PhDs ... one of them is in psychology
One of my father's best friend works in a mental instution and treat mostly drug addicts and schytzos
Another of my father best friend works in a drug lab and in a prison testing long term effects of drugs on users. He's a general practitionsist and got a specialisation in neurology and braincells.

I've argued more then enough with them about the effects of drug uses on my friend ... but they know the facts on long term ;)

P.S. All of the people above smoke weed once in a while ;) Just don't abuse it.

I'm fairly certain they don't know the facts on long term, since those are still highly controversial and are still being researched. One large problem still hampering research is that it seems very likely that people with mental illnesses are more inclined to start using drugs in the first place, making it very difficult determining cause and effect.

SleazyDream · 11-04-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

if that were true i would be in a fucking mental ward by now.

i mean, i am bat shit nuts, but not nearly schizophrenic.

umm - seriously that statement alone proves without a doubt you're a total fucking idiot who doesn't have a clue about statistical annalysis

probally smoking too much pot.....

Libertine · 11-04-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alexg

you probably didn't research a big population of people and see what % of stoners among them are psycho, and what % of non-stoners are...

That only shows correlation, not causation

smack · 11-04-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

umm - seriously that statement alone proves without a doubt you're a total fucking idiot who doesn't have a clue about statistical annalysis

probally smoking too much pot.....

nevermind sleazy, apperently my hyperbole went right over your head.

Radik · 11-04-2005, 03:36 PM

If it's true what a shame.. major $$ gone, and money talks so i think it's fake

Sarah_Jayne · 11-04-2005, 03:37 PM

Have to love the Sun style of making it sound like it is only going to be against British toursits and then filling the majority of the article full of stock statistics about British drug laws rather than filling it with information on their actual headline. Of course, that would have meant they would of had to interview an actual European.

Radiate · 11-04-2005, 04:03 PM

I don't believe the article, the dutch government was talking about this some months ago but from what I heard nothing has come of it yet and almost certainly wont.

I wouldn't believe anything the Sun has to say, it's a pile of shite.

bjjb · 11-04-2005, 04:11 PM

Big deal. i know folks in GB wo go thru hundreds of pounds a month selling and smoking. Not like its gonna cut down on the "abuse" already there lol

budz · 11-04-2005, 04:13 PM

I knew it, they're out to get me and everything I enjoy.

JFK · 11-04-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by punkworld

That article reeks of bullshit.

this whole thing was making the rounds a few months ago already

bjjb · 11-04-2005, 04:15 PM

Funny thing is Guess where the people I know in GB get those 100's of pounds? Yep HOLLAND

hydro · 11-04-2005, 04:19 PM

anything that messes with your brain is going to be bad for you. You hippies can throw the words "natural herb" around all you want but its still bad for you. Its not as bad as cigs, booz, and cocaine but your still better off not using it or if you do use it, only once in a while instead of getting stoned on a daily basis.

Screaming · 11-04-2005, 04:32 PM

You dont have to be a citizen of any country to get an id card do you? You can do that with say a birth cirt and a ss card, or passport?

So, you set up an address there, you take your tourists right to the dmv, or what ever they call it. They all get IDs made with that address and for the weekend, duration of the trip they are from there.

They hand you the IDs at the end of the stay and you can a keep them on file or b destroy them at the travelers request.

Weed smoking tours. All 100% legal, and you are making a nice profit.

All it takes is you buying a decent rental.. Say a B&B.

Doctor Dre · 11-04-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smack

slight paranoia is the only thing i have ever expierienced.

explain this deformed view of reality?

It's really not big effects ... unless you have something else "running in your blood"... As an example, too much self confidence could be a deformed view of reality ...

Libertine · 11-05-2005, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

this whole thing was making the rounds a few months ago already

But it isn't likely at all that cannabis will be outlawed soon, which is what was being claimed in the piece I quoted, and from the looks of it right now, it seems extremely unlikely that tourists will be banned from buying cannabis.

tASSy · 11-05-2005, 10:14 AM

seems like this scare comes around once a year or so...kind of like the rumour that they were going to up the legal driving age from 16 to 18 when you were in high school, around your sophomore year.

Basic_man · 11-05-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Mental illness among users has rocketed ? and experts warn pot may soon be seen as a hard drug.

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yahhhhhhhhh right ... it causes less damages then alchool

If weed goes as a hard drug, what would be soft drug then ?

directfiesta · 11-05-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

Looks like there won't be no more trips to amsterdam for the purpose of getting stoned...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005510311,00.html

Now. that IS torture

Paul · 11-05-2005, 10:26 AM

I'd like to see those african drug dealers banded from the red lights district, they make the red light district seedy and dangerous. Everyone gets hassled by those motherfuckers every 5 seconds.

I think the dutch government should concentrate on getting the problem with hard drugs controlled before even thinking about cutting off a large tourist income and attraction of theirs

BRISK · 11-05-2005, 10:26 AM

Personally, I go to Amsterdam for the canals and the architecture. It's not like it's the only place in the world where you can smoke weed.

Paul · 11-05-2005, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

Personally, I go to Amsterdam for the canals and the architecture. It's not like it's the only place in the world where you can smoke weed.

Do you enjoy being approached by the drug dealers ? Honestly thats like my one main fault with the place, they are annoying, sometimes aggressive and seem to be everywhere

Doctor Dre · 11-05-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tASSy

seems like this scare comes around once a year or so...kind of like the rumour that they were going to up the legal driving age from 16 to 18 when you were in high school, around your sophomore year.

rofl sooo true ... I remember that one

BRISK · 11-05-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Coatsy

Do you enjoy being approached by the drug dealers ? Honestly thats like my one main fault with the place, they are annoying, sometimes aggressive and seem to be everywhere

I've only been approached by drug dealers while in the RLD, never outside of that area. I just consider it part of what that area is about. I haven't really been approached that many times by them anyways.

Alex · 11-05-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Screaming

You dont have to be a citizen of any country to get an id card do you? You can do that with say a birth cirt and a ss card, or passport?

So, you set up an address there, you take your tourists right to the dmv, or what ever they call it. They all get IDs made with that address and for the weekend, duration of the trip they are from there.

They hand you the IDs at the end of the stay and you can a keep them on file or b destroy them at the travelers request.

Weed smoking tours. All 100% legal, and you are making a nice profit.

All it takes is you buying a decent rental.. Say a B&B.

If you are going to go through all that fucking trouble, you might as wel get the weed in your own state.

The point of this full leagal shit is to cut down on the hassle. For the amount of extra time and money spent now you might as well just do it at home.

webair · 11-05-2005, 11:03 AM

fuck that ill establish residency =))

MetroPornTour · 11-05-2005, 11:04 AM

Now that's going to create a hell of a black market.

Paul · 11-05-2005, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I've only been approached by drug dealers while in the RLD, never outside of that area. I just consider it part of what that area is about. I haven't really been approached that many times by them anyways.

Maybe I was just unlucky

seeric · 11-05-2005, 11:35 AM

instead it will now spawn a huge underground drug trade. good move.

Drake · 11-05-2005, 12:03 PM

Strange policy change... somebody must think it's going to generate a lot of revenue somehow. Black market. Whatever. Money is almost always the motivating factor somewhere along the line.

However, it means very little to those of us that don't smoke pot.

wedouglas · 11-05-2005, 12:27 PM

Pot is unproductive. I haven't smoked in years. Waste of time and money.

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Radiate Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: the center Posts: 1,454	I don't believe the article, the dutch government was talking about this some months ago but from what I heard nothing has come of it yet and almost certainly wont. I wouldn't believe anything the Sun has to say, it's a pile of shite. __________________ icq 199437756 - contact me if you need a solid hosting solution

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Have to love the Sun style of making it sound like it is only going to be against British toursits and then filling the majority of the article full of stock statistics about British drug laws rather than filling it with information on their actual headline. Of course, that would have meant they would of had to interview an actual European.

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bjjb Have laptop will travel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 145201426 Posts: 13,074	Big deal. i know folks in GB wo go thru hundreds of pounds a month selling and smoking. Not like its gonna cut down on the "abuse" already there lol

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Strange policy change... somebody must think it's going to generate a lot of revenue somehow. Black market. Whatever. Money is almost always the motivating factor somewhere along the line. However, it means very little to those of us that don't smoke pot.

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