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effer 10-31-2005 06:47 PM

Im a big advocate of creatine.

If it works for you, and results vary quite a bit, you will gain muscle mass, explosive strength and have quicker recovery times. All that from "water in your muscle cells." Yes, when you come off of it you will gradually lose those quick gains BUT the whole point is you are working out more often and with more weight the whole time you are on it. Those gains don't dissapear overnight.

Do some research then try it.

European Lee 10-31-2005 06:53 PM

Shit, for a second i thought you were talking about Headless but then realized you said 'creatine' not 'cretin' LOL

Regards,

Lee

FlyingIguana 11-01-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquireMD
creatine is great for mass and helps with strength, but some of your mass will be waterweight.....

GNC makes a GREAT tasting fruitpunch powder - creadrive

never buy from GNC, its overpriced even after the membercard discount. shop around.

ultimate nutrition is the creatine i used for years. just chuck it in some grape juice or something.

you'll gain 5 pounds after the loadng phase, you can either do the 20g a day load or just not load(a month for the results). two ways to the same results.

if you wanna gain weight and you're small like me you'll need to eat 20-30g of protein at a min every 3 hours, max 4. metabolism will eat away gains if you go without a constant stream of protein. thats where protein shakes come in, but normally you want to eat higher quality protein from food sources and use the shakes as supplements to that.

if you truely wanna gain mass, don't worry about gaining a small gut, you can always cut later once you reach a higher weight.

ModelPerfect 11-01-2005 02:54 PM

When I was training for fight professionally, I worked out 6 hours every day and had a nutritionist analyze my diet. I was burning over 5,000 calories per day. I couldn't eat enough food. I would eat even in between rounds on the heavy bag. Only after taking creatine could I gain any weight, and even then it was just 6 lbs.

ModelPerfect 11-01-2005 03:00 PM

The only negative things I've heard are it gives some people headaches and can be rough on the stomach. Just make sure you drink lots of water.

BlackCrayon 11-01-2005 03:15 PM

why not just work out and get toned and be happy with what you got. no need to put all this chemical bullshit in your system just for some muscles.

EroticySteve 11-01-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young
Creatine is safe...at least no study has shown otherwise.

it comes down to weather you want to look puffy and watered up. sure you will almost instantly see a size difference in your muscles, but most of that is water in your muscle cells.

Creatine is great for recovery and will help you put on a little size, but most of the size you put on will be water and will be lost right after you stop use.

Cell-Tech will put 15lbs on you in 2 weeks...but I'm not quite sure how much you will retain. Cell-Tech is also over priced. There are good alternatives out there though with a similar sugar content and such.

good luck


Actually a good friend did an extensive study on Creatine while at LSU and would beg to differ with your statement. Many doctors and reasearchers were involved in the study which concluded that creatine isn't all equal and it can have negative effects.

Creatine is a compound created naturally by the body. By overloading on it you can actually shut down the body's ability to produce it naturally.

Icy 11-01-2005 03:27 PM

What do you guys think about excess of proteins? I have heard the could be really bad in the long term for your kidneys and that you can get the gout.

I'm starting to workout again after 5 years not doing it, i'm recovering fast my muscle mass and can lift more and more on each week. My problem is that i'm the kind of guy who gets massive soon, but that has problems getting cut. In the past i used to drink 90% protein mixed with water and that helped to get cut without loosing weight because being on diet/doing cardio, so i'm thinking on buying it again as i can't eat tons of steaks, milk and eggs if i want to get cut, but i'm worried about the secondary effects of it.

je_rome 11-03-2005 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SquireMD
creatine naturally is found in beef, so eating lots of steak is just as good and more natural

yeah, that's true. I think it would be better just to eat beef.

reed_4 11-03-2005 06:03 AM

Sounds good to me, I would go back to the gym and start pulling my muscles once again.

ModelPerfect 11-03-2005 08:43 AM

50 Metrosexuals wanting to bulk up... :)

Screaming 11-03-2005 09:56 AM

Nothing wrong with it. Best of luck.

Gunni 11-03-2005 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdjuf
I dont know if most of you guys know, but I am a tiny guy... I am 5'6 and weigh 130lbs

I recently started working out to gain some mass, not become a bodybuilder, but to have a nice body, become "cut"

The guy who works at the fitness shop next door told me that I need protein and creatine.

What do you guys think of creatine? is it unhealthy in any way? fucks you up at all?

he reffered me to a bottle called "Purple K" creatine.

I appreciate any input! thanx

It doesn't really make you much stronger, and any mass you accumulate will quickly disapear if you take a little brake from training.

Just eat well and train hard, will give you the best result :)
suppliments can affect your body's ability to get the nutritions from natural food (say you always take protein in powder form, in some period of time your body will find it much harder to get protein from dairy). Natural is the way to go :thumbsup

Doctor Dre 11-03-2005 10:14 AM

I'd go with d-balls before creatine ... I'm staying the fuck away from that stuff

Project-Shadow 11-03-2005 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold
you sure 130lbs? sounds a little high.. you're a small guy

At 5'6"?

A safe weight for women:
Small Frame: 120-133
Medium Frame: 130-144
Large Frame: 140-159

For men:
Small Frame: 136-142
Medium Frame: 139-151
Large Frame: 146-164

If anything he needs to put on about 20-30lbs :1orglaugh

Young 11-03-2005 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
I'd go with d-balls before creatine ... I'm staying the fuck away from that stuff

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I would actually do Juice over creatine too.


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