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justsexxx 10-30-2005 03:52 PM

The month was not that bad. HOWEVER, one week in this month was HORRIBLE for me(as affiliate) and they have turned the conversions down a LOT. These are personal stats, not of our program. This also includes programs like hegre etc.

http://www.justsexxx.net/rommel/ccbill.jpg

Andre

justsexxx 10-30-2005 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog
21k a day didn't know ricky martin was still high in demand

It's monthly (I assume)

Nylz 10-30-2005 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
It's monthly (I assume)

per minute stats

aflex 10-30-2005 04:13 PM

solid month for me. i expect it to grow into the winter..

justsexxx 10-30-2005 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nylz
per minute stats


Not bad, I thought you would make tho...Lindsay shops that away per second

Nylz 10-30-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Not bad, I thought you would make tho...Lindsay shops that away per second

heh, that's not my business.. :winkwink:

justsexxx 10-30-2005 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Not bad, I thought you would make tho...Lindsay shops that away per second

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Originally Posted by justsexxx
Not bad, I thought you would make MORE tho...Lindsay shops that away per second

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DWB 10-30-2005 04:21 PM

I have had a bad month.

andrej_NDC 10-30-2005 05:07 PM

overall under 1:1000 ccbill raws...all kind of traffic. even though some days were just shitty, at least 5-6 of them

traffic addict 10-30-2005 05:10 PM

I guess it was a great idea to pay a $100 per signup this month. We got plenty of traffic due to this campaign.

TDF 10-30-2005 05:12 PM

50 bad days...

Furious_Male 10-30-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zprogramz
Our sales are up and traffic we are sending elsewhere is converting the same as always. A few weeks afgo we had a slow week and don;t kn ow why but everything is usually very consistent. As far as scrubbing variations, we only use our own merchant accounts and usually on send traffic to programs with a merchant account as as their primary such as Dating Gold, Eroticy, AFF, LFP and a few others lately.

I noticed Dating Gold doesn't seem to be affected by the slumps I see with other sponsors. I can always count on them to produce a +ROI for me.

What other programs use there own merchant accounts. I am seriously thinking about making some huge changes to my existing line up of sponsors.

andrej_NDC 10-30-2005 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male
What other programs use there own merchant accounts. I am seriously thinking about making some huge changes to my existing line up of sponsors.

no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.

Eservices2k3 10-30-2005 05:25 PM

I send to sponsors that the majority of you have never even heard of. They all have their own merchant accounts, and I can't remember the last time I uttered the word "scrub". Stability is the least of my concerns.

I strongly suggest you all look into something similar.

Eservices2k3 10-30-2005 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.

You have a point, but the truth of the matter is that scrubbing DOES exist and it's a matter of how hard.

If you find the right sponsors with their own merchant account and establish a solid relationship, you will become accustomed to pretty consistent conversions. I speak from experience.

Drake 10-30-2005 05:32 PM

Time to put the kibosh on bad sales

andrej_NDC 10-30-2005 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eservices2k3
You have a point, but the truth of the matter is that scrubbing DOES exist and it's a matter of how hard.

scrubbing does exist, but scrubbing doesnt mean, that some days are 50% worse than the other ones. When people dont want to sign-up, whatever the reason might be, they wont, no matter who does the billing for the site, they just wont.

Furious_Male 10-30-2005 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.

No offense taken. I am simply looking at other avenues to send my traffic to. You never know what might "click" with your traffic.

andrej_NDC 10-30-2005 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male
No offense taken. I am simply looking at other avenues to send my traffic to. You never know what might "click" with your traffic.

sure, testing different sponsors is the key, but dont set the priorities on things like billing, etc...just look for sites with good design, good marketing, good content, thats what matters :)

slapass 10-30-2005 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male
You are not alone. I am comparing historical stats and this week has been bad. Not the worst I have ever seen but bad.

Certain sponsors are not converting at all (mostly paycom processed). CCbill processed sites are just starting to come around a bit the past couple of days.

Im not one to blame someone or anything but I like to speculate there is some heavy scrub going on right now on the paycom side of things.

I would agree with this 100%.

Xplicit 10-30-2005 05:47 PM

I had a great month. Some nice TCG reality site conversions, and AAC is rockin it as always (see sig).

Eservices2k3 10-30-2005 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
scrubbing does exist, but scrubbing doesnt mean, that some days are 50% worse than the other ones. When people dont want to sign-up, whatever the reason might be, they wont, no matter who does the billing for the site, they just wont.

In addition to having their own merchant account, some sponsors I use also use paycom or ccbill. You'd be amazed if you saw the difference in sales from identical sites, and identical traffic....especially this past week. I shit you not, it is in fact 50% WORSE.

Zprogramz 10-30-2005 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
no offence, but merchant accounts mean shit. One of the worst converting sponsors I ever used has its own merchant account. Im not saying, that they didnt convert because of that...Im just saying, that the differences between 3rd party billings and merchant accounts are slim. The same site would make maybe 10% more with less scrubbing. But the paysites out there are not all the same, you have to promote good sites, everything else is not important.

Bullshit! When Netbilling had some downtime last week, the main sponsor that we send exit traffic to, switched to CCbill for several hours and during that time we saw a 30% decrease in signups.

Z

Forkbeard 10-30-2005 06:30 PM

In every thread like this, there's a few assholes who respond with "I'm having my best week ever." This time, it's my turn to be one of those assholes. :winkwink:

Yup, the last two weeks have been my highest-grossing weeks in the biz.

I'll admit that CCbill sales are down a bit, though.

andrej_NDC 10-30-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zprogramz
Bullshit! When Netbilling had some downtime last week, the main sponsor that we send exit traffic to, switched to CCbill for several hours and during that time we saw a 30% decrease in signups.

Z

we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.

Eservices2k3 10-30-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.

I used to do tests like this frequently with sponsors. I send the same traffic to the same site, only difference is 1 is their merchant account, and the other is a 3rd party processor. I'd do tests for 1-2 weeks at a time...and the winner, every time, is my sponsor's merchant account. Usually it's not even close.

At the same time, I used to use some sponsors who had merchant accounts that performed the same as their 3rd party processor. Pick and choose your sponsors wisely and the difference is incredible.

nico-t 10-30-2005 06:57 PM

on the contrary, i think this month is my best month ever :)

QuaWee 10-30-2005 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleHoppes
Glad I got out when I did!

please kill yourself

slapass 10-30-2005 07:06 PM

We all could just admit that ccbill has been scrubbing hard all month and lightened up this week a little and Paycom was scrubbing as hard as hell for the whole week.

abcdwebkate 10-30-2005 07:08 PM

End of the month sales tend to be weaker than sales beginning of the month. How were sales at the beginning of October?

Lee 10-30-2005 07:11 PM

Beginning of the month was fine but this past week has been a national disgrace. I had my worst day in over 2 years yesterday which really summed it up.

Zprogramz 10-30-2005 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC
we all know your stand point to netbilling already...

btw 30% decrease of sign-ups? So you are telling me, that if you get lets say 1000 sales a day, that you get 41 sales per hour and 0.7 sale per minute? This is bullshit! Sign-ups dont come like this, some hours are good some are worse, even different days are different during the day, some days start slow, etc...So a few hours test means shit, tell the sponsor to switch to cbill for 1 month and then talk about the results.

It is just an example. We run our own merchant accounts and use third party as secondary and sometimes run tests with 3rd party as primary and the results are ALWAYS the same. I know what I am talking about.

Z

Furious_Male 10-30-2005 08:12 PM

Well it can be debated but I still would like to try some sites that have there own merchant accounts.

xclusive 10-30-2005 08:50 PM

Been a very slow few weeks for me

Zprogramz 10-30-2005 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male
Well it can be debated but I still would like to try some sites that have there own merchant accounts.

Try Fetishcash, Dating Gold, AFF, Eroticy, Sammysmack, Scorecash. They all do well for us and have their own merchant accounts.

Z

Zprogramz 10-30-2005 09:02 PM

oh - wasteland does well for us too

Z

RogerV 10-30-2005 09:05 PM

Your promoting the wrong sponsors LOL

I had the best week ever No BS

vvq 10-30-2005 09:12 PM

Send Traffic Gigolos some traffic. :thumbsup

tony286 10-30-2005 09:16 PM

The past two months have been weak, when in past years this is when the rise starts. I think gas prices have hurt people and regardless of what the pundits tell you the economy isnt doing that great and the middle class is hurting and thats who buys our wares.

The Sultan Of Smut 10-30-2005 11:06 PM

The last couple of days have picked up but over all my last 2 weeks have been the worst in a couple of years at 1:800. I'm usually 1:350 but I thought it was just me being lazy since I had shoulder surgery and haven't been working for the past 3 weeks. I'm sorta glad to hear it's not just me :(


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