Haven't you folks in your Accords and Camrys heard?

People who drive SUV's operate under the "Big Car Rule".

It's not that were bad drivers, If smaller in size than our SUV, you are subject to "Big Car Rule". We will push our way into lanes, cut you off, and block your view. In an accident.. I will roll through your Toyota like it was a bug on our windshield.

Know the rule. Understand the rule. Head our warning or, in my case, I will stamp GMC into your ass like a cattle brand.

Best Regards

Not true, TaDow ;)

I'm sorry....but what do you know about rain and snow? :winkwink:

Very nice car, Lensman !

I wanna buy this one:

http://www.troller.com.br/images1/foto.jpg

http://www.troller.com.br/detalhes.swf
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Made in Brazil :) About $22k

Jer

actually, it is true..

they are not held up to the same crash accountability as pick-ups ... but rather just as minivans.

in FACT .. they don't even have standards for rollover tests like pickups and cars do they somehow evaded that. think about that the next time you're rolling over at 40 mph. Granted laws of inertia still come into play, but in an SUV/SUV collision, you're pretty much fucked.

as for rain and snow. sorry. it is true. suv's are REAR WHEEL DRIVE. and usually without traction control. which makes them no better than a pickup with sand in them.

their 4 wheel drive is paltry and pathetic. true 4 wheel drive in SUVs exists only on the Land Rover Defender, and the old 4-runners (even the new ones have a dumbed-down version for gas efficiency). So bad is it, that road and track took a bunch of SUVs, dropped them in 8 inches of soft sand, and most of the "automatic" 4 wheel drives didn't even kick in,and those that had manual 4 wheel drive just dug themselves in further because the front wheel drive only has one working wheel hope this helps for the next time you hit a patch of black ice .. happy sailing :-)

for rain and snow .. front wheel drive with traction control is the way to go, or some systems such as 4-motion and quattro are great, BECAUSE they depend FIRST on front wheel drive.

Actually .. .the Jeep Cherokee's 4 wheel drive seems to work well too I've heard .. so add that to the list =)

hmm.. and I can't really put the RR defender in that argument, because it's not quite an SUV, but I haven't heard happy things about other RR's lately

don't get me wrong.. rear wheel drive is the way to go on sports cars :)

I love my GTI, but it still doesn't have the snap of a rear wheel .. (course.. don't know how the fuck I'm going to get the M3 up to the mountain in December... that'll be another long list of exciting threads)

Why settle for less? Snow? Ice? Too many limitations with 4WD, really. Great in peak hour traffic too!


http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/ash/1220/0db1cf60.jpg

new ferrari SUV? :1orglaugh
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Sorry Tadow you aren't going to convince me, basically because I've driven both in all kinds of conditions -- even tho Elvis thinks I've always lived in Arizona ;)

I've driven in over a foot of snow in both an SUV and a truck and they go quite well. Both vehicles had (I should say have, the truck is in my driveway right now, tho I can't find the key lol) a 3.73 rear end with limited slip so neither of them actually needed 4wd to move either... My ex also had a true rwd truck so I can make the comparison. I've never had a problem with all 4 wheels kicking in on 4wd either.

As to the rollover, well the truck sticks to the road like glue, the only thing about the Expeditions is that when you go to the 17" wheels, you do put yourself higher up in the air and may indeed be more likely to roll or have issues if you get caught in a crosswind (that's an Arizona thing Elvis ;P )...

Now moving on to the accident factor. Show me a car that's going to stand up to a big vehicle... there aren't many, some Mercs maybe a Volvo, but not much more. A couple of years ago I had a wreck (same truck too) and I've seen the damage to both vehicles from it. Give me the truck or the SUV any day.

Of course my opinions are specifically about big vehicles -- Expedition, Tahoe, Suburban, full size trucks, etc. Looking at some of the smaller SUV models, even I do wonder if they are very safe...

I agree with TaDow (mostly)... People with SUVs are asshole who think they drive a tank...

I KNOW you would plow through my Jetta with you RR or what not, its not reason to cut me off or to talk on your cell phone while looking at the pretty colors around you...

I dont want to die because you need to feel superior...






On the topic of cars, I would sell my soul for a porsche 911 GT2... now that's style :)

You don't need to die if you can avoid us.

Is that the brand new one? They had one of those at the dealership I got mine from... nice ride, but a lot of fucking money :)

"SUVs are not safer than cars"

The G500 weighs 5900 lbs. empty, there aren't many passenger vehicles that can stand up to that.

I'm usually a lurker on the boards here but car topics will usually get me to post :)

I was thinking of getting a new G 500 Lens, how are you liking yours? Its a unique looking SUV and I've sat in one and the interior is very plush! Very similar to my AMG ML 55. Haven't drove one yet...

I registered the domain marcscars.com to display my car collection. Right now I have:

? 2002 ML 55
? 2001 BMW X5 4.4i
? 2002 Cadillac Escalade
? 2002 BMW M5
? 2001 BMW Z8
? 2001 Mercedes S 500
? 1967 Shelby GT 500
? 2002 Mercedes C 32 (Vegas Car)
? 2002 Mercedes CLK 430 (Vegas Car)

If I have one fetish its CARS! :) Obviously...

Marc, I also have a 2002 ML500, the G500 is totally different. Even the navigation system is totally different.

Marc, I beg you on my dirty knees - POST PICTURES OF THE M5 !!!!


Pleeeease :waaaaahh

Man! I am waiting for everyone to whip out a picture of there cocks so they can compare them!!!



:thumbsup

Great post!!!

oh and one or two pic of the Shelby would be highly appreciated :winkwink:

I agree with everything you have just said ... and I sold my soul a long time ago .. the porsche still isn't here..

Lens - The biggest problem I have is deciding which car to get rid of and getting past Heather. She can't STAND the way it looks, but I think its classy hehe

If you had to choose, the G or the M? Which would it be...

Its simple the CADILAC ESCALADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aint nothing gonna kick its ass

As I said before. Newton's second law STILL applies.

as for cars who will stand up to the impact? why the fuck you think I'm buying a BMW ... LIke I said too many dipshit socccer moms.

and check your records volvo is no longer the safest on the road. VW and BMW have surpassed them. :-)

and lastly I would like to state that if you spend $40k, $50k, or $70k on an SUV you had better fuck that thing up just as hard as if you buy a 1978 Chevy Blazer .. because that's what they are meant for .. to be fucked up. Personally, I don't think you'll ever find me trashing a $50k vehicle intentionally, unless I buy a hummer .. then i plan on trashing the shit out of that.

okay, one last thing:

YOU ARE NOT COMPACT CARS SO STOP PARKING IN THOSE SPOTS!!!

Marc De, I'm rubbing my knees bloody !!!!

me too, I would really like to see that M5 ...

I'll rub something else bloody..

Let me round up some pics of the cars. I might have to get out the digital camera and post them on my site in temporarily :)

...that I will do AFTER I see the M5 :thumbsup

Ahhh great ! Can't wait to see the puppies !!! :glugglug

*POP!*

there went the cap to my motion lotion...

I started rubbing a while ago...

Figure out what?! :Kissmy
Who's that boneprone anyway?
:1orglaugh

No doubt the G, it makes more of a statement. Although I put upgraded wheels/tires, MB fender flares and MB illuminated running boards, and rear spoiler. The grill protector for the 2002 isn't out yet.

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:Graucho

'xcuse my 1337ness, but I recently discovered this page and feel like abusing it :thumbsup

Wizzo that looks like a Navigator.. I remember when Tanker broke the back latch handle on your navi... LOL

I'm a SUV freak myself! Sorry for the bad pics, just went out and snapped these and it's night here...

My Navi and the X5 I just bought for my girlfriend:

http://www.adultwebmasterschool.com/cars/Dsc00205.jpg



My new G500 and Jag XKR convertible (I keep the good stuff inside the garage):

http://www.adultwebmasterschool.com/cars/Dsc00206.jpg


I should say "thanks" to MarcDe -- ARS was largely responsible for these lol. M5 -- that's one of my favorites.

heres my baby

http://www.ultimatepleasuresonline.c...k2/durango.jpg

bump - Marc De, where the cars at ? :winkwink:

Tadow....I have a Land Rover Defender....but I do believe lensman's G500 has the same all time 4 wheel drive thing going on as well.....and then some

both can kick the shit outta a hummer though....I can smoke the tires (in full time 4x4) jumpin outta first (costs $15 bucks mind you LOL)

Lensman are you ever gonna take that thing offroad...there are a few guys in cali that have a club I know of.....just for G-Wagons...

and to boot my wife loves the thing.....

Oh yeah .. hummer is slow as shit ... but these things aren't meant for racing are they?

Defender is fuckin awesome =) if I ever buy a little cabana in mexico I'm getting one of those .. I don't really consider them an SUV so I don't get frantic and angry when I see folks driving em =)

G500 I'm sure is pretty cool ... I just want to make sure to see some fuckin scratches and dings on it, ya know? if you want a car to baby, for god's sake wtf are you doing with an SUV .. the first two letters in the acronym suggest it's a vehicle meant for ripping on.

shatttttttttttttt upppppppppppp... I have 5 grand worth of fat wheel and tire on my navi with upgraded shocks and stabilizers..It doesnt ROLL for shit and for a huge vehicle handles fantastic....People stay the fuck away from me and I like it that way. I have driven 4x4's my whole life...I'm not the guy who drops 50k on a Landcruiser and never touch the dirt..So be quiet unless you know what your talkiing about..Who wants to be lowered to the ground with the front seat pushed to the back looking like a dweeb with boom boom music that has absolutely no logic of what real music is.. Damm i'm getting old...:)

The only thing about the G500 or a big Navi for that matter is I would definitely have a hard time puttin by muddy mountain bike and stinky ass rottie inside.....and the defender seats 11...I am going to montreal in two weeks to chill with the Gamma Crew...and we be travelling all 10 of us in the defender....all extras go on the safari rack above...:thumbsup

Yeah I just bought a brand new Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited Edition all-time 4x4 :thumbsup

Ill get a pic up soon ;)

I'd like to see you pull a .93g on the skidpad.... stock. that's what the new M3 pulls

You could make a fucking semi truck outhandle a porsche with the right equipment... =P drop that same cash into upgrading the stuff on a sports car or sedan or whatnot ... goodbye SUV

if my fucking name would come up on the god damned waiting list..

how does the defender seat 11?!?! it's the size of a jeep =P

http://www.backcountrytrailers.com/T...ers/rovers.jpg

The roof rack looks like it can hold 5, the trailer can stuff about 3 people in there, so that leaves 3 in the cab :Graucho

ahh, but did he not say 11 people IN it? ;-)

just being a little shit. hehe.

naw, I dig the defender, it's a cool rig, too bad they discontinued it :-(

kiddies kiddies...I have a defender 110

defender 90's are easy to find...

here is what I have

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/110work.html