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Alex From San Diego 10-29-2005 11:51 AM

It's all about marketing. Why do most affiliate programs say they have the most unique program out there and then when you go to check them out, they are exactly the same as the thousands out there?

Who really cares anyway? If you think the stats are fake, then they are fake IYO but for everyone person who think stats are faked here on GFY, there is one who will believe it and check the program out. No harm, no foul :)

sumphatpimp 10-29-2005 12:02 PM

because photoshop makes it possible and their is always a stupid noob to believe it.

tranza 10-29-2005 12:13 PM

Because newbies will buy it.

pornguy 10-29-2005 12:19 PM

I can convert your traffic at 1:3. No shit.




























hehehhe

John Marco 10-29-2005 12:40 PM

I believe the problem programs have is that affiliates sometimes don't grasp that different traffic sources have vastly different ratios. It is very hard from a program's perspective to answer the question "What are your ratios?" There are just too many factors to give an accurate answer and also too many to believe the answer given. Some factors are:

1. Traffic sources
2. Marketing Methods
3. Promotional Material used
4. Time of day most sales occur
5. A lot of other minute factors -- and also, programs themselves can't get a good indication unless they are looking at figures for 100's of sales.

The problem programs run into is that they have to paint a picture of a better 'conversion ratio' because that is what other programs do. Also, getting on boards boasting of success becomes self-fulfilling. "Oh, that program gets 1000 joins/day. They must be stable and convert well if they are getting that much traffic. I should try them!"

At the end of the day, all that should really matter to affiliates is how much money a program earns them. Choose who you promote based on quality of sites and your earning results. Also, don't send 500 clicks to a program and expect to get 3 sales right away. You have to send 10k's of clicks before you can figure out a real ratio because it is random.

detoxed 10-29-2005 12:43 PM

Well who posts fake stats? Name some names or stop wasting our time.

detoxed 10-29-2005 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Marco
I believe the problem programs have is that affiliates sometimes don't grasp that different traffic sources have vastly different ratios. It is very hard from a program's perspective to answer the question "What are your ratios?" There are just too many factors to give an accurate answer and also too many to believe the answer given. Some factors are:

1. Traffic sources
2. Marketing Methods
3. Promotional Material used
4. Time of day most sales occur
5. A lot of other minute factors -- and also, programs themselves can't get a good indication unless they are looking at figures for 100's of sales.

The problem programs run into is that they have to paint a picture of a better 'conversion ratio' because that is what other programs do. Also, getting on boards boasting of success becomes self-fulfilling. "Oh, that program gets 1000 joins/day. They must be stable and convert well if they are getting that much traffic. I should try them!"

At the end of the day, all that should really matter to affiliates is how much money a program earns them. Choose who you promote based on quality of sites and your earning results. Also, don't send 500 clicks to a program and expect to get 3 sales right away. You have to send 10k's of clicks before you can figure out a real ratio because it is random.

good post. people should also know their traffic well enough to guess conversions pretty closely before even sending trafic. guess that takes some time though.

BlackCrayon 10-29-2005 12:45 PM

Programs Who Post Fake Stats Just Prove How Dishonest They Are And Probably Are Being On Their Backend...

quantum-x 10-29-2005 12:52 PM

1:3? Maybe not that good, but that type of thing is completely possible.

Pimproll
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/prs.jpg

or

BangBros.
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/bbs.gif

No photoshop.
Not join page hits.

jaYMan 10-29-2005 12:56 PM

dont you think one of the sponsors being quoted would look and match and call bullshit?

those are real deal ;)

Qx kicks ass.

QuaWee 10-29-2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x
1:3? Maybe not that good, but that type of thing is completely possible.

Pimproll
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/prs.jpg

or

BangBros.
http://www.ninjito.com/dump/bbs.gif

No photoshop.
Not join page hits.

nice stats man :thumbsup

btw, take that woj! :winkwink:

Ice 10-29-2005 12:57 PM

51 fake stats

andrej_NDC 10-29-2005 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex From San Diego
It's all about marketing. Why do most affiliate programs say they have the most unique program out there and then when you go to check them out, they are exactly the same as the thousands out there?

thats just one point of view, everybody thinks he has the best and most unique program, that isnt lying, posting fake stats is


mmmm, do you think Im talking about you? why is that? :glugglug

psili 10-29-2005 01:03 PM

Stats, like accounting numbers, like reality and everything else; completely made up and are only "real" enough by how many people believe in their validity.

If you can't account for your own traffic, where it goes and how much the destination of that traffic monetizes for you, it's your fault.

You send traffic to programs who lie to you; your fault.

They all do.

$.000002

QuaWee 10-29-2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceicebaby
51 fake stats

too slow :winkwink:


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