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DeanCapture 10-25-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
Get a grip, you will learn nothing about photography on GFY. spend some more time with your camera.

Wrong! I have taught people here some stuff about photograhy....and I have learned from others as well. I don't think GFY is an ideal environment to learn about photography because of some of the idiots who post here but it can be done.

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x
Not everyone here is an asshole as you seem to infer!

a quick english lesson. You would infer that and I would imply that. Howerver I was not doing any implying. I was just giving some sound recommendations for the question asked.

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Wrong! I have taught people here some stuff about photograhy....and I have learned from others as well. I don't think GFY is an ideal environment to learn about photography because of some of the idiots who post here but it can be done.

sorry, didn't mean to hurt any feelings or anything. I just wanted to give my opinion on time well spent.

AaronM 10-25-2005 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Wrong! I have taught people here some stuff about photograhy....and I have learned from others as well. I don't think GFY is an ideal environment to learn about photography because of some of the idiots who post here but it can be done.


Damn.

OK, I'll leave now. :sadcrying

Expo_Vids 10-25-2005 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
a quick english lesson. You would infer that and I would imply that. Howerver I was not doing any implying. I was just giving some sound recommendations for the question asked.


Yes, I am spending time with my camera. In fact I am spending an entire day with my camera on Tuesday. I just thought it would be nice to start a thread where people can share ideas instead of another "would you hit it thread" or some stupid thread about "racism" or "drama" or any other of the stupid threads that pollute this board on a daily basis.

Why starting a simple thread about the technical aspects of photography would anger certain people so much is beyond me.

If you are a good photographer then perhaps posting positive replies in this thread will help you land a new client. Just a thought. :winkwink:

quantum-x 10-25-2005 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
seems like you learned a lot from this. I guess you can RTFM but the best way to figure out what works for you and what doesn't is to just go try it. In this millenium digital can help you teach yourself really fast. Jesus if I had that back when I was learning. Holy shit! You can learn more in an hour than in 10 years.
Was it my notes that were wrong, was it my developing, did I not print the same way, was I consistant.
Get a grip, you will learn nothing about photography on GFY. spend some more time with your camera.

Quick english lesson, if you're going to play it that way.

seems like you learned a lot from this. I guess you can RTFM, but the best way to figure out what works for you and what doesn't is to just go try it. In this millenium, digital can help you teach yourself really quickly. Jesus, if I had that back when I was learning.[Broken sentance] Holy shit! You can learn more in an hour than in 10 years.
Was it my notes that were wrong, was it my developing, did I not print the same way, was I consistant.
Get a grip, you will learn nothing about photography on GFY. spend some more time with your camera.

Infer is sometimes confused with imply, but the distinction is a useful one. When we say that a speaker or sentence implies something, we mean that it is conveyed or suggested without being stated outright: When the mayor said that she would not rule out a business tax increase, she implied (not inferred) that some taxes might be raised. Inference, on the other hand, is the activity performed by a reader or interpreter in drawing conclusions that are not explicit in what is said: When the mayor said that she would not rule out a tax increase, we inferred that she had been consulting with some new financial advisers, since her old advisers were in favor of tax reductions.


I meant infer.

Must you be so fucking petty? If you're wanting to play english cop, bugger off. I'm trying to help someone, I don't need you to be a twit.

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Expo_Vids
Yes, I am spending time with my camera. In fact I am spending an entire day with my camera on Tuesday. I just thought it would be nice to start a thread where people can share ideas instead of another "would you hit it thread" or some stupid thread about "racism" or "drama" or any other of the stupid threads that pollute this board on a daily basis.

Why starting a simple thread about the technical aspects of photography would anger certain people so much is beyond me.

If you are a good photographer then perhaps posting positive replies in this thread will help you land a new client. Just a thought. :winkwink:

How about spending time with it before the big shoot. Have you figured out the answer to the original question for yourself? Have you actually tested? There is no magic answer. If you have a specific problem I would be more than glad to help.

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quantum-x 10-25-2005 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM
Damn.

OK, I'll leave now. :sadcrying

Seems like you're not allowed here if you're helpful or an english professor!

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Expo_Vids
Yes, I am spending time with my camera. In fact I am spending an entire day with my camera on Tuesday. I just thought it would be nice to start a thread where people can share ideas instead of another "would you hit it thread" or some stupid thread about "racism" or "drama" or any other of the stupid threads that pollute this board on a daily basis.

Why starting a simple thread about the technical aspects of photography would anger certain people so much is beyond me.

If you are a good photographer then perhaps posting positive replies in this thread will help you land a new client. Just a thought. :winkwink:

broken sentance:
and I don't need to be a target. I was not trying to do harm. Just giving a sound recommendation.

woj 10-25-2005 11:50 PM

50......,.... :arcadefre

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x
Seems like you're not allowed here if you're helpful or an english professor!

:1orglaugh

stevo 10-25-2005 11:54 PM

How does Noise Ninja compare to basic Photoshop noise/despeckle?

babz4u 10-25-2005 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevo
How does Noise Ninja compare to basic Photoshop noise/despeckle?

Far better, Dfine products are good as well.

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x
Seems like you're not allowed here if you're helpful or an english professor!

Everybody is allowed here.... :thumbsup

I find it interesting that Expo comes here and asks a simple question about photography and some of the people who could help him would rather talk down to him like he's a fucking idiot. Expo just spent a few days working with me in LA to help me hone my videography skills. When it comes to videography the boy knows his shit. But he's new to shooting pictures and that's why he's asking for advice from shooters here. Jesus fucking christ :mad:

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by stevo
How does Noise Ninja compare to basic Photoshop noise/despeckle?

I don't know Stevo... I never compared the two. You can download their free trial and test it out for yourself. I've been very happy with it as has some of my buds who use it.

babz4u 10-26-2005 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Everybody is allowed here.... :thumbsup

I find it interesting that Expo comes here and asks a simple question about photography and some of the people who could help him would rather talk down to him like he's a fucking idiot. Expo just spent a few days working with me in LA to help me hone my videography skills. When it comes to videography the boy knows his shit. But he's new to shooting pictures and that's why he's asking for advice from shooters here. Jesus fucking christ :mad:

:mad: :mad: :mad:

I don't think anyone is talking down to him. if you are such a great mentor then why would he be asking such questions?
Is this thread bait to get a bunch of photographers to argrue about nitty gritty bullshit?

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
:mad: :mad: :mad:
if you are such a great mentor then why would he be asking such questions?
Is this thread bait to get a bunch of photographers to argrue about nitty gritty bullshit?

I never said anything about me being a great mentor?? What the hell are you talking about?

babz4u 10-26-2005 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
I never said anything about me being a great mentor?? What the hell are you talking about?

Sorry I assumed that you are a photographer and spent the day with him. I also assumed that he had some good info for you about video. Then I assumed that this general question could have been answered quickly by you. Then I assumed that this thread was just to get photographers to argue about rediculous details about equipment and styles, etc.

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
Sorry I assumed that you are a photographer and spent the day with him. I also assumed that he had some good info for you about video. Then I assumed that this general question could have been answered quickly by you. Then I assumed that this thread was just to get photographers to argue about rediculous details about equipment and styles, etc.

Sorry my friend....you assumed way too much. I did indeed spend the day with him...and I did answer some photography related questions for him. Apparently he still has some questions and was hoping that some of the good folks here could help him out....and although some were less helpful then they could have been, some were nice enough to offer some advice. Is there anything else that you assumed that I can set straight for you? :thumbsup

babz4u 10-26-2005 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Sorry my friend....you assumed way too much. I did indeed spend the day with him...and I did answer some photography related questions for him. Apparently he still has some questions and was hoping that some of the good folks here could help him out....and although some were less helpful then they could have been, some were nice enough to offer some advice. Is there anything else that you assumed that I can set straight for you? :thumbsup

I gave my best advice on a very general question. Do you think that it was wrong?

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
I gave my best advice on a very general question. Do you think that it was wrong?

Your best advice was telling Expo that he can't learn anything about photography on GFY and to spend more time with his camera? I'm sure that helped him out a lot :thumbsup

SeniorX 10-26-2005 12:40 AM

tip: if you have a cat or dog, they'd make excellent practice models for trying to figure out the best settings for shooting at various light conditions - they're always moving around, just like human models.

tip 2: it takes a lot less time figuring out the best settings yourself with digi cameras than asking about it on gfy. just shoot, change iso, shoot change iso, etc. etc. ...then compare the shots and make notes. picture is worth a thousand words.

tip 3: you can read all you want about the basics and photography tips, but in the end, everybody has their unique shooting style.

babz4u 10-26-2005 12:48 AM

Hey what are the best settings to use with light coming through a window and should I use IS? I think spending some time with his camera was good advice. If he has a specific problem I would be more than willing to help. So what is your answer to his question?

stevo 10-26-2005 12:59 AM

Is there any downfall to using IS? People keep mentioning if they should use it or not in this thread...

subVERSION 10-26-2005 01:01 AM

great thread!

babz4u 10-26-2005 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stevo
Is there any downfall to using IS? People keep mentioning if they should use it or not in this thread...

There is no magic answer. IS will get you about 1-2 stops steadier than you are without. If you can shoot at 1/60 with a 50mm lens then it might let you shoot at 1/30 or 1/15 with the same results.
Why don't you just try it and see how it works for you?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2005 01:10 AM

Yeah I figured somthing out:)

That Ninja shit rocks.
Just got it.

babz4u 10-26-2005 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Yeah I figured somthing out:)

That Ninja shit rocks.
Just got it.

Please expain
(intentional missspelllling)

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Yeah I figured somthing out:)

That Ninja shit rocks.
Just got it.

Glad I could help you out with that little jewel Mark. I have a lot of cool little secrets like that. If you weren't such an asshole to me everytime you open your mouth, I might actually entertain the though of sharing some of that with you. Of course you could never learn anything from me huh? :disgust

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2005 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
Glad I could help you out with that little jewel Mark. I have a lot of cool little secrets like that. If you weren't such an asshole to me everytime you open your mouth, I might actually entertain the though of sharing some of that with you. Of course you could never learn anything from me huh? :disgust

Well if ya were not an asshole everytime you openned up you're mouth to and about others, then I would actually entertain not getting on you're case at all.

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
Well if ya were not an asshole everytime you openned up you're mouth to and about others, then I would actually entertain not getting on you're case at all.

What I say to and about others has nothing to do with you Marky. Why do you insist on sticking your nose in everybody elses business? Do you actually think anybody here needs you to protect them? :1orglaugh

If I have something to say to you Mark I'll fucking say it. And unlike you, I'll say it here "and" to your face. You (my little keyboard warrior friend) don't mind calling people names on this board but when confronted with the opportunity to say it to their face, you run like the little pussy that you are. Yea, people really need someone like you to protect them from the big bad Dean Capture :1orglaugh

Have fun my friend....protecting everybody from the big bad Dean Capture :1orglaugh

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-26-2005 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
What I say to and about others has nothing to do with you Marky. Why do you insist on sticking your nose in everybody elses business? Do you actually think anybody here needs you to protect them? :1orglaugh

If I have something to say to you Mark I'll fucking say it. And unlike you, I'll say it here "and" to your face. You (my little keyboard warrior friend) don't mind calling people names on this board but when confronted with the opportunity to say it to their face, you run like the little pussy that you are. Yea, people really need someone like you to protect them from the big bad Dean Capture :1orglaugh

Have fun my friend....protecting everybody from the big bad Dean Capture :1orglaugh


I will say it to you're face to man, again stop trying to figure me out or thinking I am one way or another.

You wont.

Some of the best folks in the biz try and figure out why I do what I do or how I will do somthing or whatever. Dude, just forget about it.
It is of no benefit to you, and none of it will concern you. You make mistakes on the net and I am trying to help you. Ya can hate me now but soon you will love me, and I am cool with that.

FelixFlow 10-26-2005 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Expo_Vids
I am using soft boxes. But I want to explore the idea of using no flash. I see that some photogs don't ever use flash and I think the look of their photos can be extremely erotic.



i'm trying to get more & more away from flash...or at least noticeable flash :)


the fundamentals of photography would have you use a flash so that you have enough light to shoot with a low iso, small aperature, and fast shutter - giving you an evenly lit, well exposed, tack-sharp photo.

problem is, that look (the common porn lighting of "2 strobes in umbrellas, flat light") is pretty boring

the model DOES NOT have to be super sharp in-focus from her head to toe...you want to make your pics intimate and recreate a real world fantasy: when the eyeball notices a woman in real life, your focus is only on the part you're looking at (be it her face, her breasts, her ass, etc) and the rest of her body is "blurred" by a falloff into the peripheral vision - shoot to duplicate that :winkwink:


anyway back on topic, i faced a lowlight situation over this weekend during my shoot...




i tried to make it look "natural" and bring a soft, dreamy feel to the photos...i didnt want to go below f/4 and shoot slower than 1/80, so i had to provide just a TOUCH of fill from a 48" softbox




(canon 20d; canon 24-70 2.8 "L"; iso 800; f4; 1/80)



http://www.karisweets.com/boards/gfy/hi.jpg


:)

babz4u 10-26-2005 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlow
i'm trying to get more & more away from flash...or at least noticeable flash :)


the fundamentals of photography would have you use a flash so that you have enough light to shoot with a low iso, small aperature, and fast shutter - giving you an evenly lit, well exposed, tack-sharp photo.

problem is, that look (the common porn lighting of "2 strobes in umbrellas, flat light") is pretty boring

the model DOES NOT have to be super sharp in-focus from her head to toe...you want to make your pics intimate and recreate a real world fantasy: when the eyeball notices a woman in real life, your focus is only on the part you're looking at (be it her face, her breasts, her ass, etc) and the rest of her body is "blurred" by a falloff into the peripheral vision - shoot to duplicate that :winkwink:


anyway back on topic, i faced a lowlight situation over this weekend during my shoot...




i tried to make it look "natural" and bring a soft, dreamy feel to the photos...i didnt want to go below f/4 and shoot slower than 1/80, so i had to provide just a TOUCH of fill from a 48" softbox




(canon 20d; canon 24-70 2.8 "L"; iso 800; f4; 1/80)



http://www.karisweets.com/boards/gfy/hi.jpg


:)

Good job. watch out for your perspective and framing. If you are going to be so close then make sure it counts. What exactly are you trying to highlight? The face? Have an idea about what you are trying to do.


Just want to get this thread on the track

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
You make mistakes on the net and I am trying to help you. Ya can hate me now but soon you will love me, and I am cool with that.

Mark....I don't need you to point out any mistakes that I make. Why don't you do that for someone who appreciates your help? If you want to help me..."and yourself"....keep your nose out of my business and don't say shit to me anymore about anything.

I don't know what kind of mental issues that you have bro' but you need to get that shit looked at. I make frequent trips to your neighborhood on a regular basis and I'll be glad to knock on your door and have a little face-to-face chat with you about whatever your problem is with me and we'll see if we can't figure out how to work this thing out. Sticking your nose where it doesn't belong is not going to resolve any issues that you have with me and in fact...will just make things worse. If you have a problem with me, with something I've said or something I've done, you contact me and discuss it with me. You can reach me via my website. Otherwise, I can guarantee you things will get ugly bro'.....very very ugly :thumbsup

Peace out -

FelixFlow 10-26-2005 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by babz4u
Good job. watch out for your perspective and framing. If you are going to be so close then make sure it counts. What exactly are you trying to highlight? The face? Have an idea about what you are trying to do.


Just want to get this thread on the track




actually, this was only 1 of 6 shots taken, so that i can examine the photos (for grain, composition, exposure, etc), take notes & be ready to do this set for real during the next shoot


save your photo advice buddy, i dont need it, lol :1orglaugh

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlow

Nice Pic Felix :thumbsup

DeanCapture 10-26-2005 03:00 AM

Actually Mark, I've just added you to my ignore list. I should have thought of that sooner.

Bye-bye moron :action-sm

Cory W 10-26-2005 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ
I will say it to you're face to man, again stop trying to figure me out or thinking I am one way or another.

You wont.

Some of the best folks in the biz try and figure out why I do what I do or how I will do somthing or whatever. Dude, just forget about it.
It is of no benefit to you, and none of it will concern you. You make mistakes on the net and I am trying to help you. Ya can hate me now but soon you will love me, and I am cool with that.

You and Dean are both good guys, you should try to get along!

As for the IS on a tripod, is there a different mode for it? I thought you couldn't do that?

I have the 70-200 F 2.8, but I got it without IS so I really don't know. I have never felt I needed the stabilization on that lense. However I am sure there are a lot of things I could do with IS that I just don't know about yet.


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