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quiet 03-09-2002 03:18 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

yeah...... I know.. I've been round and round on this problem... I finally gave up.... the only thing you can really do, is to use a script that changes the file names and urls every so often. htaccess is shit for protecting vids.
us too. been around this problem a hundred times. still haven't found a good solution, other than changing file names.

Martin 03-09-2002 09:44 AM
I tell ya what you do... My way makes you $$$ Change the name of your movies in ftp.. Use a find and replace software and change your html on all your pages. Then upload the new html. Then use a .htaccess file to bouce those hot linking scum fuck bags to hell.... :evil-laug

Amputate Your Head 03-09-2002 09:46 AM
unless of course you have over 1000 movies to change the names of.

Sleepy 03-09-2002 09:49 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by jorgie99
Whoa 38 posts!

When it comes to bandwidth sucking whores we certainly rally together don't we :thumbsup

I see you are all back to the same conclusions I have already drawn :)

The only possible way to combat this is changing the location.

Sleepy: About the php script idea - what would the link to the mpeg look like? Would it change also or just internally?

Would tgp's accept this? Would TGP software like Brownie accept this?
:cool-as-a
Our script just creates a new html page every 30 minutes with a new symbolic link pointing to the video. The video is never altered or changed.

Martin 03-09-2002 09:52 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
unless of course you have over 1000 movies to change the names of.
1000 movies.. Who has 1000 movies?:)

jorgie99 03-09-2002 02:50 PM
You CAN'T change the html on a movie gallery or any tgp gallery for that matter...

that is the whole point... it is easy to find what is being hotlinked and simply change your galleries/path - but that gets you blacklisted... or at least that is what I am assuming - I know a lot of the big tgp's have scripts that check their galleries for altered HTML...

What we need is a script that has a link (php or whatever) tht never changes... so http://www.blah.com/dsafds$2d.php or whatever I don't know php myself... and then try and make it so that link MUST be clicked on from a certain domain - yours.

If it is pasted into a browser it won't work and if you right-click and try and save as from a different domain it won;t work etiher = I don't know if this is possible...

Also I have seen inside some paysites that have mpegs available for download and it seems they use php - if you paste those urls into a browser it doesn't work and if you hotlink to them they don't work either - left or right click - but is this working only because you have LOGIN first then they work?

Can this be done without having someone login?

That would be the solution. Or send them a cookie or use some kind of something in the HTML to only allow access from your domain etc.

CamRabbit 03-09-2002 03:14 PM
Why not to place links on your tgp galleries to pages with embedded Windows Media Player and encode movies with Windows Media 8 Encoding Utility instead of mpeg files? You can use htaccess protection based on HTTP_REFERER or any other you want :thumbsup

jorgie99 03-10-2002 12:38 AM
because the tgp owners want mpegs that their surfers can download and save.

I am starting to think there is no way possible to do this :(

cgiGeek 10-01-2002 11:27 AM
I need some cash, so I can fix that for you for $50.
Would have done it for free, but need money sorry.

Snake Doctor 10-01-2002 11:39 AM
What about linking the movie thumbs on the gallery to an html page and having the movie file embedded in the html page.
Wouldn't htaccess work then?

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Quote:
Originally posted by jorgie99
Hey everyone...

How do you deal/prevent with hotlinkers that either make links to your mpegs so surfers can right-click and "save as" or have the text ready to cut and paste for the srufers?

Is there a technological solution other than renaming the files and altering the gallery HTML? (Don't want to get blacklisted for changing HTML)

Damn asian sites are killing me... :ak47:

HELP!

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fiveyes 10-01-2002 02:20 PM
The solution is really quite easy on Linux/Apache.

First, check out http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod....html#setenvif and the following entry for SetEnvIfNoCase to follow this solution.

You'll need the SetEnvIf module installed, which is usually the case. If you're running Apache 1.3.13 and later, you can add this to a ".htaccess" file at the top of the directory tree you wish to protect. Otherwise, you have to add it to the apache configuration file within a virtual host and/or directory directive.

The code is simply (replace "YourDomain.com" and "###.###.###.###" appropriately):
Code:
SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "^http://(YourDomain.com|www.YourDomain.com|###.###.###.###)" local_req=1
&lt;FilesMatch "\.(gif|jpe?g|mpe?g\avi\wmv)$">
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from env=local_req
&lt;/FilesMatch>

BR Guy 10-01-2002 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by freeones I haven't looked any further yet, but I think that the only solution will be to use a cgi script. And then one in such a way that nobody can detect the place of your movie files. Or you can rename your mpg files to wmv that will still work for the time being, but then visitors need to rename the files which is not very handy.

Long story and all because those hotlinking monkeys !
Let me know if you already have found a good solution.
i've a php script to protect hotlink, it worked fine in my tests.
It's free but it needs optimizations.
link: http://www.brguy.com/ahls/

Backov 10-01-2002 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by fiveyes
The solution is really quite easy on Linux/Apache.

First, check out http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod....html#setenvif and the following entry for SetEnvIfNoCase to follow this solution.

You'll need the SetEnvIf module installed, which is usually the case. If you're running Apache 1.3.13 and later, you can add this to a ".htaccess" file at the top of the directory tree you wish to protect. Otherwise, you have to add it to the apache configuration file within a virtual host and/or directory directive.

The code is simply (replace "YourDomain.com" and "###.###.###.###" appropriately):
Code:
SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "^http://(YourDomain.com|www.YourDomain.com|###.###.###.###)" local_req=1
&lt;FilesMatch "\.(gif|jpe?g|mpe?g\avi\wmv)$">
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from env=local_req
&lt;/FilesMatch>
That's essentially exactly the same as using mod_rewrite.. Since the player doesn't pass a referrer, this won't help you.

Cheers,
Backov

Jizar II 10-01-2002 04:27 PM
very interesting thread, i´m also sitting here waiting for the perfect solution! :Graucho

fiveyes 10-01-2002 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by fiveyes
Code:
SetEnvIfNoCase Referer "^http://(YourDomain.com|www.YourDomain.com|###.###.###.###)" local_req=1
&lt;FilesMatch "\.(gif|jpe?g|mpe?g\avi\wmv)$">
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from env=local_req
&lt;/FilesMatch>
Nope, my bad! Windows Media Player doesn't send the referer for WMV files, ever. It does follow the htaccess authorization requirements, so "*.wmv" files need to be within a members prorected directory to prevent hotlinking.

Make "\.(gif|jpe?g|mpe?g\avi\wmv)$" to read "\.(gif|jpe?g|mpe?g|avi)$". This prevents hotlinking of MPEG's and images at least.

SR 10-01-2002 05:14 PM
hotlinkers are one big pain in the ass
If I ever get my hands on one of them they won't touch a keyboard again.
One day I had about 50mbit of hotlinking a whole day long.
One thing that took this down alot is something simple but it helped me alot....
For every series of galleries I had it like...
www.domain.com/movies001/movies/
www.domain.com/movies002/movies/
www.domain.com/movies003/movies/
www.domain.com/movies004/movies/

What the fuckers did was just put up gallery 001 up to lets say gallery 100
so they had like 500 movies hotlinked at once......
so from now on I name the /movies/ part different per gallery serrie so it's not that easy for them to roll em up

A friend of me is working with something that will set session ID's.
We'll test it soon and if it works out I'll post it
I tested the cookie script and it works but like lane said they can just iframe your site plus alot of tgp webmasters don't like it since quite some ppl have cookies disabled with IE6

<IMX> 11-03-2002 03:19 PM
Anyone testing a solution for this problem?
:(

m0rph3us 11-03-2002 03:32 PM
Yes there are solutions out there.. just gotta know where to looks and yes, it does work with .htaccess.

x3m 11-04-2002 05:48 AM
So, has anyone found the solution other than renaming files?

LBBV 11-04-2002 06:30 AM
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...61#post1010461

MichaelH 11-04-2002 07:32 AM
There's actually a complex solution against hotlinking. But it's bound to the hosting solution i'm using as a customer for more than 4 months now, since they custom programmed it for me and only use it on their own hosting facility.

Contact me on icq : 146920758 for more info.

Michael

asmdude2001 11-04-2002 09:19 AM
I heard Like Whoa has the same policy, they have a very advanced movie protection script that works 2 different ways depending on your surfers. There is protection enabled via Cookies, and there is another variation of that script. It securely serves movies in all ways. Left Click, Right Click, and Save Target As. From what I know they only offer it to their hosting customers but get in touch with them to find out more.

http://hosting.likewhoa.com

Quote:
Originally posted by MichaelH
There's actually a complex solution against hotlinking. But it's bound to the hosting solution
Michael


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