kai-tracid

After seeing the movie: Fear and Loathing in las vegas, I am very curious about the 70's drug:Mescaline. Anyone tried it and how was the trip>? Peace out, Kai

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Nope, haven't tried.. but the movie "Fear and lothing in las vegas" is superb! I've seen it a dozen times.

Excellent!

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payrollpete

That is the ultimate movie (Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas)

I like the part where he is tripping on LSD and he goes into the hotel to sign in and all he sees is weird shit hahaha...

I have never tried that mesculine, never heard of anyone selling it (probably back in the 70's), ask KMAN! Haha

DarkJedi

duuude masclaline rocks ! - i never tried it but the stories are fucking awesome ! they buy San pedro cactus and eat it. wooHoo !

Also Salvia D. is cool , tried it myself !

ElvisManson

Have tried it....would never do it again......Totally blanked out for about 16 hrs.

i heard stories about the shit I did that night for weeks.

TheFLY

There are some books by Carlos Costeneda -- not sure of the exact spelling of the last name -- learn about Mescalito from Don Juan, an wise old Mexican indian ;) The books are supposedly in Spanish and English... Probably you will only find these books in your university library... Also there's a short story by Aldus Huxley -- Doors of Perception...

I've never tried it -- but I hope to try it at least once before I die so I can meet God while I'm still alive ;)

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ElvisManson

I thought that the Carlos Casteneda books talked about Peyote?

TheFLY

I'm curious -- did you experience anything during those 16 hours?

If I ever tried it -- I think I'd want to be far away from civilization -- outdoors... I hear there may be a lot of screaming, running around naked, pissing, etc... hehe ;)

CKA3KA

i tryed some like this - The Real Crazy House!

ElvisManson

It was horrible...From what i have been told....

It was new Years eve of 86 or 87.

My idiot roomate dragged me out to the Yonge Street strip which was of course rammed with people.

The only thing i remember is "flashing" into consiousness for about 10 seconds..... I was standing at my stove with all 4 burners going....a plate of raw eggs cracked and sitting on one of the elements...i had on 2 pairs of shorts, 2 shirts, one sock and obe shoe. I came to enough to think to my self "WTF is going on" and then i woke up about 8 hrs later thinking I had missed the whole night.

Mind you doing 2.5 grams of it at one time was probably not such a good idea.

TheFLY

Pretty much the same thing, right?

"Peyote is a small, spineless cactus, Lophophora williamsii, whose principal
active ingredient is the hallucinogen mescaline. From earliest recorded time, peyote has
been used by natives in northern Mexico and the southwestern United States as a part of
traditional religious rites.
The top of the cactus above ground--also referred to as the crown--consists of
disc-shaped buttons that are cut from the roots and dried. These buttons are generally
chewed or soaked in water to produce an intoxicating liquid. The hallucinogenic dose for
mescaline is about 0.3 to 0.5 grams (equivalent to about 5 grams of dried peyote) and
lasts about 12 hours. While peyote produced rich visual hallucinations which were
important to the native peyote cults, the full spectrum of effects served as a chemically
induced model of mental illness. Mescaline can be extracted from peyote or produced
synthetically."

baddog

Yeah, used to do it as often as LSD. For the record, mescal, the cacti that agave comes from, is what tequila is made from. Mescaline is just more pure.

Many high priests of cultures in Mexico, and South America, include mescaline as part of their rituals in helping one find their inner self.

Personally, I just took it because it was so much fun. One must remember though, that reality is for people that can not handle drugs, and not everyone can handle drugs.

baddog

as far as peyote goes, my hat is off to anyone that can choke those fuckers down. I have tried eating them, making tea with them, including them in a damn omelette. but no matter what, the high was not worth how gross those things taste. Plus you have the hassle of removing the strychnine so you do not poison yourself.

Peyote makes mushrooms seem like a gourmet meal.

kai-tracid

Sounds very good I think I'll head for Amsterdam next week and get myself some mescaline. One question, what does it look like? Can you get it in Pills?Is it Fluid?

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joe_blob

We used to shred them in a Foley Food Mill, and dry it in the sun. Then you can make an omlet or just eat some plain.
P.S. Plan on being away from earth for about 16 hours!

E-van

Ever heard of a place called Real de 14 in San Luis Potosi, Mexico? or huatley (which is really close)?

thats where you go and pick your own Peyotes...


Aldous Huxley's Doors of Perception, wasn't after that one that the Doors name came from?...

Yeah, you'll have a cool time, don't ask me how I know...

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baddog

well, I am sure someone has put it in tablet form, but we used to get it as a capsule, which had the powder inside. that way you can line it up and snort it if you want to share a hit.

It looks a lot like salt and pepper heroin.

Mike Semen

Castanada's books have been pretty much discredited, and it seems to be widely held that he made most of that shit up. The first few books are based on fact, however, with the use of Peyote, jimson weed and the actual shaman's practices being at least based on reality.

If you read the later books, "The Art of Dreaming," for example, its obvious that he's just way into the realms of either fiction or lunacy. They're all a good read, though.

I also read an article by him going off on some mad tangent about the "floaters" - those dead cells in your eyes you see on clear days - being a race from another dimension which parasitically feeds off our energy (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

As for Mescaline, never did it. Mushrooms and acid pretty much did for me before I could ever get my hands on any.

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Bill8

2 and a half grams of mescaline is about 5 times a good strong dose of 500 milligrams, and is not far away from a potentially toxic dose.

Mescaline is not bad, beautiful geometric visuals that take over the field of view even more so than other psychedelics. It's a shame it's so hard to find anymore. It's a phenylethyamine, like mdma, and has some similarities, sort've like a cross between mdma and lsd.

Bill8

Pure mescaline will look like short 2-4mm cyrstals, somewhat needlelike, like miniature quartz crystals, white to clear. It's light, so a strong dose of 500 milligrams will form a pile that will almost cover a quarter. It will need a large gelatin capsule to hold it all, a horse pill. Try 250-300 milligrams first.

Plant extracts are typically a dirty looking powder, pure cyrstals can't form. Sometimes plant extracts come as bottles of very nasty tasting green or brown syrups. Plant extracts aren't as nice as chemically pure cyrstals.

Be prepared for some episodes of nausea as it comes on. This passes within about a half hour, and the rest is pretty pleasant. lasts about 6-7 hours, and ends more easily and sharply than lsd. Be rested when you take it, or the comedown will be groggy and unpleasent.

The casteneda books are mostly fiction, and the drug reports aren't that accurate.

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Dude when you tried Salvia did you feel a distinct feeling like a circular force was running through you..like you where standing in a tornado? Or did you laugh uncontrollably till you where scared?


As far as mescaline goes...we used to get it in little barrel shaped pills...like baby tylenol.

Bill8 or Dark Jedi...you guys ever had any experience with Harmaline?

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Aldus Huxley book rocks. You might get lucky and even find some online form of it.

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pihkal is good too...

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Bill8

All, and I do mean all, of the "little barrels" that were called mescaline were actually lsd in "microdot" form. Chocalate chip mescaline was what they used to call it around here. Real mescaline, like I said, is light and bulky, it doesn't compress much, even powdered and pressed into pills it forms a pill about 1/4 inch thick and 5/8's to 3/4s of an inch across.

If it was small, it wasn't mescaline.

I've done small amounts of harmaline, both chemically pure and plant extract. I've always wanted to work with it more, it's supposed to be especially interesting mixed with other psychedelics. It was called "telepathine" by some south american researchers for it's supposed ability to promote telepathy.

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Bill8,

Yeah harmaline makes up one half of what's called the "Force and the Light". DiMetylTryptamine being the other half. I think its a modern day twist on the ayahuasca method. Harmaline by itself won't do much but when taken in conjunction with most anyother substance it can produce EXTREMELY PROFOUND/Scary/Dangerous results... It truly is an amazing extraction.

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I used to take mescaline quite a bit, in the early 90's. It was going around pretty heavily in Nashville. One night I took a bunch and just walked around downtown Nashville all night with some friends... another night I walked around downtown by myself. It's wierd... it's mostly just like LSD (you can get a little tense, you peak about the same, etc), but there's something strange about it. There's really no way to describe it to a person who hasn't taken it.

As far as blacking out goes, that sounds like you took something other than mescaline.

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never actually done mescaline, but i've had many positive expieriences with many different varieties of mushrooms. and if you liked fear and loathing you should get 'where the buffalo roam' it's like the sequel, but it was written and filmed in the 1970's and starred bill murray as hunter thompson. it's some good shit.

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julia

there is tons of mescaline in Montreal... I heard it was a pretty bad drug but I never tried! My friends did it a lot and they used to mix it with beer and drink it! But once I saw what they were doing after I didn't want to try it! LOL

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fuck mescaline, cat tranquilizer is where its at.

TheFLY

Wow... it was hard to believe my friend when he told me about "telepathine" -- but he swore he tried it with a small group of people and they were able to jump into each other's minds together... and afterwards played back and forth for a while with his girlfriend... sounds like a bunch of horseshit, but I'm pretty damn curious... supposedly the government was doing research w/ this drug through a university -- my friend's friend was some kind of researcher on this drug and saved a little bit after the research ended for his close friends to try...

tree

those books are awsome...if you have an open mind they are great to read i hate books and i read them all. pyote and psilocibin arn't really drugs but more of a learning experiance and a time to reflect. if you have a strong will and mind it can be the most powerful experiance of your life

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Harmaline or "Telepathine" by itself will do nothing...it is a precursor that allows other chemicals to react differently than normal in your brain. I think its along the lines of a MonoAmineOxidase Inhibitor.

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bauhaus

Being from canada.....mushrooms are much more available then mescaline....

first off I am truly amazed at how much drug knowledge has just been typed into this board....We use to experiment a lot but in a calculated way (as quite a few of you have described)

When you do drugs..especially realitly altering ones it is important to know doses and have friends that you trust.

That movie fear and loathing in las vegas....is very close to what we end up doing in Vegas...except for the sewage...and I am damn well not lying..I am sure I have bumped into people on this board at shows when I am done business for the week!!! Last Jan. in Vegas I woke up Monday at 8am and went to sleep Wed 11:30pm....but we had a game plan so we recouped nicely.

Mushrooms when used for extended periods of time (as well with LSD I have done over 250 hits over 1-2 years) like for 4-5 days...can definitely give you the power to see into each others thoughts...on several occasions when eating mushrooms (not party doses mind you like 10+ grams at a time) and for extended periods of time...the phenominon of talking without talking occured with a few of my close friends...were we would simply nod and laugh and communicate without talking....sounds like a bunch of drugged out hippies....but the thing is the conversations would lead to something like: where is that movie or where is the lantern (camping) and someone in the room would get up to get it, or get up to make a call...and later someone would bring up a conversation we had...but people would confirm we weren't talking and seemed totally incapable of talking....coincidence? maybe? but after reading a lot of books and having quite a network of friends that really enjoyed structured trips (with goals and quotas for new max amounts taken etc) we were always surprised at how far you could take things....... Am thinking about moving to Mexico for part of the year each year...and I can tell you that peyote is definitely on my mind.....

This is definitely a thread I can add to

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kai-tracid

For those who are interested, I can post a link of a dutch smartshop where you can buy mescaline, mushrooms and weed online. Just let me know and I'll post the url. I don't know if they take international orders though you can at least ask
peace out, kai

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i don't know if it will come through the customs though

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As well another mushroom tale...after reading Terence McKenna for 3 months I decided to start doing mega doses.....as well I was reading books on Consensus Reality and the historical views on it.

I had a drum party at my house and we had over 30 people drumming on all sorts of different things....there was 200 hits in a bowl and 1/2 pound of mushrooms for people to grab as needed....I of course was on a mission 12 grams of shrooms at once (and damn good ones, fresh from BC)...after drumming for 45 minutes I began to think about consensus reality and what it meant to me.....


A brief rundown for the people not in the know

What controls what you see is another obstacle to changing your conframes (your interpretation of what you see and experience) and being empowered. It is a culturally determined, common or shared conframe, called "consensus reality".

Consensus reality occurs when others agree with our dominant conframes and we all forget that we're only dealing with our habitual interpretations and not reality itself. Even if others share our conframes and agree with our interpretations, that still doesn't make them real. It merely means that we're all sharing the same illusion.
don't read this on mushrooms...lol

So when thinking about this concept I visualized the dripping water from the Dune movie.....and after a few minutes I had a funny feeling that the vision was real...I mean what made the vision not real? was it the fact that I could open my eyes and that would be it? or was it the fact that it was not bound by consensus reality....and in turn could it be my reality if push came to shove....???

Funky shit....but what most teachings say is that once consensus reality is unmasked and realized for it truths (nothing more then mass perception)..you will be free to develop beyond the physical realms of our present life. (very buddist as well)

So after a few more hours of the dripping water....(note while this was happening my friends had already called the ambulance because I had stopped breathing, (by choice mind you??) and had turned several shades of purple by now)

I decided that physical reality was not for me and made the decision to evolve??? I made a concious act to stop breathing....somewhere after that I started to miss my friends and family and had a series of flashbacks of the good times in my life.....as well the void placed before me seemed too dark and too unknown!!!!

So voila back of the ambulance opened my eyes and was totally ok...not high nothing....doctors got freaked out and let me go home 20 min later. To this day the whole experience is clear as day to me...and I refuse to believe that something didn't happen...

Fucked up? maybe?

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Tim,

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Please???

wired1

Where the buffalo roam was a great movie, I saw it once a long time ago, I am going to have to order it, its a keeper...

I never did mescaline, but did tons of shrooms and LSD back in the day. Actually, they are the two drugs I really miss...

CRAB

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(btw, can shrooms go thru customs ?)