There is major shit happening today no one is talking about it

[tony286]

I had a project to do today , just got home from the office.Read about major shit happening : the government starts appealing Rob Black today and that new 2257 law that included Hollywood , had a big change they are taking hollywood out because they are legitimate entertainment they stated. Where is the FSC on this shit? I guess this really is becoming a big surfer board very sad.

[BlackCrayon]

who defines what legit entertainment is? i'd say anything within the law is which would include porn. and i agree, the board wasn't this bad even a year ago or 6 months ago as far as i can remember.

[Shoehorn!]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

who defines what legit entertainment is? i'd say anything within the law is which would include porn. and i agree, the board wasn't this bad even a year ago or 6 months ago as far as i can remember.

Someone and I were discussing that earlier today.

[tony286]

Maybe we should start a letter writing campaign to this congressman, explaining we are legimate.

[Expo_Vids]

Originally Posted by tony404

I had a project to do today , just got home from the office.Read about major shit happening : the government starts appealing Rob Black today and that new 2257 law that included Hollywood , had a big change they are taking hollywood out because they are legitimate entertainment they stated. Where is the FSC on this shit? I guess this really is becoming a big surfer board very sad.

Um, that info usually costs me $300 an hour to find out

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Do ya have any links to this stuff?

[babz4u]

Tony

I think I told you to go F yourself once but you are absolutely right on this. The latest is that the congressmen have backed off on the movie biz, I do not think that this is good news.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by babz4u

Tony

I think I told you to go F yourself once but you are absolutely right on this. The latest is that the congressmen have backed off on the movie biz, I do not think that this is good news.

Tony404 caN give two fucks who you are or what ya called him

GFY.

[adultchica]

The movie biz is big money and big money always has lots of lobbyists. We have no lobbyists, as far as what I know. Maybe 1 I heard.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well I like to think most of us are in the business of legitamate entertainment.

Hang the pedo's and give them what they derserve. PAIN in a cold cell.

I am not to concerned about Extreme Associates.
They will still walk clean from this.

[dcortez]

You're not really surprised are you?

There was no way that Hollywood would get the same treatment the adult biz has been, much in the same way that the largest search engines can get away with, what would otherwise be considered, blatent copyright violations (not to mention exemption from 2257 because, it would be too hard for them to manage what they publish in such a way).

As I see it, the original folding in of Hollywood was more a bargaining and PR tactic - the question is: what concessions have been negotiated to exempt Hollywood and search engines from being accountable and under fire as we have been?

How about:

1) Lay off the anti-Iraq war media focus? It's already a big violation to publish photos of the (American) casualties - after all we wouldn't want people to start forming opinions based on factual accounts.

2) Let's keep the public pressure on the pedos (aka *anyone* in the adult biz and private couples who enjoy videotaping their carnal adventures who is not 'Hollywood'). Have you seen some of the latest TV offerings from 'hollywood' lately? I started watching the first 5 minutes of 'Wanted' last night and I had to shut it off because it wreaked of the DOJ BS machinery. The episode was devoted to some hunt after a 'pornographer' and in their usual (John Walshesque) style of brutally badmouthing 'the bad guys', they characterized the adult biz as consisting *mostly* of white slave traders who make millions through exploitation of the young and don't pay any taxes.

The lines were straight out of recent DOJ lip service related to 2257.

The show is so blatently stacked with bias, which in itself is not an issue (some could say the same about adult sexuality programs), but it's how it spews misinformation about the adult biz which makes it so offensive to anyone with half (or more) of a brain.

3) With Fatherland, umm, Homeland Security, the veil of secrecy is becoming larger each month and tons of stuff is getting swept under it with totally immunity from public consderation/scrutiny. Next time, before you install an toolbar, index your workstation, do a search, send an email, or check out some satellite photos (all so readily available for your convenience by popular SEs), you may want to reread the TOS.

You don't have to look far to see where this is getting out of hand fast. In the Pacific Northwest, there have been incidents of regular people (citizens) literally getting arrested and taken to the cop shop for taking photos of bridges and bus stations (nothing top secret - just ordinary outdoor stuff by caucasians doing personal photos).

In the meantime, Hollywood gets to keep making billions by making softcore deviant entertainment where the storylines commonly include (kids being abducted, abused, adult prison rape, extreme violence against women, street girls being exploited by their pimps, and a never ending variation on good old fashioned slaughtering of human beings) -- all packaged as entertainment and oriented to making money.

When a 'hollywood' production involves a story about a pedo and tracks him through his exploits step by step with every victim accounted for through intensly implicit accounts - is this not making money from the exploitation of minors? Their moral high ground is that they package the show in a way which underlines good over evil. And they have been getting away with it for decades.

I agree that we need lobby groups to stand up for our industry, but I don't believe we will ever have that. You just have to read the 'discussions' on boards like this to see that the ingredients required for an effective lobby, just aren't here.

It only get's worse from here.

-Dino

[ffmihai]

i am legit!

[Expo_Vids]

Originally Posted by dcortez

You're not really surprised are you?

There was no way that Hollywood would get the same treatment the adult biz has been, much in the same way that the largest search engines can get away with, what would otherwise be considered, blatent copyright violations (not to mention exemption from 2257 because, it would be too hard for them to manage what they publish in such a way).

As I see it, the original folding in of Hollywood was more a bargaining and PR tactic - the question is: what concessions have been negotiated to exempt Hollywood and search engines from being accountable and under fire as we have been?

How about:

1) Lay off the anti-Iraq war media focus? It's already a big violation to publish photos of the (American) casualties - after all we wouldn't want people to start forming opinions based on factual accounts.

2) Let's keep the public pressure on the pedos (aka *anyone* in the adult biz and private couples who enjoy videotaping their carnal adventures who is not 'Hollywood'). Have you seen some of the latest TV offerings from 'hollywood' lately? I started watching the first 5 minutes of 'Wanted' last night and I had to shut it off because it wreaked of the DOJ BS machinery. The episode was devoted to some hunt after a 'pornographer' and in their usual (John Walshesque) style of brutally badmouthing 'the bad guys', they characterized the adult biz as consisting *mostly* of white slave traders who make millions through exploitation of the young and don't pay any taxes.

The lines were straight out of recent DOJ lip service related to 2257.

The show is so blatently stacked with bias, which in itself is not an issue (some could say the same about adult sexuality programs), but it's how it spews misinformation about the adult biz which makes it so offensive to anyone with half (or more) of a brain.

3) With Fatherland, umm, Homeland Security, the veil of secrecy is becoming larger each month and tons of stuff is getting swept under it with totally immunity from public consderation/scrutiny. Next time, before you install an toolbar, index your workstation, do a search, send an email, or check out some satellite photos (all so readily available for your convenience by popular SEs), you may want to reread the TOS.

You don't have to look far to see where this is getting out of hand fast. In the Pacific Northwest, there have been incidents of regular people (citizens) literally getting arrested and taken to the cop shop for taking photos of bridges and bus stations (nothing top secret - just ordinary outdoor stuff by caucasians doing personal photos).

In the meantime, Hollywood gets to keep making billions by making softcore deviant entertainment where the storylines commonly include (kids being abducted, abused, adult prison rape, extreme violence against women, street girls being exploited by their pimps, and a never ending variation on good old fashioned slaughtering of human beings) -- all packaged as entertainment and oriented to making money.

When a 'hollywood' production involves a story about a pedo and tracks him through his exploits step by step with every victim accounted for through intensly implicit accounts - is this not making money from the exploitation of minors? Their moral high ground is that they package the show in a way which underlines good over evil. And they have been getting away with it for decades.

I agree that we need lobby groups to stand up for our industry, but I don't believe we will ever have that. You just have to read the 'discussions' on boards like this to see that the ingredients required for an effective lobby, just aren't here.

It only get's worse from here.

-Dino

Too many words..................j/k good post

[BlackCrayon]

if someone would start a lobby group i'd imagine some programs would dump some good money on it. if this biz was more organized it would of been done long ago.