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I run chat sites www.asiancammodels.com being one. I use Frontkick/Sidekick from nearly there. Admin panel is fine, we add anything simply we dont have. The plus with dealing with Nearly there is its an annual license fee so its a low entry cost compared to many and once you are up and running you can then move to a different set up if you so decide. Nearlythere with annual license fee have income and an interest in ongoing support and keeping your business which a one of license fee may not do.
I like Firecracker and it has been around for a while and its used by others but at $25,000 I dont like it that much at the moment. I looked at a Flash system this week but its video quality is about 65% what I am currently getting and any sharp movements causes pixel problems. It may be suitable for a video conference and possibly a dating site. But a sex site....nope! I dont know the software or the gentlemen having a disagreement but will look at their software as I am looking for software suited to a dating site. Anyone wanting to get into chat or buy expensive software should spend a lot of time looking before leaping. Firecracker has been around for a while but see how many sites you can find with 20+ girls on at a time. See how many chat sites you can find with no girls. Chat sites are tough work as the members and models are live so you double your hassles with people to deal with and then a lot of models dont have english as a first language so misunderstandings happen. If you are starting out you need to sell models the idea to run split cam so they make money elsewhere and give you a start. They wont stay without members....members wont stay without girls. None will stay and pay if your video quality sucks .... and a lot of software it does so make sure you buy quality. If anyone has genuine questions they can email me at [email protected] and I will help if I can. ....... and no, I dont have an interest in nearlythere and I am also looking for extra software....just price and quality is hard to find. |
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This is pretty sad situation.... but obviously he didn't have the maturity to enter in such a deal. Anyway, I am no lawyer, and you can quote me on that ... :1orglaugh But, by cancelling his "services", you sort of shot yourself in the foot ... You "repossed " your software and could have sold it to another party, reducing your lost .... That lost you could have tried to recoup from Ray. Just think of a car payment. They take the car, sell it, deduct the proceed from the loan and go after you for the amount remaining. :2 cents: Ray, collection agencies are loosers.... and your only worry is if you receive a court procedure ( not a lawyers letter, that is bs also). Would be nicer if both would clean the table and close the subject. |
I would like to clear it up, it was cleared. Until i posted in this thread, made my comment. He went with another credit agency, and i received the letter out of nowhere. I was shocked! Not only that, he even sold my babesoncams.com domain, without even telling me. Because i forgot my password.
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See if there was NO written contract it's going to be real tough for the CA "collection agency" to collect. They can try of course but any negs they put on his CB, he can dispute and they can't verify as there is no paperwork, etc. I bet money Mark has already violated the fcra and all this claimant has to do is get counsel. |
Time to close this.
Ray,
We did not own your domain name to begin with, and it was not sold to another company. What probably happened is that you let the domain name expire, and someone else purchase the domain name. And, (I'm sorry, I forget who it was that posted this comment), but you are probably right. Our chances of collecting the debt from Ray is low at best, but I would be doing my own company a disservice if we did not at least try. Ray, like I said I'm sorry that we can no longer work with you. This will be my last post on the subject which has unfortunately become a flame war of its own. I'm sorry I let this thread devolve into what it has. I kindly suggest that you drop this subject as well, and let eveyone move on to exploring ideas for greater profits, greater customer retention, better websites, and more fun. Cheers Everyone! Mark Prince |
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My question to 2much is if you have all that why not just do it yourself if its so lucrative? You have it all so why sell licenses? |
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Anyways, i wish you keep getting success with your business. Take it easy! |
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Frontkick/Sidekick from Nearlythere as it is a low cost entry point OR Get a domain and cobrand with Streamray and set up studios on Streamray so you make some money, get traffic sorted and learn...it isnt easy. Then set up your own software from (up to you) and run split cam on your studios so your studio business makes money on Streamray while your site gets known. I started off in studios supplying girls to a site called jedecool....now gone. Made me appreciate all aspects of the business. Aslo a lot easier to fund expansion from income rather than from savings. |
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One of the facets of live video chat we choose to emphasize is the interactive, human aspect of the thing. We get chat hostesses who don't hide their faces, who do use their voice, who don't "remind" the surfer that he should take them to VIP chat every 6.5 seconds, and so on. Rather than take a marketer's approach and build a system that features co-branded affiliate plug-ins, we wanted to sell our platform as a solution for independent operators who would use the technology to make money and feature our technology for other potential takers. That's what happened with LiveCamNetwork.com - it became our best selling point, our best advertising. People really don't realize how good, how well we've tweaked this technology, until they drop in on Alexxia, Melissa, or Teena and see for themselves the LiveCamNetwork video and audio stream. I won't reveal any plans for the future just yet, suffice it to say that as our Little Site That Good and parent company grow and become more talked about, we obviously would not leave the other aspects of online marketing out of our strategy. We're just taking a less obvious route ;) Greg Jones |
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25 people trying to sell their software 25 people wrongly thinking that software is the easy part. the biggest issue you will have to deal with is fraud. MC is cracking down and enforcing 1%. Visa hates you. the second is traffic. the third is the overhead you will be faced with. software is the easy part. nice software, shitty software, java, flash --- whatever... it doesn't matter. software is the easy part. the easiest. $10,000 for software is nothing compared to the costs and problems you are going to face at startup... and there is a reason that few sites survive more than a few months. everyone thinks they have a better idea. everyone thinks they have traffic.. everyone thinks they have girls.. everyone thinks they have a plan girls etc etc. thinking software matters in the sucess of a cam site is like thinking that if you had the right TGP script, you could build the next worldsex.com or thehun.net. |
So let me get this straight.
Guy buys site...etc Guy (Chaldoray) does not pay his bills Guy (Chaldoray) looks like he is in this for fun and cant run a biz. Guy (Chaldoray) bitches at a company that stops supporting him. Guy (Chaldoray) tries to justify on the board why he should not pay. Guy (Chaldoray) is upset about debt collection. Chaldoray brought this garbage thread to the board 2much have been as profesional as they can in dealing with him..... you make up your own mind . I dont have a biz relationship with 2much but they are as solid as they come. I cant believe they even took the time to try to help some kid with no cash. I guess they too have learned a lesson here. At the end of the day you are lucky you owe someone who uses lawyers and not the alternative. |
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My point is if it was as simple as it says on the software sales sites (ALL of them and not just 2Much) then why sell it, just do it yourself. If anyone reading this....2much or whoever has software that 1/. Has a quality Admin set up 2/. multiple domain ok 3/.2 way video 4/. quality product 5/. allows me some degree of control....if I am paying I am not hands off and I want to control my business contact me, from what I see here 2much is way above all else...just there are some concerns....but I am a serious buyer who cant find anything to buy |
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I hear what you say but many choose to franchise. Why doesn't Mcdonalds not make all meals instead of selling a franchise, or Tim Hortons (Starbucks if you are in the U.S.) There is money in the sales and there is money in the product, it just depends on what you do with it. |
A few replies to a few people
Pleasurepays:
You are absolutely right. Software and a website acount for only a small percentage of what you need to do. You need to market like crazy, and then service your customers like crazy afterwards to make sure they are happy and come back for more. Anytime a customer calls us and asks about our system, we always let them know about what other expenses are involved, and what kind of commitment they have to make. Generally, if they aren't prepared to treat it like a real business, then they are doomed to fail. JimmiDean: Thank you for your support! 2-Way Video: Unfortunately, LiveCamNetwork does not support 2-way video at this time. We had started to include it into version 2.0 but have decided against it for several reasons. I am sure there are other ways to have 2-way video though. FLASH has a pretty easy way to do it. You may want to check out Macromedia.com for info on their video system. I seem to recall an adult website that had 2-way video but I can't remember the name. If anyone reading this knows of one, please post it here. Cheers!! Mark Prince http://www.2much.net |
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Chat and other sites are run from wherever and I dont see why 100 cant be run from NY one week and Paris the next. I dont see the franchise argument at all. |
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Technical support and niche-specific advice/consultation are important to us and for our new clients, as well as established and/or more experienced webmasters and operators - because you might know the world about marketing a TGP, but a live cam site is another world entirely. The other thing you bring up is fraud - well, that CAN be an issue. It depends how you deal with your processing company and how you deal with it yourself - as an independant or as an a solution provider like 2much. We work to verify all transactions across our system which are flagged as "suspicious" and usually have a human monitoring the events in real-time to verify, allow or not the transaction. We call it AHMAD and it works just fine. |
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