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Old 07-12-2005, 07:16 PM   #1
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Who promotes Black Vagina Finder??

And makes more than $100 a week with it... i have some ebony traffic and his looks VERY amateurish, I am not interested in any other program so please no spam.

Just want to know before I sign up
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:22 PM   #2
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not sure, but if you have pure ebony traffic you should test it out.


i have interracial traffic right now.
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:23 PM   #3
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not sure, but if you have pure ebony traffic you should test it out.


i have interracial traffic right now.
i'd like to see some numbers before hand
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:27 PM   #4
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i'd like to see some numbers before hand
maybe ask TDF, i know he has ebony traffic

not sure if he promotes it
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:28 PM   #5
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i don't know about his numbers because i run a tgp, but BVF - in my opinion - is one of the most intelligent webmasters in this whole damn industry.

A straight up, stand up guy.
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:39 PM   #6
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i don't know about his numbers because i run a tgp, but BVF - in my opinion - is one of the most intelligent webmasters in this whole damn industry.

A straight up, stand up guy.
Oh really? Thats awsome... some of the ebony traffic is TGP, can you post your stats with his program?
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:40 PM   #7
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i don't know about his numbers because i run a tgp, but BVF - in my opinion - is one of the most intelligent webmasters in this whole damn industry.

A straight up, stand up guy.
Yup, he's called me a "cracka" on several instances. He sure is a stand up guy.
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:43 PM   #8
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:52 PM   #10
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you should try it out. if it doesn't work for you, just pull it.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:06 PM   #11
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you should try it out. if it doesn't work for you, just pull it.
Can you post some stats of your own, do you have anyone that can vouch for your program that has actually sent you sales? I'd rather not just spend money on something I'm not sure about... I'm sure you understand.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:07 PM   #12
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I have said this before....... I bet you anything his site does very well..........

I never promoted but I know..
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:13 PM   #13
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I have been tempted to join before and I don't like black women much less the crack whores he finds. Can't stop laughing at this guy, he's crazy. Would probably be worth giving a try.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:14 PM   #14
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Can you post some stats of your own, do you have anyone that can vouch for your program that has actually sent you sales? I'd rather not just spend money on something I'm not sure about... I'm sure you understand.
If you have black porn traffic, give it a try.
I'm in the black porn niche and have heard that his site can sell and that members stay.

It's like a fetish thing might not get a ton of sales, but the sales you do get could stay for years.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:14 PM   #15
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Can you post some stats of your own, do you have anyone that can vouch for your program that has actually sent you sales? I'd rather not just spend money on something I'm not sure about... I'm sure you understand.
One tgp that has had me up for awhile and is doing good is www.ebony-hoes.com . I doubt if he posts here though. Never seen him.
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Old 07-12-2005, 08:19 PM   #16
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We've been doing well for many, many years with BVF.

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Old 07-12-2005, 08:21 PM   #17
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how come Black Vagina Finder isn't in your Sponsor Stats link
http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/ in your sig?
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Dude just try the program for yourself... you're ratios aren't going to be the same as john does.
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:43 AM   #19
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how come Black Vagina Finder isn't in your Sponsor Stats link
http://www.hoes.com/sponsors/ in your sig?

Because I don't send them nearly enough traffic to make the list.
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my question is still not answered yet... its not really a tough one. i don't understand the issue.
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my question is still not answered yet... its not really a tough one. i don't understand the issue.
since you don't feel that your question has been answered, don't promote BVF.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:29 PM   #24
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whats the problem with putting links up for a day, then removing them if it doesn't do well?
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since you don't feel that your question has been answered, don't promote BVF.
your affiliate support is awesome but i am still interested in sending you some traffic if some half decent numbers get posted.
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whats the problem with putting links up for a day, then removing them if it doesn't do well?
i have to pay for it...


also... BVF if nobody sends you traffic thats fine too, just admit it and i might set up some links anyways.
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Old 07-13-2005, 04:39 PM   #29
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I think this line of thinking is very flawed. Every person is going to convert differently. But if you want to know, try it out. What someone else gets is not going to tell you what YOU will get.
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i have to pay for it...


also... BVF if nobody sends you traffic thats fine too, just admit it and i might set up some links anyways.
buying choker gallery traffic and sending it to ANY revshare program unless iys your site is foolish...send it to a free trial site.

But you're right...nobody sends me traffic...Please oh please send me some choker gallery traffic before I die oh mighty traffic master.
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buying choker gallery traffic and sending it to ANY revshare program unless iys your site is foolish...send it to a free trial site.

But you're right...nobody sends me traffic...Please oh please send me some choker gallery traffic before I die oh mighty traffic master.
who said anything about choker traffic?
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who said anything about choker traffic?
You said it right here oh mighty one in this thread right here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=100008 And I quote.

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I bought 50k worth of traffic and used this gallery:

http://www.camatopia.com/galleries/c...&temp=1&html=1

I know 50k of traffic isnt a lot, and you cant judge much from it, but either way its better then nothing.

Out of the 50k he sent me, 2540 clicked thru to from the gallery.

Out of those 2540, we generated 3 4.95 trial membership sales.

So a ratio of 1:847
Why send BOUGHT traffic to a site with 4.95 trials and you're getting paid revshare?
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You said it right here oh mighty one in this thread right here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=100008 And I quote.



Why send BOUGHT traffic to a site with 4.95 trials and you're getting paid revshare?
alright "oh mighty one" ... the date of that was 01-14-2003
... over 2 years ago?

also .. your right why would i send to a revshare getting paid only that much?

maybe because i used to OWN that site.
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alright "oh mighty one" ... the date of that was 01-14-2003
... over 2 years ago?

also .. your right why would i send to a revshare getting paid only that much?

maybe because i used to OWN that site.
Well you don't own BVF and that's a revshare so what was the REAL point of starting this thread since you never planned on signing up anyway? Because I just said that sending traffic to a revshare site that you DON'T own is foolish and you acknowledged my point by stating that you used to own that site?
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i can vouch for leon (bvf), imo he is a smart, reasonable, stand up guy that runs a good program...we had a chance to hang out in fl a few years ago
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Well you don't own BVF and that's a revshare so what was the REAL point of starting this thread since you never planned on signing up anyway?
1.) you shouldnt worry about how much im paying for the traffic, thats my problem.
2.) i never said I owned your site.
3.) you get pretty defensive over nothing.
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1.) you shouldnt worry about how much im paying for the traffic, thats my problem.
2.) i never said I owned your site.
3.) you get pretty defensive over nothing.
1. I never said I was worried about HOW MUCH you pay because it's still foolish to send bought traffic to a revshare program in my opinion...Unless you have an established site that you own that you can throw a link up on the site, then you SHOULD NOT promote blackvaginafinder or any other revshare program...PERIOD...If you're a middleman buying traffic from another middleman hoping to get paid by yet another middleman, it won't work.

I'm not defensive about anything...I'm just pointing out the major flaws in your logic and telling you not to waste your money promoting me with bought gallery traffic.
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1. I never said I was worried about HOW MUCH you pay because it's still foolish to send bought traffic to a revshare program in my opinion...Unless you have an established site that you own that you can throw a link up on the site, then you SHOULD NOT promote blackvaginafinder or any other revshare program...PERIOD...If you're a middleman buying traffic from another middleman hoping to get paid by yet another middleman, it won't work.

I'm not defensive about anything...I'm just pointing out the major flaws in your logic and telling you not to waste your money promoting me with bought gallery traffic.
lol so you are saying if you buy traffic you should never send to a revshare?
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lol so you are saying if you buy traffic you should never send to a revshare?
I have nothing against choker because I was a customer of his since he first came out...But I would NOT send bought traffic to ANY revshare program unless I own it...ESPECIALLY one with low dollar trials.

So YES...that's what I just said.
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I have nothing against choker because I was a customer of his since he first came out...But I would NOT send bought traffic to ANY revshare program unless I own it...ESPECIALLY one with low dollar trials.

So YES...that's what I just said.
you must have a fantasy about choker because no where in this thread did i say the traffic was from him.
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damn bvf, why didnt you just post some stats for the guy to get him to try you out?

and alky, isnt it easier to just send some traffic and test it out instead of waiting around on this thread? you could have had several links up for the amount of time you spent on the thread.
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damn bvf, why didnt you just post some stats for the guy to get him to try you out?

and alky, isnt it easier to just send some traffic and test it out instead of waiting around on this thread? you could have had several links up for the amount of time you spent on the thread.
I don't HAVE any stats to post...ccbill doesn't track my clicks and I don't use a script to track them so that only thing posting stats would do is show how much money I make...And alky never planned on signing up. This is why this thread continues without him doing anything or revealing anything...This was just a lame attempt at a piss match.

And Alky...since you say that you never mentioned choker, who are you buying the traffic from? Tell me that and I'll tell you if it's worth sending to me. But how much you wanna bet you won't tell me?
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Ditto.

Smart mutha fucka, and aside from me, he's one of the funniest guys I know.

For tax reasons I REFUSE to disclose any of my earnings. However, BVF does good for me, I do maybe 10 or so signups per month. But I DO NOT push him. I just have a few FHG's up on a shitty traffic TGP and I still manage to make signups with him. I only have a small ebony TGP and I have some FHG's from other companies as well. Some do better than others. some just SUCK ASS.

Ask CCbill to confirm if you want, but I do about 1:400 with BVF on shitty TGP traffic. I guarantee that if you refine that traffic you'll do well.

I would refine it as well, but I make more $$ editing video for every other webmaster out there then I do as a TGP operator. I just don't have time for it anymore.

I can honestly say I haven't touched my TGP in about a month and I still make signups with BVF.

All that said.. you still need to decide for yourself if you want to push him or not. Those of us that use him know that he IS the only guy selling what he sells. And he sells it well. This is a business just like any other, each of us operates differently, and each of us does better than others. I suck with ARS, and TopBucks, and some guys do really well. I do well with BootyILike.com and BVF, and a few others.

To each his own.

Good luck to you if you do try him out. I guarantee you it'll take more than just a day of shitty traffic though. Trust me I know all about shitty traffic. It takes more patience, but in the long run it pays off.
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:16 PM   #45
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And Alky...since you say that you never mentioned choker, who are you buying the traffic from? Tell me that and I'll tell you if it's worth sending to me. But how much you wanna bet you won't tell me?
of course i am not going to tell you... only way you would find out is if i saw something that showed how well your site actually sells, and you saw the refer logs.


but i suppose you are right... all my traffic is bought crap TGP traffic.
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since you don't feel that your question has been answered, don't promote BVF.
BVF I've really got to tip my hat to you
I know that you put time into your site and into making it the best it can be and reaching your audience and giving them what they want.

that right there is a FULL TIME JOB in itself.

But then add on the fact that you might have to hold somebody's hand (or jump thru a flaming hoop) to get them to send some traffic and make some money

thats extra stress

Looking at this thread I see why some programs are invite only
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"he's one of the funniest guys I know"
he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory terms

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist

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he's also a raging racist who refers to me and others as "cracka" and "redneck" & several other racially derogatory words

so next time you have a conversation with the man, know he's an admitted racist
Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.
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But then add on the fact that you might have to hold somebody's hand (or jump thru a flaming hoop) to get them to send some traffic and make some money

thats extra stress

Looking at this thread I see why some programs are invite only
lol asking for some numbers is asking for a lot I know... Some of my sponsors I hit them up and they have new creatives made for me in a day.

all this is called trying to bring new affiliates in, and keeping current affiliates happy.

i wasn't asking to receive water from a rock here.
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Hey redneck cracka, don't you have some medical bills to beg to be paid? And the only other racially derogatory word you might see me type is honkey....Oh, and there's peckerwood...I'm gonna start using that one.
why use any at all?
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